Trump Fanned Fringe Racist Birther Nonsense But Blames Hillary!

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  1. BestViewedWithCable

    BestViewedWithCable Well-Known Member

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    says the clinton supporter...... lol

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    lol she refused to give up after obama won, and you think that didnt involve hope? lol

    get real....

    [video=youtube;aCEfA4U-GrM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCEfA4U-GrM[/video]
     
  2. garyd

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    Hard to debunk the Truth, dude the birther stuff originated as a trial balloon with the 2008 Clinton Campaign. Trump was about the last one on that band wagon and about the first one off once the relevant documentation was produced.
     
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    I don't presume to know the thoughts of others. And I most certainly don't find people who forward the sickest interpretation possible as fact as fit to have any meaningful role in our civil society.
     
  4. logical1

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    It is now a proven fact that Hillary started the birther deal in political circles. When she and her ass kisser say it was Trump it is just another lie.
     
  5. Professor Peabody

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    Sure looks to me like there are ties to Clinton's campaign in '08. She tried to get Sidney a job with the State Dept, but Obama turned her down. Makes sense if Blumenthal was one of the folks that started the "Birther Movement".
     
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    Time to tell it like it is. We KNOW the so called birther thingie started back in 2008, and it was started by Democrats. Sid Blumenthal is doing what Clinton People do, which is lie and deny. There are witnesses connecting him to this directly. Obama himself did not help matters by not producing a birth certificate much sooner. He has also kept his college transcripts from public view.

    There is anecdotal evidence enough out there, such as book bios and a Harvard Law bio directly stating Barry was born in Kenya to make this worth investigating.

    So we do know that this whole thing originated with Democrats, and that can't be disputed truthfully. There is ample smoke out there to where it can be connected to the Clinton Campaign, and it only makes sense that they would have been involved, indirectly if nothing else.

    Now as to Trump. Barry did nothing to end all this when he could have back in 2008-9. Trump picked up on it, looked into it and yes pretty much kept it alive until Obama was forced to finally release his birth certificate. Why he fought this so hard is a mystery. There was enough reasonable doubt to make this a legitimate issue, and those that are crying racism are just spoiled brats that do this whenever someone presses them or disagrees with them.

    What I believe the truth is, and this is my opinion. Obama was born in Hawaii, but during his college days claimed to be a foreign exchange student in order to gain some advantages, prestige, financial, choice of classes organizations and schools, etc. He basically lied to scam the system, and doesn't want this to be told.
     
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    Obama is finally about to leave office, and this BS comes back up?
    What miraculous timing!

    IMHO this is a smoke screen to distract public attention from Hillary's monumental mistake of insulting a large chunk of the electorate. This is classic Clinton style.

    "Look! There's a fire over there!"
     
  8. Jonsa

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    Except that Donald was the king of the birthers and promoted this conspiracy in a lame attempt to legitimize the president. He lied repeatedly to the American Public.

    He pandered to the racists and the crappy losers.

    What character he showed then, and what character he is showing now. Mussolini called he want's his expressions back.
     
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    Sorry but the article in the OP doesn't appear to have even a single link to a fact checking organization.. Are you referring to some other article?
     
  10. Right is the way

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    There you have it Obama the original birther. Can people with any amount of honest not question obama's birth status since he said he was born in Kenya? It honestly questions the ethics of people from the dem side. Why did he lie and say he was from Kenya when he was not. Did he do it to get loans illagitimatly. You would think somebody from some news outlet would be all over this. But Dems love to hang the racist label on everyone. Just like the op did.
     
  11. Hoosier8

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    Meh, the liberal narrative that really is not in sync with reality. He asked for Obama's birth certificate then when Obama finally produced it, it was never mentioned again except by the lib media. Hillary brought it up again hoping to distract from her own disasters but it backfired big time.
     
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    Hillary's campaign started the birther nonsense in 08. You have no ground to stand on. Your fake outrage isn't fooling anyone.
     
  13. ImNotOliver

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    Considering that the conservative cabal was pushing the Muslim/foreign born silliness back when Obama was first running for the Senate, long before he became a presidential candidate, and thus competitor to Clinton, I find your argument rather disingenuous. But then what else could I have expected from conservatives.

    From the outside it sounds as if you all are promoting a new lie to cover your old lie. Everyone knows what happened, You're fooling no one. While you and your kind might think that you are being cool or whatever, be aware that to everyone else you look less than honorable.
     
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    ImNotOliver Well-Known Member

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    If some of you would actually do a due diligent search you'd see that you have been being continuously fed untruths. for instance take a gander at the following article:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_Martin

    Let's put a little logic to the matter. Trump and his chumps are claiming that Hillary started the birther movement yet the best they can do is come up with a couple of nobodies on the Democratic side and can show no indication Hillary ever promoted such an idea. If one then takes a step backwards and sees that it was overwhelming those on the right by a margin of about 20,000,000 to 1 that promoted this overtly false accusation. So in order for the claims of Trump and his chumps to be true one would have to believe that a couple of Democratic operatives loosely associated with Hillary came up with an idea that all Democrats rejected and a majority of Republicans wholeheartedly embraced. That is absurd as everyone knows where conservatives get their ideas from.
     
  15. Wehrwolfen

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    You're right.... Sidney (Vicious) Blumenthal, Mark Penn, and Phillip Berg didn't start the "Birther" issue without the nod to go ahead from Hillary Rodham Clinton. It was a failed 'Hail Mary' move that certainly has lived on.
     
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    Correct.

    “Meanwhile, former McClatchy Washington Bureau Chief James Asher tweeted Friday that Blumenthal had “told me in person” that Obama was born in Kenya.

    “During the 2008 Democratic primary, Sid Blumenthal visited the Washington Bureau of McClatchy Co.,” Asher said in an email Friday to McClatchy, noting that he was at the time the investigative editor and in charge of Africa coverage.

    “During that meeting, Mr. Blumenthal and I met together in my office and he strongly urged me to investigate the exact place of President Obama’s birth, which he suggested was in Kenya. We assigned a reporter to go to Kenya, and that reporter determined that the allegation was false.” McClatchyDC, 2 Clinton supporters in ’08 reportedly shared Obama ‘birther’ story, BY DAVID GOLDSTEIN, 9/16/16.

    http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/election/article102354777.html
     
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    Take a gander here and see how once again your news source is in error, and deliberatly so.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_Martin
     
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    Martin filed suit in oct of 2008, the anti-Obama Birther movement was started in 2007 and 2008 by Hillary Clinton. Where do you think he got it from?
     
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    Democrats started this. Trump did NOT originate it. Not disputable.
     
  20. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    I give Trumps protestations of innocence on this about as much credit as an IOU he gave to a subcontractor on the Trump Taj Mahal. The man is about the most blatant liar I have yet seen in American politics. He doesn't care if people have multiple tapes and literally millions of eyewitnesses he seems to think like a little kid, that all he has to do is keep lying and eventually, it will be so.
     
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    Good to see the propaganda is working as planned.
     
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    ImNotOliver Well-Known Member

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    And the world isn't warming either is it? Good to see you are still lapping up the party line.
     
  23. Hoosier8

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    Facts are just beyond Hillary sycophants. Bet you believe everything she says.
     
  24. antibarner

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    Al Gore got rich off of sheep that believed the polar bears would all be drowned by now, and Democrats started the birther deal.
     
  25. Jonsa

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    You have a marvelously distorted definition of reality. In this digital world, one can't escape one's past regardless of how dismissive one wishes to be about it.

    http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/trump-kept-birther-beliefs-going-long-after-obama-s-birth-n649346

    Here he is on video:

    [video]https://youtu.be/Blckpwk1voQ[/video]


    How soon they forget.
     

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