Israeli archaeologist denies Jewish ties to Al-Aqsa Mosque

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  1. dixon76710

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    Why then have the Muslim populations of the West Bank and Gaza only continued to grow since 1948?
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I wish I could discuss it rationally with you, Alexa, but I can't. So, my view of Palestinians as being a worthless terrorists and perpetual victims stands. Until they stop attacking Israel and decide to negotiate for peace instead.
     
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    Do you actually bother to read posts or are you on auto pilot ?
     
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    The hatred Iasraelis have to Palestinians comes only from thier actions, hatred over the casulties of bus bomb or street attack doesnt wear off when Israel arrests or kills Palestinians, you need to be extemly detached to think like that.

    This thread s a bout the nationlism of an extremly sensetive holy site, it was a Palestinian move and how you twisted that into attacking Israel as well is byond me, your side made a diplomatic attack on us and you should expect retaliation not out of racism or hate but because that's the war.
     
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    Yea I know you are diving and making bubbles in that cess pool :) my point was to Alexa to wake up and find she is right next to you in the same pool.
     
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    It is racism and it is obvious.

    Why should alexa lighten up about your dehumanization of people?
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I do not give a (*)(*)(*)(*) about hurting feelings of Palesinian terrorists and their defenders. It is obvious.
     
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    There is already ample evidence to suggest that the Old Testament is not an historical document but a religious one. Zahi Hawas, the famed archaeologist, has come to the conclusion that the flight from Egypt actually happened to the Hyksos, not the Hebrews, and Pharaoh gave chase simply because the Hyksos were killing and looting everywhere they went.

    But just as the ancient Hebrews copied the story of the great flood from the Epic of Gilgamesh, they appear to have lifted the exodus from the Hyksos. The Bible is not science, it is the collected stories of a primitive tribal people telling each other how important they are. And like fishermen talking about the one that got away, or Ramses with his temple carvings of the did-not-really-happen victory over the Hittites at Kadesh, the writers of the ancient testaments assumed that the people they were telling stories to had no way to verify the claims for themselves. So "embellishment" was a low-risk activity. The writers of the ancient texts were probably not thinking much further into the future than the guys who pen the "Celebrity dates space alien" stories you see at supermarket checkout lines. The fact that the celebrity is a real person does not prove the space alien exists. It's just a story.

    The fact is that Egypt (along with Iraq, Iran, Syria, etc.) have vast archaeological treasures from which their ancient histories are confirmed. For the stories told the situation is quite different. The story of ancient Israel has no archaeological support for it, and indeed the available archaeology suggests the stories are just that; stories. Israel, while rich in antiquities, is almost totally devoid of artifacts from this supposedly glorious time in her history. The existence of the fabled First Temple was supported with just two artifacts, a carved staff ornament in the shape of a pomegranate and the Jehoash tablet. Both of these artifacts have been exposed as frauds. We are told that once there was a magnificent temple on that hill, but it "all went away."

    But even Israeli archaeologists are now admitting that the available evidence indicates that the first Temple was a very small shrine roughly 1/3 mile south southwest of the Dome of the Rock, and not actually part of the current platform, which is actually the remains of a Roman Fort dating from Herod's time.

    Read more:
    http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/#ixzz4NkdFFPQK
     
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    it is nothing but dishonest historical revisionism, to suggest that the 2nd Temple did not sit on the Temple Mount, rebuilt by King Herod of Judaea.

    Even the Koran talks about this.

    The Romans themselves made a large arch celebrating their victory over the Jews in Jerusalem, showing them carrying away a large Menorah from the Temple.

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    we know that many Islamist bigots in the Hamas, Islamic Jihad, Al Qaeda, IS wish to deny Jewish history in Palestine, but their lies are paper thin
     
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    In the early sixties, my uncle David (Ashkenazim born in America) traveled around the globe.
    Applying to the State of Jordan for a visa to visit "old Jerusalem" he was asked of his religion.
    Uncle David replied, "Agnostic."
    So he got his visa although the Jordanian embassy person said he should be ashamed of himself for being, agnostic.

    Point: Israel has guaranteed the religious sanctity of sites in Jerusalem batter than anyone else,


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    denying that there was once a Jewish kingdom in Palestine, that King Herod of Judea rebuilt Jerusalem and built the Temple Mount and the 2nd Temple, build the still-standing Tomb of the Patriarchs in Hebron, built the ampitheater in Cesearea, makes one a liar and a fraud, and a very POOR historian.

    next he'll say the Moon landings are fake
     
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    Moon landings aside, let's get back to the topic. From the OP:

    An Israeli archaeological expert has asserted that there is no relation between the Western Wall of the Al-Aqsa Mosque compound and an ancient Jewish temple...

    Meir Ben-Dov, an Israeli archaeological expert who is author of many books about Jerusalem and the Temple Mount, further asserted that the Wailing Wall, the Jewish name for the Western Wall, has no sacred significance in the Jewish faith.

    https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20...-aqsa-mosque/?
     
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    so he's a liar and a fraud.

    yes, we know the Islamist propaganda machines can find a couple very obscure self-hating Jews in academia to promote their anti-Jewish agenda, just as your can always find a one albino somewhere in Nigeria.
     
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    This is A GREAT EXAMPLE OF WHY SO MANY PEOPLE BELIEVE IN SO MANY FALSEHOODS...

    Israel’s Bogus History Lesson

    It was presumably intended as an Israeli history lesson to the world. A video posted to social media by Israel’s foreign ministry shows an everyday Jewish couple, Jacob and Rachel, in a home named the “Land of Israel”. A series of knocks on the door brings 3,000 years of interruptions to their happiness. First it’s the Assyrians, followed by the Babylonians, Hellenists, Arabs, Romans, Crusaders, Mamluks, and Ottomans – all straight out of Monty Python central casting....

    http://rinf.com/alt-news/newswire/israels-bogus-history-lesson/

    The OP is is correct. I just finished reading a bunch of Meir Ben-Dov. I would encourage those still confused to do the same.
     
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    Much like this hasbara troll job:

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    quoted for truth
     
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    For the "Palestine never existed and there were no Palestinians crew":

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    you can't prove that is Haifa.

    looks like Tel Aviv to me.
     
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    LOL!

    Welcome To The City of Haifa
    District of Haifa
    حيفا - חֵיפָה
    Ethnically cleansed 25,012 days ago

    Acts of terror

    On December 30th ,1947, a Zionist terrorist planted a bomb in the Arab neighborhood where Palestinian Arab workers from nearby Palestine Oil Refinery used to live. As a result 6 Palestinians were killed, and 41 others were injured. Next morning, the Arab workers rioted in the Oil Refinery and attacked the Jewish workers to avenge the death of their Arab brothers, which resulted in the killing of 41 Jewish workers. In response, the Haganah and IZL forces retaliated by perpetrating the New Years Eve Massacre at Balad al-Shaykh, which resulted in the killing of close to 60 innocent men, women, and children. It should be noted that the people of Balad al-Shaykh had nothing to do with Oil Refinery riots, and the Haganah made the choice of picking an easy target to avenge the death of the Jewish workers at the Oil Refinery .
    On February 29th ,1948, Zionist terrorists rolled downs a barrel of explosives from Haifa's Jewish neighborhood, Hadara Ha Carmel, into al-'Abasyah Arab neighborhood, which resulted in the destruction of most of the neighborhood. The bomb ended up terrorizing the nearby Arab neighborhoods into fleeing soon after that incident.
    On March 22nd, 1948, Zionist terrorists disguised as British officers planted a car bomb in Iraq Street that killed and injured 36 people, mostly women and children, plus the destruction of several public buildings.

    Ethnic cleansing

    Based on declassified Israeli documents, the Israeli historian Benny Morris concluded that the Jewish civilian population (especially Haifa's Jewish mayor Shabtai Levy) was at peace with their Palestinian neighbors, but the Haganah and the IZL leadership had a different agenda to ethnically cleanse the city from its Palestinian Arab population. Benny Morris wrote:

    "In Haifa, the civilian authorities were saying one thing and the Haganah was doing something else altogether. Moreover, Haganah units in the field acted inconsistently and in a manner often unintelligible to the Arab population" (Benny Morris, p. 90).

    To expedite the ethnic cleansing process, the Haganah broadcasted terror messages, via loudspeakers, to psychologically terrorize the Arab inhabitants into fleeing. (Benny Morris, p. 76)

    According to Ben-Gurion's biographer, Micheal Bar-Zohar, the dispatching of Golda Meir to Haifa soon after the city's occupation was nothing but a political and tactical ploy, Zohar wrote:,

    "The appeals to the Arabs [of Haifa] to stay, Golda's mission, and other similar gestures were the result of political considerations, but they did not reflect [Ben-Gurion's] basic stand. In internal discussions, in instructions to his people, the 'old man' demonstrated a clear stand: it was better that the smallest possible number of [Palestinian] Arabs remain with in the [Jewish] state." (Simha Falpan, p. 84)

    Out of the 61,000 Palestinian Arabs who used to call Haifa home, only 3,566 Palestinians were allowed to stay. The remaining population were in constant fear on their lives and properties, and many of them witnessed the looting of their homes and possessions by the Zionists.

    Click here, to read more about the battle for for Haifa in Arabic.

    http://www.palestineremembered.com/Haifa/Haifa/
     
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    this thread is not about Haifa
     
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    UNESCO Director General Irina Bukova has received death threats following her opposition to the organization's latest resolution regarding the Temple Mount. That says something about those backing the resolution, me thinks.

    Italy's Prime Minister, Matteo Renzi, described the resolution as "incomprehensible and unacceptable".

    Japan withholds UNESCO payment over the political meddling of the organization, just like the US did.

    This is the former KIngs Road in Haifa, now Ha'atsmaut Road. Contrary to the popular belief in some pro-Palestinian quarters, it has been built by the British, not by Arabs, in the '20s.

    Oh, and you mentioned reading "a bunch of Meir Ben Dov" regarding his supposed denial of Jewish ties to the Western Wall. Please post titles, editions, page numbers.
     

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