entire Bush family voting for Hillary, abortion, S.C.O.T.U.S GOP lied to base for yrs

How are you able to criticize her country when in the same post you pretty much imply that you don't know anything about Australia?

Is this a judgmental screwup? Not a whopper like a voting-for-Trump screwup, but like accidentally-putting-the-milk-away-in-the-cupboard-instead-of-the-fridge screwup?

 

So, rather than list your hero's achievements, which I will grant would be problematic. You attack my country. The country that has helped bail out America from more wars than you can list. Most of which in hindsight were not necessary

 

More like trying to avoid DHMO (Dihydrogen Monoxide) because you heard someone say it might not be good for you

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More like trying to avoid DHMO (Dihydrogen Monoxide) because you heard someone say it might not be good for you

 

First, anyone who sincerely believed in the pro-life movement, should never have voted for Trump in the first place. He was pro-choice until he began to think about how to get the republican nomination. He had not said one public word about supporting a ban until 2011. There are no real pro-life candidates this year. There is one pretender that you are desperate enough to define as pro-life because its all you can hang your hat on for hope.

Second, you do not know who the Bushes are voting for. the only source quoted in the article is one Bush nephew ( Trump supporter), he says its nothing but speculation on his part anyway.

Many republicans would say that trump supporters are the real sell-outs because they are willing to put the nation at risk by supporting this volatile, ignorant, impulsive buffoon in charge of the entire American military.

 

I began to look into this ... and it started making me feel sick to my stomach.
I found something on some Dr.McMahon a former abortionist who testified he made about 2000 late term abortions ... and statements that about 80% of those were purely elective.
And testimonies on partial birth abortions by medical witnesses ... I mean, this is pure murder.
People who do not believe it is murder in late-term context probably have something very wrong with their hearts.
Probably different thread, I know ... but this is sick.
I am going to bed.

 

In other words you have been reading "prolife" sites - which do not have a reputation for truth telling and ((((((((((((sigh) this was 1995 over 20 years ago

Since then ultrasounds and amniocentesis have assisted in making the decision to terminate an earlier one for many women facing the possibility of the most wanted and loved baby has a syndrome incompatible with life

See Late Term abortion (third trimester) is almost always a wanted pregnancy gone horribly, tragically wrong

THIS is the letter from McMahon

http://www.pregnantpause.org/abort/definejm.htm

And when he talks of non-elective that means they were done as an emergency procedure

This is one of the more common reasons why late term abortion is performed



If Zika virus hits the USA you might find you or one of your loved ones facing this decision

 

But he said that 80% of the 2000 he did were elective.
And since today's corruption in USA is way worse than in 1995, what makes you believe this improved?

 

I agree. Trump is so far to the edge of conservatism that it makes Clinton somewhat attractive in certain aspects.

 

Good! No Trump supporter should vote for any Republican but Trump....good idea, do it !!!

 

But why should we put people in charge whose only intent is "nation-building"?
This is a dirtiest and most blood-staining and destructive business anyone can be involved in.
And the funny part is ... they pretend to be the 'good guys'.

And concerning pro-life - Trump clearly said he is pro-life and by putting conservative judges he even said it is probable they will overturn Roe vs Wade ... which any of the Bushes are scared to even whisper about.

Bushes are not conservative at all. They are as conservative as Clintons are, because at least Bush the elder said he is voting for her.
Birds of feather type of thing ...

 

Yes. The Deep State has already realized that a long deep dreadful recession is unavoidable. In the words of Ned Stark: "Winter Is Coming". So they have rigged the game to result in a Trump Victory with the Volley Ball Head that runs the Fed, raising rates right into the teeth of the recession, after the election.

The coming storm they will then try to pin on Trump and The Conservative Base that supports him. It's a dirty deal, Trump knows about the deal, but he is willing to take the Bullet because This Nation will be better served with him at the Helm that Crazy Corrupt Hillary The War-Monger, who will turn to most dastardly tool of all, Global War to hide her increasingly obvious failings.

 

no, it's no longer a glob of cell, at that point you remove the baby, it's called c-section, if the baby needs to be removed early to save the mothers life then so be it, that is the mothers choice, not the governments, the baby will have to survive on it's own from that point on without the mother as a host

 

When will people realize neocons stick together?

 

You're just starting to figure this out?

 

This is true.
But what about the fact that most late term abortions are done due to convenience? Doesn't the baby have rights?
I understand she is the host and if she kills it is her responsibility. I agree.
But why can't a defenseless fully formed baby have rights?
After all, it is illegal for mother to kill newborns ... so what is the difference between few days?

I think it should be illegal for a medical facility or abortionist to do a c-section and allow a living baby die without giving it proper medical attention, like tubes and incubators and whatnot.
I think (I am guessing on this) that the reason they kill the baby in the womb, so they would not need to let it die on the table ... assisting nurses probably would not be able to handle the mental pressure of watching a baby slowly die.

 

The Fed won't do anything to risk Wall St.
So if they tank the economy, it will be because WS needs another reset/er bailout.

 

Romney wrote in "Joseph Smith". He wasn't a candidate so I'm not sure what it means.

 

You've probably been told this 1000X, but you must not be able to comprehend anything.
Babies, born have rights. As they have become a legal being.
Anything unborn, the mother has chose to give it a right or not, by declaring the pregnancy wanted or unwanted.

What kind of convenience are you referring to. Saving the mothers life?
If a woman has carried the pregnancy for 8 or 9 months, what more inconvenience would she have, other than the actual giving of birth.
As it's already been said, if the pregnancy has turned bad, that late of a procedure will be a C section.

 

I'm not sure that a bailout happens under a Trump Presidency. Our nation provides the protection of Bankruptcy to companies that take risks, and that's a system that has served our nation well for many many moons. The entire "Bailout" was a new tactic, perhaps worth trying, but repeating? I wouldn't. I'm not sure Trump would either.

Further, it's up to Congress. They would have to pass the enabling legislation.

Last time it was held out as an easier less painful fix by Paulsen, Congress took the bait and set the course that the Obama Administration then followed and expanded on. I don't think the nation feels we got the results that were promised and that would hang over a Congressional debate to repeat it.

Our Bankruptcy system is pretty good and if nothing else it saves us the spectre of Tax Payer Bailouts followed by bonuses for the executives of the bailed out failed institutions. And look at the Banks like Wells Fargo, we bailed them out and they immediately scammed us again on depositor scams.

There are behavior consequences to bankruptcy that do not occur in bailouts. We tried it, we can't be faulted for that, but it would be a much tougher sale, second time around.

 

But this is supposed to be a reasonable conversation, not a legalistic gymnastics where heart and mind play no role.

Many, many mothers abort healthy babies because they do not want to be tied up with a baby.
Or a boyfriend left them and they stayed all this time pregnant to keep the father of the child.
These are facts of life.

What I would do is, if the life of mother is not in danger and the baby is already fully formed, abortion at that time would be illegal and mother would give up the baby (C-section, as you say) at the hospital.

Doesn't this make sense?

 

Maybe. But if all the major banks become bankrupt at once, where will new money come from? Who will make loans?

 

They don't do that in the 8 or 9 month.
If the baby is pull out at C section and is after 7 months or so, then I don't think they can kill it. It can survive outside the womb and the hospital will help it survive.

It's always about legal views. That is how our system operates. Legal or illegal.

 

Hah. I heard that his second choice was Brigham Young. Where are our founding Fathers when we need them? Or better yet, an all around better populace. Oh well, whoever wins will need all the fortune and prayers they can get.

 

Jeb Bush and John "creepy" Kasich made a pledge to support whoever wins the primary, who knows,, maybe they are nuts enough to think the base will forget that, there political futures are over running as republicans, maybe the democrats will take those sellouts in, same team anyway.

Jeb has around 5 days left to honor that pledge, that's if he is a man of his word? but he won't because his master is wall street not the American people never was, just like his war monger, brother George W Bush

 

It's not rocket science, that's why we cannot have two big to fail banks, and that's why wall street has dumped Trillions into elections over the years supporting Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton, Jeb Bush, Marco Rubio, Paul Ryan, Obama, George W Bush, John Kasich and a ton of others to numerous to list. same paid off while others just plain out sucked Like Jeb Bush and Marco Rubio, but what's different this time around is they do not own both candidates, fortunately for the working middle class, Trump was not up for sale.