Why did we naturally oppose homosexuality of 10,000,000 years?

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  1. BillRM

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    Hell that approach of double downing when challenge is working almost too well for Trump so why is it not surprising that it will be copy by others.
     
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    Belch Well-Known Member

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    It's a waste of valuable resources.
     
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    Do you have any idea how unbelievably bizarre and incoherent this is?

    Your whole post is science fiction, but this just help put the icing on the cake.

    How many times a week do you watch hardcore black porn?
     
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    Homosexuality isn't contagious, but it is unnecessary. I know, I know, you think there are plenty of people, but that's just you. We need quality hard working people. Not some guys eating up food but not providing anything of value to society.

    Anyway, it's the answer to why so many civilizations have looked down on homosexuality. Lesbians are okay because women have historically had about zero input as to their role in the tribe. Homosexual men, on the other hand, are not raising families, but consuming resources.

    unnecessary to the tribe, thus... unnecessary.
     
  5. Polydectes

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    I'm raising a family.
     
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    Thanks for posting. This is a thoughtful post on the topic whether you agree or not. I agree with the survival aspect 100%. Why? Because the earth has not always had a human population as large as now. When the population was smaller and people were divided into groups such as tribes and eventually countries it was important that there was as much reproduction as possible to ensure the survival and perpetuation of whatever tribe, country, religion, etc... there was. The disdain toward homosexuality was mainly because those who were gay would not naturally produce offspring to grow the tribe, religion, country, etc.... Now that humans are a dime a dozen there are really no good arguments against people doing their own thing even if they do not reproduce.

    This is a valid point to make because it explains alot of the disdain people have of homosexuality. Of course those who are not open minded on the topic will poo poo the idea because it is not in lock step with their own propaganda.
     
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    Well isn't every person that doesn't procreate? Who's to say gay people don't raise families?
     
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    One of our managers is gay. Makes about 90k a year. Don't know about any tribes, but he's an essential part of the company.
     
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    Then why has opposition to gay rights come almost exclusively from religions? Every argument I've heard inevitably invokes Leviticus.
     
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    I'm sure he is. I'm just talking about evolution, and how limited resources would naturally affect that. A gay man does not reproduce, so he's an evolutionary cul de sac.

    and if you want to talk about gay men being able to make babies, then he's not gay. So long as you can get it up long enough to reproduce, and then stick around to raise your children, you're not gay. If he can't do both of those things, he's useless to the tribe.
     
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    ahh... we're talking about gay men.
     
  12. BillRM

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    Silly silly statements as gay men are part of society who share a lot or most of their dna with those they are related to.

    By supporting their group they are indirectly helping their genes to go on into the future so they are not evolutionary cul de sac even without taking direct part in reproduction.

    Next having enough sex with a woman to have a child does not turn a gay man straight.
     
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    Sorry, but no. We'll have to agree to disagree.

    Anyway, the question has been answered. You don't have to like the answer for it to be correct.
     
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    Sorry but my statements are true and correct.

    footnote if having a certain percent of adults being gay was not helpful to the human tribe it would had been breed out thousands of generations ago.
     
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    Incidentally gays blame Bonobo monkeys for spreading AIDS but I don't buy that at all, because since when do bonobos hang in gay bars?
     
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    The subject is not why it hasn't been bred out, but why the hatred. You have your answer.
     
  17. BillRM

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    Why the hate? Come on now anyone who is not a carbon copy of his neighbors run the risk of being hated.

    The Jews for a thousand years, for example.

    Blacks from slavery to being abused for generations due to their skin color in the US.

    All you need to do is stand out in some way and you placed yourself at risk of being hated.
     
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    And again, this is explained by limited resources. My tribe needs that banana, so your tribe can't have it. Take it, and we're not going to be fighting over the peel.
     
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    Conservatives have been wrong on almost everything socially over the years, so I wouldn't look to them. I can agree that sexual norms play an important role in society, but like all moral things they boil down to allowing people to do what they want and expecting the same in return, respecting each other's rights and responsibilities. Thus, rape and infidelity can be seen as legitimate breeches of morality to different degrees, but whether or not somebody reproduces - not so much. In fact, some people shouldn't because it's one of those things that needs to be done as well as possible, or not at all. Raising kids really shouldn't be seen as something for everybody, because bad parents make society worse by messing up their kids. The human race is not in danger of dying out through lack of sexual reproduction. The human race still would not be in danger of that even if 100% of the population was completely gay, because we have everything from artificial insemination to IVF anyway.

    Producing offspring is certainly not the only way to contribute to society - in fact it's the last way a lot of people should contribute. If people do useful work for society, they are not a drain on society. A doctor who diagnoses the right cancer so you can get the right treatment is contributing to society whether or not she reproduces. A construction worker who helps build a quality house is helping society, not hurting it. Making kids is just a different way of contributing, though it can be a net negative if you mess it up.
     
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    You might want to read up on the theory of evolution.
     
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    Oh please do tell us what you know about "black sexual behavior." Obviously you are claiming to have a lot of experience at it.
     
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    Why do you conflate evolution with morality?
     
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    Give me a break there was little or no limit on resources in the US when we was hanging blacks from trees, and there was enough resources to transport and then killed 6 millions Jews in Germany and so on.
     
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    I think it was quite prevalent through some parts of history.
    That would be a point, only if everyone was homosexual.

    If so, it could be argued that internet porn is a bigger danger than all the previous years of homosexuality.
     
  25. Belch

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    There have always been limited resources. Now, moreso than ever. I grew up in a family with 6 kids. You know how much it costs to raise a child from that first ******* shot to waving them goodbye on their way out the door for the last time? It's over 250 grand!! My parents would have had to spend 1.5 million dollars to raise us in today's economy, when it was considerably less back in the pleistocene.

    And you say there is no limit of resources? You obviously don't have any children.
     

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