Kerry Admits US Intervention In Syria Is Illegal

Will wonders never cease, finally an admission by Kerry, albeit in a secret tape, that the US has no legal right to be in Syria... or at least that's what he said to the Syrian opposition at the UN General Assembly last week. He said the Russians have been invited in by the legitimate government.

Now comes the funny part.

"The problem is that the Russians don’t care about international law, and we do," said Kerry attempting to claim the position of moral and legal superiority despite laying out evidence directly to the contrary.​

Oh well, as Vladimir Putin once said: "I'm glad they know there is such a thing as international law".



Read more: https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20161001/1045911056/kerry-assad-syria-airstrikes-illegal.html

 

Kerry has always been a moron and I saw today he accepted defeat. And Russia warns the US that if they attack Assad directly, there will be consequences.

What a (*)(*)(*)(*)ing mess this whole thing is.

 

The mess from what I gather is the US, France and Britain's subservience to Saudi Arabia and Qatar... probably out of economic necessity. The Gulf states were determined to turn Syria into a fanatical 'Takfiri' Sunni state with strict sharia law... and they have been foiled. I say this because there are now calls from extremist Imams all over the world to attack Russia, which is probably why Kirby said there will be terrorist attacks against Russia. Moscow told all its embassies to be on alert.

 

there is no longer a legitimate government in Syria.

it ended when Assad started massacreing peaceful protesters.

 

Who knew there was some diversity on this forum.

There is a majority of white nationalists. And now we have someone who is a pro Soviet authoritarian communist.

Who cares what Putin said?

 

The mess is every single party involved, not just the west and its middle east allies. Russia, Assad, iran, they are all part of the mess too.

 

He is a wretched human being for sure. Allowed the torture and murder of children. That takes a special kind of beast. Still the legitimate government though because just for a moment imagine if Al Qaeda and other Proxied Islamists had succeeded in overthrowing Assad....Then imagine them as a reward getting a cut of the NG pipelines the Saudis wanted to build in Aleppo. That's big money. Big guns, AIR support

We have to choose and I choose one madman versus that ever happening

 

It's a mess, all right. It's a mess the U.S. should never have involved itself in. We should never have taken a side, and we should never have armed or trained anyone.

We have our own enemies. Our focus should be on them, not some internal civil war in a country that is no threat to us. Hell, civil wars happen. We had our own a while back. Syria's was none of our business, and all we've done is made it worse.

You're right. Kerry is a moron. Obama is a moron. Clinton is a moron. They're all out of touch. Everyday Americans don't want any part of Syria's internal struggles.

My two cents ...

 

It didn't take an admission from Kerry to know that.

That was Benghazi.

If you believe US propaganda.

 

Don't worry, Hillary will paint a red line in the sand in Syria and then if Hillary doesn't blink like Obama did when Putin looked him into the eyes the (*)(*)(*)(*) is really going to hit the fan big time and who ever is the next CnC will be inheriting Obama PC military and Putin knows it.

 

But these 'internal struggles' will soon be arriving near you. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...s-to-accept-at-least-110000-refugees-in-2017/

 

Would all these refugees even be refugees if the U.S. and other countries had just left Syria alone?

But we picked a side, we gave them weapons and training. So now we own it. The refugee problem is something we helped create.

This conflict was none of our business!

 

We have to put 'we' in qualifers. The average American Citizen didn't want Syria to turn into a hell hole. Blame that on our Pentagon and Obama's "Assad must go". The pure irony in Assad not being a threat, meanwhile the closest thing to a threat(Kim Jong) can continue to build weapons without regard for the US, all the meanwhile calling us imperialist!

 

We don't own (*)(*)(*)(*). Assad used chemical weapons. That is an existential threat. That was the only side to take after that.

 

I don't think North Korea is a threat either. Their theatrics are all about being left alone. However, unlike Syria, they do have the means to bite you back if you go after them.

If you seriously want to distinguish between "we" being the American people, and the actions of the US government, you need to go way beyond the Republican-Democratic political divide. In Syria, Obama was actually a reluctant player who was dragged into this mess by the coalition of domestic interest groups that have pretty much taken over control the Republican party and have deep tentacles in the Democratic party as well. The policies to destabilize Syria, to weaken Hezbollah, before the US would then go after the big enchilada, Iran, were part of a larger blue print connected to special interest groups like AIPAC (the very influential pro Israeli lobby in the US) and lobbyists connected to the "military industrial complex" (who needed a new mission after the cold war to justify the money they wanted spent on their projects and themselves). Sure, when it comes to the Republicans, there are even "foot soldiers" recruited to do their bidding in the form of Christian evangelical/Christian Zionists and the bible prophesies they are focused on. But ultimately Syria is part of a much larger mess and whatever Obama did there (which was horrible), the Republicans would have done worse.

 

There are those who blame the US for everything that goes wrong in the world no matter how shaky the connection, much like the six degrees of Kevin Bacon. BHO didn't have the nerve to enforce his BS Red Line in Syria but has decided instead to move that line to the US. This guy is only marginally brighter than the people who gave him a second term.

 

You appear to be one of those incredibly naive Americans who would believe in any nonsense served to them by the State Department. People responsible for the chemical attack in Syria are much closer to home. Much closer.

The two Hersh stories from London Review of Books are available at:

http://www.lrb.co.uk/v36/n08/seymour-m-hersh/the-red-line-and-the-rat-line

http://www.lrb.co.uk/v35/n24/seymour-m-hersh/whose-sarin

...But in recent interviews with intelligence and military officers and consultants past and present, I found intense concern, and on occasion anger, over what was repeatedly seen as the deliberate manipulation of intelligence. One high-level intelligence officer, in an email to a colleague, called the administration’s assurances of Assad’s responsibility a ‘ruse’. The attack ‘was not the result of the current regime’, he wrote. A former senior intelligence official told me that the Obama administration had altered the available information – in terms of its timing and sequence – to enable the president and his advisers to make intelligence retrieved days after the attack look as if it had been picked up and analysed in real time, as the attack was happening. The distortion, he said, reminded him of the 1964 Gulf of Tonkin incident, when the Johnson administration reversed the sequence of National Security Agency intercepts to justify one of the early bombings of North Vietnam. The same official said there was immense frustration inside the military and intelligence bureaucracy: ‘The guys are throwing their hands in the air and saying, “How can we help this guy” – Obama – “when he and his cronies in the White House make up the intelligence as they go along?”’

The complaints focus on what Washington did not have: any advance warning from the assumed source of the attack. The military intelligence community has for years produced a highly classified early morning intelligence summary, known as the Morning Report, for the secretary of defence and the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff; a copy also goes to the national security adviser and the director of national intelligence. The Morning Report includes no political or economic information, but provides a summary of important military events around the world, with all available intelligence about them. A senior intelligence consultant told me that some time after the attack he reviewed the reports for 20 August through 23 August. For two days – 20 and 21 August – there was no mention of Syria. On 22 August the lead item in the Morning Report dealt with Egypt; a subsequent item discussed an internal change in the command structure of one of the rebel groups in Syria. Nothing was noted about the use of nerve gas in Damascus that day. It was not until 23 August that the use of sarin became a dominant issue, although hundreds of photographs and videos of the massacre had gone viral within hours on YouTube, Facebook and other social media sites. At this point, the administration knew no more than the public...

According to Hersh Hillary approved sending of Libya's sarin to Syrian rebels. A fact you can check for yourself.

 

I've just posted this on another thread but it's more apposite on this one:


apropos the Syrian war; there are only two options 1) Fight the enemy, or 2) (figuratively speaking) Open the gates and let the barbarians in. There is no in between. That's what the west and the bleeding-heart liberal gobberati don't get!

 

Ah the power of neuro-linguistic programming eh? No proof, just parrott what the MSM keeps on churning out.

 

A significant part of the US military are beginning to think about the obvious discrepancy declared principles and reality. Command forces soldiers to train and support the extremists, including fighters of the Syrian al-Qaeda (Al-Nusra). At the same time US citizens still remember the tragedy that occurred on September 11 during which the terrorists killed thousands of New Yorkers. Responsibility for the offense took over al-Qaeda.



Hiding facial homemade placards, representatives of the US Army expressed their disagreement in that of them makes accomplices of terrorists. And also they fear persecution by the Nazis from the Pentagon and the White House.

I have always said that ordinary Americans - the first victim of crazy cannibals from the White House and the Pentagon. But I am glad that many ordinary Americans have not lost the ability to think independently. False Western media and false the US government could not of ordinary Americans do stupid sheep.

 

USA should forget Syria for a little while and focus on Russia. USA is looking super weak lately. Or something focus on something else - like invading Saudi Arabia.

But USA should be willing to fight Russia in Syria. It was good to have terrorists attack the Syrian army. Better would be for USA to directly attack Assad's forces and see what the Russians do. What are they going to do? Russians are all talk. All front. They won't do %$%$. If Russia makes a red line then cross it.

 

Saudi Arabia and Qatar ( toadies of the US) financed most and armed these peaceful protesters which you talking about, they were ready fighters - terrorists but not peaceful protesters. Don't watch the zombie TV.

 

''Russians will give to Assad humanitarian aid'' - as charity for Assad's army, S-400 and ''Iskander'' which allegedly belong to Assad's army will destroy all airfields of a west coalition together with planes and, the American ships unexpectedly will begin to sink. Let Americans buy pampers to begin - open aggression.

ps: In there are rumors - in Syria there is nuclear weapon!

 

I am worried that ISIS will destroy one or more Syrian cities with a broken arrow nuke. I am really concerned about it. I am also worried about Russian cities because it is only a matter of time before these terror groups that Russia have been bombing turn their attention to Russian cities.

Are you worried about terrorists attacking Russian cities? It has been keeping me up at night lately. What Kirby was saying is right. It is only a matter of time before Russian cities are attacked by Syrian terrorists.

And Russia will not openly attack USA. No matter what. The Russians are all talk.

The scary Russians and their ballet. Is Putin at the ballet right now do you think? Why do you think Russians are such total homos? Why do they like ballet so much?