Percentage of Millennials Who Believe George W. Bush Killed More People Than Stalin

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  1. Blinda Vaganto

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    http://dailysignal.com/2016/10/17/this-is-the-percentage-of-millennials-who-believe-george-w-bush-killed-more-people-than-stalin/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=tds-tw

    What? If the young population of the most powerfull country in the world thinks so, then I guess we are all doomed. Let's just sit and wait for the end of the world.
     
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    Nobody killed more people than stalin...nobody! Lol.
     
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    Nobody killed more than Mao Zeodong. Stalin is on the second place. George Bush conducted no repressions of American or any other people.
     
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    Of course they are right. Undoubtedly under the direction of George Bush it killed more people than Stalin. This is obvious to anyone who has a brain. (Of course with the exception of the Second World War. But it was the defense)
     
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    Only one that is deficient . You think Bush killed more than 20 million people ? :roflol:
     
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    there was this story about someone killing everyone but a boat load once ;)
     
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    Somewhere in the area of 260,000 people died during the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. Some of those occurred under Obama, but let's attribute them all to Bush. Soviet records show that 800,000 people were executed, 1.7 million people died in the gulags, and 390,000 people died during forced resettlement during Stalin's rule. Even if you exclude every other decision Stalin made which led to people's deaths, he was responsible for more than 11x the number of deaths George W. Bush is responsible for.
     
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    The less negative opinion of communism, or socialism perhaps comes from the fact that neither one of these economic models killed anyone. It was the authoritarian, bat (*)(*)(*)(*) sociopaths that made themselves dictators that did it. Perhaps the millennials understand this while the boomers like me were conditioned to think it was socialism or communism that created all of those murders under people like stalin?

    I think the millennials may be the generation that pulls America back from a abyss. For unlike the boomers, they have enough sense to understand a gov't by and for the people should actually represent the people. The boomers allowed this republic to become an oligarchy, ruled over by the robber barons that FDR put controls on, while Reagan and every president and congress since 1981 unleased these sociopaths upon the average American, which sent 60 percent of the wealth of the middle straight to the robber barons. The same sort of paradigm that existed before FDR cut their nut sacks off and refused to allow them to write economic policy that would hurt working people as it only benefitted the robber barons. Once these robber barons had to accept a reasonable profit, instead maxing out their own profits and wealth, we saw the creation of history's largest middle class. But now they have been unleashed, these men who have no allegiance to any nation, and their only god is money. The economic model they bought from our politicians, has not expanded our middle class, it has hurt it. Their economic model, globalization to max out their profits by slave labor and stagnating our wages, when prices rise, has not created the American dream, quite the contrary, it is killing it. Look at the millennials.

    I think we all need to get ready for what robotics will do to capitalism. It will implode it, which is ironic in a cosmic level. In order to increase profits and robber baron wealth to the absolute max, robots who earn no wage, require no insurance, will replace much of the work force. Except robots do not need nor can they buy what the human workers buys and uses. So, the elites are missing one important element in capitalism. Consumers. IN order to consume requires disposable income. But there are no jobs that pay a disposable income, or at least not many of them in that future brave new world. If 20 percent of a working population are the only ones with job which provide income, where will the income to buy what the robots make, for the other 80 percent? LOL


    I think the haters of socialism might need to get an early start on accepting it. For robotics plus capitalism destroys capitalism.
     
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    Don't panic, bro. Not only are more individuals and groups such as The Heritage Foundation stepping up to counter the "progressive" indoctrination young Americans are subjected to in our schools and media, the effort is paying off:

    And these young people will become more conservative as they grow older.

    Another thing you don't see in any of these reports is the rising popularity of libertarianism amongst young people in America:

    Believe it or not, it's possible that we may be witnessing the "progressive" high water mark in America, and the continued failure of "progressive" policies will become more and more self-evident to Millennials as they grow older. Things look bad now - and they are - and they'll get worse before they get better, but there's hope that eventually they will get better. :beer:
     
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    With the racial demographics changing, I'm less optimistic. Hispanics have voted 75% for the left-wing party for 50 years, I don't see that slowing down any time soon.
     
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    Really?...What about Cromwell?... Or Churchill? Hitler killed several million Jews in just a few years of his reign. And Churchill had killed several million Hindustani in just a few months, just one organized by the British in India famines.
    But maybe Roosevelt was an angel in the flesh? Maybe you read about "defarming" and labor camps Roosevelt? In comparison with labor camps Roosevelt, the Gulag - the resort.
    And I'm not talking about the extermination of North American Indians. Or total (one and all) the extermination Tasmanians.
    What one can say if in the 20s of the 20th century in Europe showed black people in the zoo.

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    You can also recall King Belgium - Leopold 2, that killed 10 million Africans.
    Mussolini, Franco .... Any European or American monarch or president is guilty of more deaths, than Stalin.
     
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    This is the delusion that socialists-communists labor under - that the systems they created and ran were not responsible for the epic disasters that transpired beyond the Iron and Bamboo Curtains.

    The fact is, socialism-communism and its adherents are responsible for those disasters because within the seed of socialism lies the germ of authoritarianism, which is why it invariably ends in such.

    Get real. Ludwig von Mises predicted the failure of socialism and the demise of the USSR the year the Soviet Union was born in his book Socialism: An Economic and Sociological Analysis, and since then the world has watched it fail over and over again. Socialism doesn't work because it is inconsistent with human nature and enterprise. I think socialists need to get a late start on accepting that - it's been 27 years since the fall of the Berlin Wall...

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    LMAO!!!

    One would be hard-pressed to find any European monarch, much less an American president, who was responsible for anywhere near the millions of deaths that Joseph Stalin was responsible for:

    Paul Bogdanor has an excellent library on Stalin's long infamous career as a psychopathic mass murderer that all of his fanboys, including yourself, should read:

    Left-wing Bloodbaths
    http://www.paulbogdanor.com/left.html
     
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    Many schools and most universities teach young people to hate the USA and USA traditions, while declaring moral equivalency and tolerance towards other countries and their traditions. Thus, they will curse Christians and Christianity, while raging for acceptance of the most oppressive of all current religions - Islam - as an example.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Hillary Clinton is going to make all of them look like amateurs.
     
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    How about a few million ukies during the famine, Baltics, Russians, etc, yeah really, the 5 year plans, how did they work out, yeah in the end people still starved to death, thatched roof houses, muddy roads, and coal oil lamps! Four years of f*** ups and one year of lies to cover for the f*** ups! Yeah really!
     
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    "We are aware of the importance that must be accorded to the institutions, customs, and traditions of different countries; and we do not deny that there are countries like America, England (and, if I knew your institutions better, I would add Holland), where the workers can achieve their aims by peaceful means. However true that may be, we ought to recognize that, in most of the countries on the Continent, it is force that must be the lever of our revolutions" Marx

    And force was used
     
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    But you think that Stalin killed 20 million? :roflol: :roflol:
     
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    According to the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the USSR archive data (memo from the Ministry of Interior for Khrushchev), from 1921 to 1953 it was 642 980 people executed, and 2,369,220 people imprisoned. These numbers correspond to reality.

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    Read the original. And increases your intelligence. Also note - this time in the Soviet Union were - civil war, the war with Japan in 1939, the Finnish War, the Second World War....(And therefore were spies, terrorists, traitors, etc. .... and banal bandits. With that it was necessary to fight.), the post-war devastation and hunger (and therefore high crime rate) and many other problems.
    Again. - Since 1921 ... And the question - when Stalin became head of the USSR?... Google to the rescue.

    Bush is guilty of the murder of innocent people. And not just Americans. He is responsible for the death of civilians in all countries where it started the war. Bush - a war criminal and a murderer.
     
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    Any idea how many people George Bush killed?
     
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    Hahaha. :roflol: This problem of hunger, we have repeatedly dismantled in this forum. I am too lazy to repeat the same thing for you. Look in the archive - read - think - and maybe next time you will not look ridiculous.

    Also to blame Stalin for the famine in 1933, as good as blaming Bush in a hurricane "Katrina". This natural phenomenon still that drought.
    you should also know that the Baltic states and Western Ukraine in 1933 was not part of the USSR. But why do you then accuse Stalin....Why does not Obama? Or Clinton? :roflol:

    In addition, in the United States at the same time - was also hungry. But in the Soviet Union was the increase in population, but in the US - decline. Despite the influx of immigrants from wild the countries in the United States.

    Once again - examine the issue. For example, read about "defarming". Or at least watch a short video.

    [video=youtube;zaEVdfdWHDc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaEVdfdWHDc[/video]
     
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    You write another nonsense. But I'm not surprised. You refer to the "historian", which does not have any evidence. :roflol:
    Maybe you'd better turn to the myths of ancient Greece? They believable more than myths about "the bloody Stalin".
     
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    War crimes, by definition Statute of the International Criminal Court in The Hague, it is a criminal offense.
    The list of war crimes clearly identified the Rome Statute (the Charter) of the International Criminal Court of The Hague.
    For example.
    1. Murder. This refers to the massacre of prisoners of war and civilians.
    US leaders (Bush) and the UK (Blair), guided knowingly false accusations about the presence of weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, invaded a sovereign country, which resulted in the deaths of thousands of any innocent civilians.

    The same is true of Afghanistan.

    2. Torture or inhuman treatment.
    In this context it is worth recalling the prison of Abu Ghraib, Guantanamo, secret CIA prisons in Europe, numerous arrests without charges, etc.

    3. Intentional infliction of great suffering.

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    4. Wanton destruction of cities and other human settlements.; destruction of cultural property

    That was plenty.....And so on.

    All these facts are proven. And so now judge Tony Blair in Britain.

    George W. Bush - War Criminal. Like - Clinton, Obama and other US presidents.
     
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    What's more, neither Stalin nor Mao ever claimed to be the leaders of the free world.

    To a certain extent, one could argue that acting as a ruthless dictator while never hiding it is not as appalling as claiming to have freedom, justice and world peace at heart when you are doing everything to make the world a worse place to live while ensuring that your friends at Halliburton get every piece of the action.

    By all means, nobody will claim that George Bush killed more people, however being sneaky, stupid and flipping off everyone who's trying to reason with you while you're kicking, screaming, rolling on the floor and seeing evil everywhere is most deplorable and should have been punished accordingly.
     
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    In addition, any historical personality must be considered relative to the time when there were certain events.
    For example - the great French Revolution. How much blood was that? How many innocent murders were committed? From the point of view of modern society such as Robespierre could be regarded as a mass murderer and maniac. But at that time it was the norm.
    Or many speak about "the terrible tyrant" Ivan the Terrible. Which is for the whole period of his reign (50 years), according to various historians estimated, ordered the execution of from 4 thousand to 7 thousand people.
    And at the same time, the French king Charles 9, more than 30 thousand people were killed in a single massacre of St. Bartholomew.
    Compare - 50 years or one night, 4-7 thousand people or more than 30 thousand. And who is the tyrant?

    Also about Stalin. The most slandered policies.
     

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