POLL: Ban the Burqa?

It could pose a problem couldn't it? lol.
I guess so, if you've been to a Halloween store lately...ANYTHING goes.

 

I do not think the ban would be legal, I think our Constitution would allow the kkk outfit and Burka's to be worn in public

that said, I think they also allow businesses like banks to ban them due to safety\security concerns

kinda like you can where a ski mask, but a bank doesn't have to let you in while wearing one

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Whatever turns your crank.

 

Banks are obvious, but most businesses would have a problem with any customer wearing a full head cover. Sporting events, concerts ect...

 

Not in Europe, to be more likely to identify those who reffuse to behave correctly in our societies and those who make an effort for look more like us (by wearing the same clothes as the people from the country they pretend to belong, for exemple...)

 

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Agreed. A nation wide ban on burkas wouldn't pass the constitutional smell test. However, in many venues for security reasons, such as the ones you listed; showing your face in public is must. Up here in the Wisconsin northwoods, I've never seen any, hunters, campers and hikers in a burka during the summer. I've also never seen any snow skiers in a burka. Hand gliding? Nope on that too.

 

What harm in and of itself does the Burqa cause others?

What is up with the faux poll that has two equivalent affirmative and one biased negative? An objective poll does not steer the results twords a desired outcome.

 

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Out of curiosity, since you are from France....to your knowledge, what do most people there think of burkas?

 

Yet if we put our heads together I bet we can think of many situations where the above does not hold true. The Church can run a tax free business by registering as a NPO. I can use marijuana for pain relief in Washington State but not in Idaho. One can open carry a firearm in one city but not another. A woman can legally go topless in one city but not another... etc.

 

That's correct. We need to have uniform rules, and if we can't we need to allow free choice in all states.

 

I deliberately didn't respond to the poll, but I do, in fact, believe in freedom of religion, so long as that religion does not discriminate or harm others. If women want to keep their head covered, they're perfectly allowed to, and banning it would not only discriminate against Muslims, but open the flood gates for other clothing related bans. I refuse to have the government be so meddlesome as to institute a dress code, of all the ridiculous things.

 

not sure what your saying, are your disagreeing with me about the kkk outfit or the burka being stupid and scary?

 

agree, and of course we have to abide b the constitution and the right to freedom of religion as well

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof"

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Burqa is not religiously mandated in Islam.

I don't think that turning a woman into a walking tent is compatible with democratic values. A ban on burqa is not about choices or religious freedom, is about human dignity. Those who brainwash women into becoming faceless nobodies whose social life is strictly restricted to the closest family are, in fact, discriminating and doing a lot of harm to a lot of human beings. A ban on burqa is in no way a ban on religious freedom, but on religious extremism and tribal mentality.

How do we know if the exercise is indeed free?

Lumping the ultimate symbol of the most oppressive form of discrimination against women - the burqa - together with "freedom", just doesn't seem right.

 

That's not my point. My point is that your interpretation of a burqa is extremely misinformed.

 

My mum wears a burqini at the beach because she burns at the drop off a hat.

You would restrict all of our freedom for no benefit.

 

Yes, the burqa should be banned in Western territories, as it has got absolutely nothing to do with our society and culture.

Just as Western women aren't allowed to wear bikini's in their territories.

 

1.You mistake your opinion about their religion with their experience in their religion. Muslim women in this country mostly have the same choices that any other woman has in this country. They are not tied to the furniture. If I want to know if a Muslim American woman feels subordinated, I will ask her, not you or any 'expert' you find to parrot your bigotry back to you. And then I will believe her over you and any 'expert' you find to parrot your bigotry back to you.

In other words I will not group her with a dozen others and shove them all in a box and expect them all to stay long enough for me to wrap them up and label them "victims of Muslim Men"

 

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That's right. You never had a point.

 

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Duh.

 

it's as free as the Christian kkk outfit.....

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Who the hell are you to decide what provides a woman her sense of dignity or what a burqa means to her or the modesty it provides to her. Its her dress, her values and her life. If you want to know whether it is a free choice, ask her. She is an adult not your child. To brainwash in your sense means not to agree with your superior reason and logic. That is not a clinical definition, it is the receptical for your Islamic bigotry. It is innately patronizing and condescending for you or big brother government to determine that her level of modesty is improper, that her choice in clothing must mean what you say it must mean, and that her cultural identity is less valuable than anyone elses. She is not your political tool or your victim. Ask her what she thinks, and then maybe you will leave her free to dress herself. You have to grow up and stop trying to change others to suit your personal and social vision rather than enlist state or federal government as your agents of force.

 

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Who the hell are you to say it doesn't? The burka is an insult to all women of the world. Those women to NOT wear a burka by choice, they MUST wear it as their master tells them too. Gawd, how absolutely and totally uninformed and falsely self righteous you speak.

 

While the burqa hides and isolates the woman, the burquini allows her to join activities she couldn't have participated in otherwise. It's a compromise between tradition and modern life. Burqa bad, burqini good.

A one-step-at-a-time individual approach to cultural and social problems is of course the best method to uproot them, but sometimes ineffective due to the nature and scale of those problems. Maybe you don't see it (yet) in the US, and hopefully never will.

You can't possibly ask every Muslim woman how she feels. Even though I'm against stereotyping and for individual rights and freedoms, I think that in some cases we can safely draw a line between what is acceptable in western societies and what should be seen as harmful and undesirable.

Cultural and religious customs should not be used as an excuse for anti-social behavior. Hiding women behind burqas effectively cut them off from normal social life.

Societies must shed their cultural skin once in a while, and grow a new one to be able to step forward.

 

The huge majority of people here look to be opposed to the burka. Some of them see it as a very provocative clothe who show that the person reffuse to make an effort to integrate in our society and have a very extremist view of her religion. There's others people who blame it because of the rights of women. And of course, some people worry about that because it hide the face so that if the woman commit an infraction, we can't identify her. Same, she can hide stuffs in this clothe. To add to that, I heard lots of people who find it really ridiculous and enjoy make jokes about that clothe...

I really know a very few people, here, who look to be agree with the fact some women in France clothes this way