U.S. Tells UN Security Council: Israelis in West Bank Creating One-state Reality

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  1. SamSkwamch

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    Oh come on you're just making that up now.
     
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    LOL!!!!!

    it was indeed fired by Hamas.

    most of their rockets actually don't hit buildings or people, as they are very poor soldiers with no concept of how to properly aim a rocket.

    they would fail miserably if they ever fought a conventional war against the Jews, even if armed with the exact same weapons.

    but when they do actually hit something or kill someone, they have a big celebration with lots of falafel.
     
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    You keep just making stuff up who fired that rocket.
     
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    No one cares about one rocket or maps or what the UN thinks. I don't agree with current hawkish Israeli policies that support piece by piece destruction of Palestinian claims, I think it's well tacky. Id much prefer a mass invasion and forced exodus. I know it sounds harsh but it's quite logical. I'm sorry it doesn't meet with some left wing humanitarian ideologies but I can assure you that's what's going to happen. Probably after some other huge conflict is engaged in by 3rd parties in the region
     
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    Post like one ;)
     
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    Hamas fired the rocket.
     
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    You have no clue who fired that rocket.
     
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    I just told you, Hamas fired the rocket. They took credit for it.

    It was one of their few victories, as they have no idea how to fight a war.
     
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    And again, you have proven nothing.
     
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    LOL!!!!!

    are you saying Hamas never fired rockets at Israel???????????????

    :roflol:
     
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    LOL no!

    I am saying that you do not know if the Rocket was fired by Hamas or by the Mossad and you keep just making things up.
     
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    LOLOL!!!!

    Hamas always takes credit when one of their rockets actually damages an Israeli home or school, or kills a Jew.

    it doesn't happen very often, as they are crappy soldiers and have no clue what they are doing.

    but sometimes they get lucky.
     
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    Stop making things up and just admit that you have no clue who fired that rocket.
     
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    Hamas co-founder Mahmoud Zahar has said that the goal of the attacks is to force mass migration in Israel and disrupt the daily life of its citizens. Explaining why his group had moved from suicide bombing to rocket attacks, he said:

    "Which do you think is more effective, martyrdom operations or rockets against Sderot? Rockets against Sderot will cause mass migration, greatly disrupt daily lives and government administration and can make a much huger impact on the government. We are using the methods that convince the Israelis that their occupation is costing them too much. We are succeeding with the rockets. We have no losses and the impact on the Israeli side is so much
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    Hamas has given other explanations concerning various attacks. Salah Bardawil, a Palestinian legislator who serves as spokesman for the Hamas faction in parliament, has said "We know we can't achieve military equality, but when a person suffers huge pain he has to respond somehow. This is how we defend ourselves. This is how we tell the world we are here."[207] Regarding specific strikes in 2007, Hamas political chief Khaled Mashaal called the attacks self-defense and retaliation against Israeli killings of Hamas supporters.[208] In January 2009 Mashaal called the rockets "our cry of protest to the world"[209] An attack in November 2008 was said by Hamas officials to be in revenge for the recent deaths of its militants and increased Israeli closing of Gaza crossings.[210] A barrage in December 2008 was described by the group as retaliation for the deaths of three of its fighters in combat with Israeli troops.[211]

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    A spokesperson from the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP), on January 17, 2009, called the rockets a "representation of our resistance", stressing that as long as rockets were launched, "our cause is alive".

    The rockets are both a practical and a symbolic representation of our resistance to the occupier [Israel]. They are a constant reminder that the occupier is in fact an occupier, and that no matter how they may engage in sieges, massacres, fence us in, deny us the basic human needs of life, we will continue to resist and we will continue to hold fast to our fundamental rights, and we will not allow them to be destroyed. So long as one rocket is launched at the occupier, our people, our resistance and our cause is alive.

    This is why they targeted the rockets – the rockets do make the occupier insecure, because every one is a symbol and a physical act of our rejection to their occupation, to their massacres, to their crimes, and to their continuing assaults on our people. Each rocket says that we will not allow their so-called "solutions" that are based on the abrogation and denial of our rights.[212]

    The PFLP claimed responsibility for an April 3, 2010 mortar attack on Israel's Shaar Hanegev region, saying that it was carried out "in response to Zionist crimes". The group did not elaborate further.[213][214]

    Other groups
    On January 19, 2009, the al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades, the military wing of Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas's Fatah party, published a statement listing its claimed attacks on Israel, including claimed rocket and mortar attacks on Sderot and Ashkelon. The group said the attacks were carried out "to defend our people in the Gaza Strip" and "to defend the Gaza Strip in the face of Zionist arrogance", but did not elaborate further.[23][215]

    The Popular Resistance Committees claimed that a January 7, 2010 mortar barrage was in "revenge" for an Israeli air strike several days earlier that killed two of the group's fighters.[216]

    Ansar al-Sunna, a small, al-Qaida-inspired Salafist militant group, claimed responsibility for a March 18, 2010 Qassam rocket attack on Netiv Haasara that killed 33-year-old Thai national Manee Singmueangphon, calling it a response to Israel's "Judaization" of Islamic holy places. The group did not clarify which acts or which Islamic holy places it was referring to. Further obscuring the motivation for the attack, the Aqsa Martyrs Brigades, independently claimed responsibility later.[217][218][219][220]

    Majlis Shura al-Mujahidin, a Salafi group in the Gaza Strip, emphasized in explaining its rocket attacks on Sderot in 2012 that "Jihad for the sake of Allah against the criminal Jews is an obligation that we draw closer to Allah whenever we find a way to that, in any place, by what Allah facilitates to us from the reasons of power and repelling".[203][204]
     
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    I asked you to back up your claim on that specific case. Just admit that you can't now.
     
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    where is the evidence for YOU claims?
     
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    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/23/world/middleeast/faa-halts-us-flights-to-israel.html?_r=0

    that was part of the Hamas rocket barage that fell near Ben-Gurion airport and forced many American airlines to stop flights to Israel.

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    http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeast/2014/07/rockets-gaza-tel-aviv-airport-201472592112287992.html

    oh look, even Al Jazeera says that Hamas took credit for the rockets fired at Ben-Gurion Airport.
     
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    You have no idea who fired that rocket.
     
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    Al Jazeera says Hamas fired the rockets and took credit for them.



    you have any evidence to the contrary????????????????????
     
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    I wonder why are Jewish settlements in the West Bank an obstacle to peace, while Arab settlements in Israel are not.

    I wonder why are Jews who want Arabs to leave Israel racists, while Arabs who want Jews to leave a future Palestinian state are not.

    Help, anyone?

    And this is different from "the Temple Mount is holy to Muslims so I the Muslim am taking your house in Jerusalem" how? (for those who don't know, the Old City of Jerusalem became Arab because Jordanians kicked out the Jews in '49).

    Are you saying that Israel taking over the Temple Mount and destroying al-Aqsa would be a perfectly legitimate action?

    Modern Zionism was never about religion, but some people, who even claim to be Jewish, think that all Jews must automatically be religious. LOL.

    Are you aware that the Constitution of the future Palestinian state clearly says that Islam will be the official religion of the new Arab state? An ethno-religious state, no less :eekeyes:

    What nation are you talking about?
     
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    Even among the Zionists, it's well acknowledged that without Hitler's Holocaust there's probably no way the UN endorses the creation of Israel through the sweeping violation of the Palestinians. Especially since a large basis of the Westerns Powers was anti-annexation and colonization. Creating Israel, was precisely that. Israel was a very special exception to the rules.

    One that has given us a thorn since its creation.
     
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    Really? Why was the Arab quarter the largest ?
     

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