The elephant in the room

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  1. Toefoot

    Toefoot Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Such respect the Clintons have for women......
     
  2. Colonel K

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    Obviously faith-based, since there is no credible evidence.
     
  3. QLB

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    Really? She made $100,000 out of a $1000 investment by "reading the WSJ" and making wise trades. Simply amazing. She was so brilliant that she made a trade at the exact time she was giving a speech. Wow. She as crooked as a snake. Even her daughter says what goes on in the Klinton Foundation is nothing more than "hustling." BTW didn't she get kicked off the Watergate investigation?
     
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    Well and accurately stated.
     
  5. PopulistMadison

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    Even if proven true, I don't think any cares, except for the Trumpers who want him to win. He is an obvious liberal, yet republicans are voting for him.
     
  6. Gatewood

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    No. All confidential material IS classified. But not all classified material is lowest rung of the latter confidential in nature; some of it is secret and top secret and above top secret and it was proven that Hillary Clinton mismanaged ALL of those . . . classifications; which is -- gasp! -- against the law (and intent doesn't enter into it legally speaking). What Comey did in fact was give both the spirit and letter of the law the middle finger to let Hillary off the hook and he did so because -- as Wikileaks proved -- he is politically OWNED by the Clintons.

    This time though, under immense pressure from high ranking FBI people he HAD to play it fair and above board.
     
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    While I totally agree with this, there is more- More elephants, a herd of them. First let me note that lawyers know how to do dishonest things "legally", meaning to not leave evidence that allows prosecution- that is why so much of what Hillary has done hasn't already jailed her. However, let's move to the next Elephant.

    I've been curious about the very odd conditions about strange sexual morality of the Clintons. While I do believe your orientation is usually your own private business, I also believe that high office of leadership cannot be an example of depravity. There have long been stories- unchallenged by Clintons- that include both of them. They indicate that the marriage between Bill and Hillary is an open one. On Bill's side, there are people telling about sex and cocaine use, a black son by a prostitute, State Troopers in Arkansas actually sent out to procure for Bill when he was governor. With all this going on- I was wondering then why Hillary did not have any problem with it. Open marriage was a strong probability- but Hillary was a lot more discreet than Bill.

    Apparently in Washington, it is no secret that Hillary is lesbian and bisexual. Gennifer Flowers, who had a famous affair with Bill years ago, has quoted Bill as saying "Hillary has eaten more (*)(*)(*)(*)(*) than I have". (That sting of X's means cunnilingus oreating at the Y for the those who don't follow.) Now all this is somewhat speculative- or at least the mainstream news has chosen not to make it front page. Now we have this thing about the email investigation being re-opened, focusing around emails from Anthony (AKA the naked weiner) Weiner, and wife Huma Abedin- who also is a long term and close aid to Hillary, often seen very close physically as well as professionally. So I ask myself- knowing the sexual nature of former congressman Weiner, who is now up for a 15 year sex charge, is it likely that he would have married a person with normal sexual values, or that a person with such values would marry him or tolerate his extremes? Unlikely, for sure. So now we have Huma Abedin having a powerful and close position with Clinton. While we don't have much detail about Abedin's sexual issues, she made statements many years ago in Little Rock that she was taken with Hillary when they first met; that she found her beautiful and exciting. Now- what is the bottom line? Would we have a president and assistant relationship similar to J Edgar Hoover and his right-hand assistant, Clyde Tolson? That's one possibility here, but off the point of this post.

    According to some cautious reporters- the real issue with the Weiner/Abedin emails seizure for Hillary is that the names of her various lovers and associations are very likely to be found in those 10,000 emails. Many are from the Weiner- who is notorious for his lack of sexual discretion and big mouth, and yet are on Abedin's computer. Abedin seems to have been an insider for a very long time, and may well have a lot more intimate personal knowledge than Hillary is comfortable with. If the depth of that came out, that elephant would be out of the bag, and it would well be dragging a lot of connected people- perhaps people that Hillary must protect or needs- into scandal. I say bring it on- dump all those emails to the press, and they will be sorted our fast. We need the full story about all candidates before the election; it's doubtful the.government would do that. It's likely that the FBI director did what he did because he knows at least some of what is there and thinks it has major implications.

    If it weren't that the fate of our nation is at stake, this election could be made into a reality show that would make Jerry Springer look tame!
     
  8. Bowerbird

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    What exact law did she break?
     
  9. a sound mind

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    i believe alot of people that will vote clinton wud agree with u, yet its still a no-brainer for them
     
  10. Texas Republican

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    Are you dense?

    It is illegal to conduct top secret government business on an unsecure network. It is also illegal to destroy evidence, especially evidence under subpoena. It's called obstruction of justice.
     
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    Claims of aledged facts need supporting documentation. Opinions do not.
     
  12. spkr22

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    Actually the Paula Jones lawsuit claimed sexual harassment, which still is not rape, is also not an affair. An affair implies there was consent; like Monica Lewinski. Paula Jones was given 850,000 out of court to end the lawsuit. Paid off
     
  13. Balto

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    She has one thing that Trump doesn't have. She is cool, calm, and collected, as she demonstrated in all three debates. And in such a tense world, you need a Commander-in-Chief with a cool head, not a hothead who threatens legal action or is ever-so-eager to engage in nukes.
     
  14. Gatewood

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    Pump that much drugs into a person and anyone will APPEAR to be cool headed. The nation noted however, that even with moderators essentially working for her that she still couldn't handle one Donald Trump. Drugs can only do so much for you.
     
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    You're going to sit there and tell me that someone gave Clinton some drug before the debates? By that logic, we can also claim that Trump was using cocaine before the debates, you know with that countless sniffing he was doing in between sentences? The moderators weren't "working" for her, I didn't see a Candy Crowley moment in any of the three debates. You know, on that point I find it perplexing how Chris Wallace is a democrat, but Trump supporters never b*tched about it because he was from Fox, but Lester Holt is a registered Republican, and Trump was crying fowl just because his employer is NBC Universal. Hypocritical, much?
     
  16. Zorro

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    And another elephant: SHE ALSO WANTS THE LAW CHANGED SO THAT PEOPLE WHO CRITICIZE HER CAN BE PUT IN JAIL:

    “So Hillary doesn’t think the American people should be informed that a candidate is under investigation by the FBI before they vote. Wow.”

    https://twitter.com/KurtSchlichter/status/792795375195258881

    That's not AN elephant in the room, that a HERD of elephants in the room.
     
  17. cupAsoup

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    The shoe does fit.
     

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