Yo, Deplorables, Do You Honestly Like Mr. Trump?

I have a quite serious question, even if I do perhaps phrase it somewhat sarcastically, that I’d like to pose to Trump supporters. Before the Mr. Trump became the great white hope of politics, as it were; that is, before he ran for president branding himself as the candidate of angry white males, and began selling you his his mock-anti-status quo, xenophobia-tinged populism, did you like him in the slightest? Didn’t you find his arrogance and crudeness at all off-putting? Didn’t he appear to you to simply be an unkind and narcissistic fat cat? And isn’t this still the reality of his personality? Is it really possible to look at and listen to him on television and not recognize his NPD (narcissistic personality disorder)? Here’s a list of symptomatic traits:

1. Grandiosity with expectations of superior treatment from others
2. Fixated on fantasies of power, success, intelligence, attractiveness, etc.
3. Self-perception of being unique, superior and associated with high-status people and institutions
4. Needing constant admiration from others
5. Sense of entitlement to special treatment and to obedience from others
6. Exploitative of others to achieve personal gain
7. Unwilling to empathize with others' feelings, wishes, or needs
8. Intensely envious of others and the belief that others are equally envious of them
9. Pompous and arrogant demeanor

Except for being envious of others (the magnitude of his grandiosity seems to be such that he doesn’t envy anyone else, but perhaps in the privacy of his mind he does) he perfectly fits the profile. And isn’t he so in-your-face with all of these traits that the truth be told you’re well aware of them? Haven’t you simply decided to overlook them so that you can latch onto him as your advocate and champion, so that you can fool yourselves into believing that you at last have someone who speaks and fights for you, so that you can vicariously feel empowered through him? That is, aren’t you choosing to embrace an individual with an unsavory, dangerous personality, in simple terms a bad man, gambling that he’ll only direct his unkindness at groups that you have some antipathy toward (immigrants, Muslims, and liberals)? Well, that’s a very dangerous gamble indeed, if he succeeds in getting elected Mr. Trump’s lack of genuine empathy and compassion certainly doesn’t bode well for you or for our society. That is, one can’t exactly count on a sociopathic elite like Mr. Trump to genuinely give a you know what about, and to dedicate himself to protecting the interests of the little guy/gal.

Well, my dear Trumpites, don’t you at some level of introspective consciousness realize any of this? Doesn’t voting for Mr. Trump indeed involve electing to be blind to the danger, even to your own interests, of empowering someone with such blatant characterological flaws with the powers of the presidency; and opting to enjoy the spiteful satisfaction, the guilty pleasure of sticking it to the establishment of the Republican Party, and denying Hillary the White House at the cost of enabling Mr. Trump to bring down ruination upon our society? That is, aren’t you-all playing at cutting your noses off to spite the objects of your rightist ressentiment? Isn’t this in fact quite deplorable? Doesn’t it help to make the term “deplorables” somewhat of an apt sobriquet for you? Yes, aren’t you at least a wee bit ashamed of yourselves? You quite arguably should be. Or will moral cowardice have you continue to take refuge from this and other criticisms in the mindless repetition of the mantra "Hillary must be defeated"? To put it a bit rudely, are you at all capable of mustering up a little self-honesty and integrity, some modicum of the ability to admit to yourselves the sad and terrible truth of what you're really up to with your support for Mr. Trump? For the sake of our society I sincerely hope that you are.

 

And, btw, Trump supporters, if you merely respond with knee-jerk defensiveness you won't exactly be doing your part to improve the image of your camp.

 

Do Trump supporters really find The Donald to be a morally attractive specimen?

 

No, I find Liberals to be morally reprehensible pigs since they are the enablers of Donald. J. Trump. Tell me, do you think after the election's over will Hillary be able to sing kumbaya with all of those people she called 'racist, xenophobic, sexist", etc? Can she possibly even pretend to be a president of and by the people of this country?

She cannot. Hell, she should take her OWN advice. She's an extremely prejudiced woman, talking down to those "peasants" about their so called prejudice. Do you know what that's called? It's called hypocrisy. She's a walking, talking hypocrite who to quote President Obama "will say anything" to get elected. Even if that means calling out millions of Americans.

And the idea that someone as prejudiced as this woman, would possibly feel empathy for the same people she spits on is laughable. Democrats electing Hillary Clinton is like if George.W.Bush declared he was a Democrat and could run again.

Labeling Donald Trump as the candidate of "Angry White Males"(which is one of just MANY labels we've heard. Uneducated is ANOTHER such label. And I needn't repeat every INSULT. These people will still be angry, and will be racially targeted and feel resentful(which is probably your hope anyway.) And that would simply do nothing but increase tensions.

Hillary will not be able to do what Bill did(or what Ronald Reagan did.) because to DO those things, you actually have to have human empathy. Which has all but left the Democratic Party.

 

That more or less sums up the Establishment political class too. Especially number 5 - 'a sense of entitlement' being a metaphor for 'the presumption of being born to rule'?

 

Well stated and well written. I will add before the moderators come along and close this leftist flamebait OP that what Ronald Reagan and Bill Clinton have that neither Barack Obama nor Hillary Clinton have, is the talent of 'The Great Communictor'. Partly that was innate empathy but also it was the attendant ability to understand human beings. Obama could fake both aspects well enough to get elected, but once it came to BEING president he fell flat on his face and then defaulted to what he learned from studying Saul Alinsky. Hillary -- on the other hand -- an actual personal disciple of Saul Alinsky hasn't even been able to fake the quality. You talk TO people and not AT people.

Trump for all of his crudeness DOES talk TO people. Hell, the man likes people. All Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama do with people is wipe their behinds with them.

 

This is so lame. Your whole post is knee jerk far left projection and you expect to get a reasonable conversation? Everything you said of Trump applies at least equally to Hillary Clinton and probably more so. Especially that sense of entitlement. The classic sociopath is someone who believes the law shouldn't apply to them and that sir describes bill and Hill to a tee. And you and yours continue to enable this pair of scammers to pick this republics bones merely because they have a D after their name on the ballot. Do I like DJ Trump? Not particularly. He's bit too much of a bombast to suit me but then maybe a bit of verbal heavy artillery is what is needed to break up that voracious Washington mutual admiration society that is slowly eating this country alive.

 

The response will be that liberals and democrats are just as bad or worse. Its predictable.

Trumps personality and other weaknesses have been on display for decades, if his supporters haven't noticed them by now they never will.

 

I don't know if Trump would make a good President or not but I am voting for him anyway. I think he needs to tone it down, bigly however I agree with his stance on immigration and repealing and replacing Obama Care. To be honest though, I would vote for whomever held the R nomination as I am a #neverHillary.

 

One could say exactly the same of Hillary supporters....

 

Predictable indeed, because it's obvious and 100% accurate

The exact same words can be said about Hillary, except she has a 30 year long record in public service proving beyond any doubt her elitism, corruption, incompetence and indifference,above-the law status, grandiosity, sense of entitlement, out-of touch status, her record of failures, her record of absolutely no accomplishments and pretty much all else from the OP's list.

 

All that, and more, could apply to our politicos too. It would seem to go with the territory. Which begs the question WTF do we keep electing them?

 

His policies are preferred by the majority of Americans. You attack his character, but his policies are widely supported.

 

I don't really care about those traits with someone I will have zero personal interaction with.
Does he need to be morally correct, politically correct, to get a job done? Could it help to NOT be morally or politically correct in certain positions?


I think the reason these traits pop out is because of the political correctness that needs to be shown in a public face in politics. I can bet that Clinton has some things to say about Trump off camera/mic, but we are unlikely to hear them because it wouldn't be PC. When a PC candidate does say something un-PC it's worse because we don't expect it. Trump has never been PC so there really isn't shock when he says something [there might be feigned shock in the "MSM"].

So do they like him? Maybe they do - for not being as fake as others can be.

 

He has no policies. He's never been a politician. All you have to go on are his words, and he's proven over and over again that he will not honor such trivial things as words and things he's said in the past. If he wants to do something different when he's in office, he'll just deny he ever said otherwise, even if you show him videos of him saying otherwise.

 

Put down the Kool aid go read his web site. By the way if I wait for a candidate who comes along that mirrors my beliefs I'll probably never vote again.

 

Who Donald Trump is doesn't matter to his supporters. The only thing that matters is who Hillary Clinton is. They don't see Trump as a person, they just see him as "not Hillary Clinton". Therefore, nothing else matters at all. Not his history, not his habits, not the words he says, not even the fact that he's essentially the private sector version of Hillary Clinton.

And they don't want to learn either, because that might increase the chances of something starting to matter. They might have to actually consider who Trump himself is, instead of just who he isn't, and that would introduce the possibility of being majorly hypocritical and two-faced, which in turn would make his supporters uncomfortable. So the less info they have, the easier it is for them to blame it all on the liberal media. They especially don't want to know about any instances of wrongdoing, and especially any that are comparable to what Hillary has done. Those are to be avoided. Those are verboten.

 

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