Europeans In Exodus To Russian Facebook to Avoid Censorship

Muslim immigration into Europe is such a great thing, they throw you in jail if you speak out against it over the internet.

Just one of the end results of letting left-wing communists rule your country.

 

Indeed Russian forums are much less moderated then US forums. But do you know Russian?

Russian is my first language.

 

Many people in Russia remember what Liberals did in 1937 -- when tens of thousands of people were executed for criticizing Communism. Thus Russians value Freedom.

 

Really ? Is that possible ?

 

During J Stalin's reign, Russian criminal justice system was as harsh as US criminal justice system is now. Incarceration rate was as high. Now many people in Russia value Freedom greatly.

 

Nothing will happen. In Russia, you can talk about anything. (except a call for terrorist activity, incitement to racial hatred and the like)
Incidentally many media criticized Putin in Russia. In Russia several hundred television channels, but the state owns only one TV channel ("Russia") and Several thousand publications, but the state owns only one edition ("Russian Newspaper").
You can go to the Russian social networks and read on their own (with the help of an interpreter, if you do not know the Russian language) - you will see for yourself that Russia is the freest country in the world.
Also that no one will limit your speech in Russia (except a call for terrorist activity, incitement to racial hatred and the like) - more liberal moderators you will not find anywhere else.

 

You quote the propaganda of Russophobia. One example to you might think. Just a fact.

In "terrible" 1937 in the Gulag was 1,196,369 persons, of whom 87% were criminals. (Thieves, murderers, rapists, fraudsters, etc.). 13% - spies, terrorists, traitors, saboteurs etc.. Also in these 13% were convicted of corruption. Because corruption is considered - treason and is covered by the 58 (political) of the Criminal Code of the USSR.

Please note that the number of prisoners was in all the Soviet Union (Russia, Ukraine, Belarus, Kazakhstan and so on. All 14 republics)
Also note in 1937 after the revolution, civil war, ruin. With a lot of gangs and terrorists (especially in Central Asia)....

Now - WARNING

We look at the United States, where at the moment, in time of peace are more than 2.3 million people in prison.

How are you feeling? You fear that you will go to jail? You are afraid to talk and walk the streets? .... No! ... But why do you think that in the Soviet Union in 1937, people feel worse in terms of personal freedoms?

You think about it.

P/С:

If you read the archival documents of the Roosevelt program - "defarming", you will understand that the Gulag prisoners in USSR were milder than the conditions of the prisoners in the United States at the same time.

[video=youtube;zaEVdfdWHDc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaEVdfdWHDc[/video]

 

So do you mean that this other discussion could not be liked and commented on
in the European version of Facebook?

Or.... .would it depend on what exactly your comment was?


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400 cases of female genital mutilation recorded in the UK every month
More than 1,200 cases of female genital mutilation (FGM) have been recorded in England over the past three months despite the practice being outlawed in Britain for more than 30 years.
Between January and March there were 1,242 newly recorded cases of the practice, including 11 girls born in the United Kingdom, according to National Health Service (NHS) data released by the Health and Social Care Information Centre.

 

When you don't have any more arguments, just go with the western media flow. PUTIN PUTIN PUTIN.


School shootings, police brutality on civilians. In majority of peoples heads US comes up in mind.

 

I live in the west.

 

The USA and Russia; both just as mad as each other.

 

Terrible but true. Most of people arrested during Stalin's era were neither criminals either, and most US prisoners are people with mental disability who have been failed by the system

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In terms of Criminal Justice System, Russia had Stalin's Era, in USA the era of mass incarceration started in 1990s and will get worse.

 

I wasn't comparing penal systems

 

Back to OP.
This happens when you rely on breitbart for your international news about what's going on in other parts of the world, which, btw, is something yankees are not particular good at or well-known for.
First of all, breitbart is definitely not interested in objective journalism, it's a right-wing conservative opinion website. If people consider it a good source, fine. Not for me.
Secondly, that article claims that "Germans who are critical of Islam and mass migration are fleeing to the site VK, known as the Russian Facebook to avoid censorship of their remarks and possible raids on their homes."
The article also cites a German speaking article from the welt paper to support this claim. This claim is wrong.
Original article. German language skills needed
http://www.welt.de/politik/deutschl...=socialmedia.socialflow....socialflow_twitter

Thirdly, the funny (or better say. highly manipulative) part is that the original German article says something very different.
It reads: "Wohin sich Nazis und Islam-Hasser zum Hetzen verkriechen". (Where Nazis and Islam haters crawl to stir up hatred).
This German article is about neo nazis who got banned from facebook because of hate speech comments (see my translations below to see what kind of comments). It continues by showing several examples of neo nazi posts (these are not ordinary Germans that fear of having their freedom of speech taken away).
Some posts say:
"Die Juden haben den ,Holocaust' begangen, und dafür würde ich noch heute nicht zögern, jeden Juden aufhängen zu lassen"
The jews caused the `Holocaust` and because of that I wouldn't hesitate to hang every jew today.
Refering to the journalist Esther Schapira, the same user says:
"Gebt der Judenhure die gerechte Strafe. Allein der Drecksname von diesem primitiven Mehrzeller. Würg. Hitler wäre stolz auf uns."
Give this jewish whore the punishment she deserves. This filthy name alone, this primitive multicellular organism. Vomit. Hitler would be proud of us.

Should it be surprising that these kind of posts are banned on fb?
In a nutshell, those Germans that use this VK website and flee from fb because the German government is allegedly about to take away their freedom of speech are neo nazis, fascists and Islam haters.
Then comes along the naive yankee who doesn't have a clue and eats the bullsh** lunch that breitbart has served him/her, because he/she doesn't know any better and doesn't have foreign language skills.
I'm really not in the mood to analyze and translate each and every paragraph of that breitbart article. It's simply disgusting what they've done here and seriously scary that some people believe this utter bullsh** while being manipulated without even realizing it.

Fourthly, you can be critical of Islam in Germany. It's absolutely no problem. Yeah, you read that correctly - no problem.
But critical means critical. If I write "All Muslim scum needs to be deported to Auschwitz at once, the gas is waiting", I'll probably get into trouble, and rightly so.

Henryk M Broder is a journalist, reporter, publisher who is highly critical of Islam and has been speaking his mind for years, even decades. He's also highly critical of Merkel.
https://www.google.de/search?q=henr...firefox-b&gfe_rd=cr&ei=GKDIV_qECuOv8weNjLeIDQ
Ralph Giordano, died in 2014, was critical of Islam in his books, TV appearances, talk shows, etc.
https://www.google.de/search?q=ralp...firefox-b&gfe_rd=cr&ei=vaDIV872FeOv8weNjLeIDQ
Hamed Abdel-Samad is a Epygthian-German author, political scientist, publisher, critical of Islam and Merkel.
https://www.google.de/search?q=Hame...t=firefox-b&gfe_rd=cr&ei=rqHIV4lV46_zB42Mt4gN

I could go on with this list, but it's late at night here and I'm tired.
Try to get this through your thick skulls my dear yankee folks: you can be critical of Islam in Germany (if you don't believe me, your problem).
If you rely on US media, especially on those that have a clear political aganda, to learn something about politics in other countries, forget it. Breitbart? Forget it. Gatestone Institute? Forget it. Everything I've read so far on these websites about Germany was utter crap. If you like to be manipulated, go on and read that sh**.

However, I'm aware that the easy answers are just so easy to swallow, it's simply too tempting.

For the record:
I don't vote for Merkel, never have, never will.
p.s. @that destroyer guy who claims Russia is the freest country in the world. Get some medical help.

 

The great majority of ours is due to a mixture of drug prohibition that needs to end, globalists in charge of a nation, and a justice system that still thinks it's the greatest thing since slice bread, even though it hasn't been innovative for 250 years.

- You can't fix anything if the elite are out to bring you down. The globalists have to go 1st thing, and that goes for every problem in America.
- End the War on Drugs. Technically, an alcohol amendment dictates that anyone caught for federal drug crimes, being that there isn't an amendment, was wrongfully incarcerated. We should be thankful as a nation if we can just do away with the drug war without having to pay billions in restitution. Within 2 years, 60-75% of prisons are no longer needed.
- We must end plea bargains. One day humans will look back at the barbarism that is the plea bargain. If forced coercion is wrong, are there words for forced guilty pleas? That's exactly what a plea bargain is. There is nothing different between stacking 40 charges on someone, so they'll plead guilty to 5 of them, and retrying someone over and over again until found guilty. It is a modern form of double jeopardy. Prosecutors should have to pick the charge most likely to convict for each act for the severest punishment possible. No more charges for, "possession of drugs, trafficking of drugs, having a gun with drugs, having bullets in a gun with drugs, having 2 clips with bullets in a gun with drugs", all for one guy suspected in one act of crime. It is completely ridiculous at this point.

But in the end, comparing 2 penal systems is a fallacy. Especially in different times of history.

No one is in jail for drunk driving in Cuba. Tons are in America. Does that make Cuba better?

The reason none are in jail in Cuba is because they shoot them in the street, on site, when caught.

Something to consider.

 

I agree 100%. Plea bargains make Presumption of Innocence useless.

 

Again - 87% were criminals. (Thieves, murderers, rapists, fraudsters, etc.). 13% - spies, terrorists, traitors, saboteurs etc..

 

Yes, isn't it ironic? Nationalist flag-wavers in the west always insist they are so free, yet their own governments are spying on them, censoring their speech, and collaborating with corporate giants like Facebook and Google to censor certain strains of political thought.

Thank God for all this freedumb we have!

 

That was due to the fact that USSR was in the state of emergency and even a small theft carried a long prison term.

 

I have come across a VK profile of an American girl who describes herself as White Lives Matter’s co-founder and her profile photos contain Nazi insignia. The Russian social networking site is preferred by white nationalists for its lenient approach to posts that contain racist content in English probably due to the language barrier. The VK site is tough on racist pages in the Russian language and a Russian student was sentenced to one year of hard labour in Siberia after making a VK page to denigrate Caucasians such as Chechens, who are blacks in Russia.

 

Stalin Criminal Code of the USSR was much softer than the American. Even modern American criminal code more stringent than the Criminal Code of the USSR in 1937.

For example. The maximum term of imprisonment in the Soviet Union in 1937 was 25 years in prison. (For particularly serious crimes was - the death penalty by firing squad)
Penalties for the theft was almost symbolic. The secret theft of another's property, committed without the use of any technical means, for the first time and without collusion with others, entail imprisonment or forced public works up to three months.
Committed with the use of technical means or repeatedly, or by prior agreement with others, as well, though without these conditions committed on railway stations, docks, ships, wagons and hotels - imprisonment of up to one year.

In addition, prisoners in Stalin's Soviet Union, for his work were paid. On the territory of any of the Gulag camps existed shops for prisoners.
Even German prisoners in the USSR, for their work were paid.



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