Should President Obama pardon Clinton and company?

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Should President Obama pardon Clinton and company?

  1. Yes, this is due to Putin influencing our election so a pardon is appropriate

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  2. Yes, this is just a witch hunt that should end

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  3. No, justice must be served equally for everyone

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  4. Doesn't matter if Clinton wins, DOJ wouldn't prosecute

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  5. Yes, because Americans decided this by their voting

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  6. Maybe, depends on the crime(s)

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  1. JakeJ

    JakeJ Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The "unnamed sources" of the FBI are reportedly claiming that Clinton's aid had forwarded thousands of classified documents to her home via an unsecured server, stored them on her home computer (which is also strictly forbidden) and even printed off copies to keep unsecured at home. Also, she and her husband Weiner never has clearance to even see the documents, who she and he may have gotten by Clinton since she and Clinton shared computer accounts. In addition, they may show Clinton had illegally destroyed emails in a cover-up by what is on the aids computer - also highly illegal and obstruction of justice as well. It also is a potential that many higher ups in the Democrat Party were in this email circle of classified material with none of them authorized to see them or even know such documents even exist. All this - if accurate - is massively illegal on an unprecedented level, may involve many higher ups in Democrat circles plus even contributors and non-government political types - and would constitute hundreds of counts of crimes, with people have gone to prison for just doing one of those one time.

    Of course, we won't know until the investigation results announced, which would never happen if President Obama granted a pardon, meaning we would never know all the crimes committed by Clinton, her aids and other ranking Democrats and rich backers.

    People as high as a general have been convicted and even people have been sent to prison for doing so once. It is possible given the close relationship between Clinton and her aid that Clinton also may be been involved in such emailing of classified materials and/or was receiving classified materials to her unauthorized server and email account by that aid, making Clinton a co-conspirator and co-actor in the crime.

    However, the FBI has also made it clear that nothing is going to be released until after the election. Before he leaves office, should President Obama pardon Clinton and others before even any conclusion of the investigation is announced?

    He would claim that "Hilary Clinton has acknowledged her mistake and that national security was never jeopardized," "that the people have spoken by their votes" and "it is time for the county to unit and move on" as his reason. The Democratic Party, Democrat talking heads and virtually the entire media and press would cheer this as "part of the post-election healing process" while ranting that angry Trump supporters are dangerous.

    To end the investigation and conclude the matters, after the election should President Clinton pardon Hilary Clinton and/or staff members of any possible charges against them?
     
  2. JakeJ

    JakeJ Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    PS Yes, a person can be pardoned prior to indictment or conviction - as President Ford did for Nixon. If so, all investigation then stops for obvious reason.
     
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    If Obama granted Clinton a pardon it would be one of the largest displays of complete corruption this country has ever seen. I truly believe there would be national outrage, like serious outrage that Clinton can get away with something that "deplorables" have done once and gotten sent to jail.

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    This should be changed, a pardon should not be able to be given to someone under investigation. If someone broke the law, they must face the consequences; no matter who they are.
     
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    But can President Obama pardon himself ?

    I don't think so and that's why Obama is campaigning for the Clinton Crime Syndicate because I seriously doubt a President Trump would pardon Obama.
     
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    A typical day in Democrat politics. They just don't care what their candidate does or how corrupt they are, the are D's that's all that matters. I wonder what act hillary did would make Democrats say ok that's enough. Is there anything bad enough ? I wonder.
     
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    For registered Dem Party voters? No. If they had a meaningful sticking point then they wouldn't BE Dem Party voters on the whole. But college youths and independent voters? They are already abandoning Hillary according to the latest ABC poll. You can tell it's legit because the journalists covering it are crapping bricks.
     
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    What would they be pardoned for? A pardon carries an assumption of guilt.
     
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    NIXON was pardoned before any judgement of "guilt".
    That's the way the beltway people watch out for each other.

    Si?
     
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    Charge and conviction comes first.
     
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    Yes he can as could Hillary if she were elected

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    Nope as been proven by Nixon
     
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    yes, this seems to be the only logical reason that obama doesnt support trump :roll:

    i mean, this thread is ridiculous no matter what, but do u even realize that preposterous comments like yours discredit all legitimacy that the issue might have?
     
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    Obama hates the Clintons but he needs Hillary to win because first she will continue to cover up for his misdeeds while in office and because with her as president he won't have to worry about her penning and phoning his quasi illegal Executive Orders out of existence. Both which would worry him about a pending Trump presidency; although truth to tell President Trump is unlikely to reveal anything negative regarding whatever Obama has done; but he WILL pen and phone almost all of Obama's Executive Orders out of existence, hence essentially erase the bulk of Obama's presidential legacy. Sweet!
     
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    He can but would he ?
     
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    Name a sitting President who has gone on the campaign trail campaigning for someone as much as Obama has ?

    During the Democrat primaries Obama actually endorsed Kamala Harris (D) over Rep. Loretta Sanchez (D) for California's next Senator.


    As Wikileaks exposed, liberal Democrats refer to Latinos as "Taco Bowels."
     
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    From 2007 to 2015 the MSM talking heads were reporting that the Clinton's (Bill and Hillary) hated the Obama's (Barack and Michelle.) And they were saying that the Obama's despised the Clinton's especially Hillary. That Michelle Obama despised Hillary more than she despised America.
     
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    "That Michelle Obama despised Hillary more than she despised America."

    Yep and since Michelle is on record as to never having been proud of her nation before Obama got rectally inserted into the Oval Office, that is indeed a LOT of hatred for Hillary on her part.
     
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    Can a president pardon civil RICO? I don't think so.
     
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    While I'm sure he will, & to be honest, I'm not a fan of the Pardon, unless evidence is uncovered that clearly exonerates someone, & the appellate courts take no action, IMO, the DOJ will find some way to avoid prosecuting the case.... Should there be one.

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    Civil RICO?

    I'm perplexed. Investigation & Prosecution under RICO is a federal criminal action, if I'm not mistaken.

    Conviction under RICO, does pave the way for further civil litigation though.
     
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    your putting the cart before the horse

    that said, she will be the next President

    but let's just say she was guilty of something, she would step down like Nixon and her vp would pardon her like Nixon's vp did.. .right?

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    and Trump is on record saying America is not great......
     

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