entire Bush family voting for Hillary, abortion, S.C.O.T.U.S GOP lied to base for yrs

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  1. perotista

    perotista Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What did you expect the Bush's would do? It was Trump who trashed them, started a feud with them, lied about them. I can fully understand the Bush's being very angry at Trump to a point of not voting for him. It's Trump's own fault he doesn't have their support. Now if I were the Bush's I certainly wouldn't be voting for Clinton. I'd vote third party in order to have a say down ballot. In fact, that is exactly what I did.

    Trump has only himself to blame, he started the feud, he ignored Reagan's 11th commandment and turn many Republicans against him. Trump has never tried to united the party behind him, basically stating he doesn't need them. Time will tell about that, but it is certainly understandable that the Bush's wouldn't support him. I'm surprised Cruz came out and finally said he would vote for Trump. Especially after the lie Trump told about his father. Things that come out of one's mouth sometimes comes back to haunt the one who said it.
     
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    no, just the the sellout types like Paul Ryan, Marco Rubio, and the John "creepy" Kasich's of the party, these people are in it for the wall street funding and profit possibilities, not what's best for the working middle class or the United States as a whole.

    Unlike all you Wall street Hillary shills a label R means (*)(*)(*)(*) to the Republican base, It's about what you stand for, oh by the way, FoxHastings you do know wall street Hillary is a closet republican right?, just without all the good republican traits, something like a used condom, news-flash the jokes really on you guys, think about that next time your typing a wisecrack comment.
     
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    complete nonsense, you go vote third party, good luck, Jeb Bush was a wall street sellout, just like his stupid war monger Brother George W Bush, I think Reagan and then Bush SR was two of the best Presidents ever, George Bush SR just could not over come the wall street controlled media Clinton smear machine, we will see if Trump can this time around, oh perotista, that's the same scum attacking Trump RIGHT NOW!, and your going to vote third party? that by default is a vote for wall street Hillary, so get off you high house, no one was a bigger George Bush SR supporter back then, while you're a wall street Hillary supporter today helping to hand Georgia to her, AND don't even have the brains to realize that? Jeb Bush signed a pledge to support the republican nominee right? a persons word is supposed to mean something. as a Trump supporter you have no idea how bad it feels being betrayed like this, but just remember pay backs are a (*)(*)(*)(*)(*).
     
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    FoxHastings Well-Known Member

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    So you eliminate few more Republicans ...good :) Thank you , every little bit helps!
     
  5. perotista

    perotista Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Feel better? Trump started the feud with his negative personal attacks. Trump by the way disavowed, rescinded his pledge.

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...nee-cruz-kasich-refuse-to-commit-support.html

    So does your "a persons word is supposed to mean something." still apply? "When asked if he would keep the pledge he signed last September, Trump responded "No, I won’t."

    I could never support either Trump or Hillary, so I went with Johnson as a sane alternative. At least a lot saner than either of the two major party nominees. Now knowing Trump doesn't keep his word either, as far as that pledge goes, what now? Funny how people can forget their candidate also went back on it, but pillar others for doing the exact same thing. I suppose that is politics today. Nothing more than hypocrisy.

    By the way, neither Trump's column or Hillary's advanced by one with my vote for Johnson. The two major parties do not own my vote. Johnson's went up one was the only thing that happened their, it was an anti Hillary, anti Trump vote.
     
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    OK. Yet the key to anything that is legal or illegal is morality that is based on humanity.
    If any country is based on immoral laws that happen to be legal (as in Communist and similar dictatorship-based societies), then people suffer, since such law contradicts human laws which are based on compassion, helping each other and similar virtues.
     
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    just be honest, you know a vote not for Trump is by default a vote for Hillary, especially in your State Georgia, if that even is your State. if you are a Republican, which I have my doubts, and you vote third party during this extremely important election, you might as well have performed all the abortions yourself that will take place over the next 60 yrs or so. I'm not going to lie, I am not the most religious person around, don't even go to Church anymore, and to be honest reading about souls to polls and their support for "partial birth abortion Hillary", I most likely never will, if not for my grandmother borrowing money to fly to Texas and fight with my mother at a clinic I would have been aborted myself I am reminded every time I look at my boys, how close we all came to never existing, and I really get upset, I also know it's not easy being without a mom, I was raised by my grandmother until she came down with colon cancer and died, when I was around 13, and spent many years bouncing foster home to foster home, so I speak from experience, I was told nobody adapts 13 yr olds, and unfortunately it turned out to be true.

    But today I have a great wife, my boys have the best mom and we have a nice house with a big pool. was it rough at times, you bet I cried over my grandmother many of nights laying in bed, and still do sometimes when I think of her. she would be so proud of me today. I am so glad she gave me a chance at life and I'm sure my kids are as well. sorry to bore you guys. just wanted to show, sometimes there's more to a post then people realize
     
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    Changing the subject

    Canada has no restrictions on when abortions happen and again it is rare rare rare that an abortion happens in the ninth month and usually the foetus will not survive post birth for any length of time
     
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    Except in this case, no one suffers. Except if you force someone to do something against their wishes. Abortion.
    And as I said, a removal of a baby at 8 or 9 months won't be killed on purpose.

    And the morals are based on humanity, us. I agree.
     
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    I could have supported any other Republican except Donald Trump. You do know Trump was all pro abortion until he decided to run for the presidency as a Republican. He is pro gay marriage and he has stated that "Planned Parenthood is important." But all of that gets overlooked because his supporters love his persona, his political incorrectness, his fighting spirit. It's the man they love, not what he stands for, not his lifelong political beliefs.

    Trump only became a Republican in 2012. He was a Democrat most of his life until 1987, then he became a Republican, then an independent, then a member of my tiny Reform Party. Then Trump became a Democrat again, then an independent and finally a Republican. The guy bends with the wind, he is whatever he thinks is advantageous to him. If you're relying on him to put a stop to abortions and the like, I think your relying on the wrong person.
     
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    I love it that people who have no knowledge of the subject feel they can dictate the rules

    Late term abortions are not gleeful even for, and in some cases, especially for the attending staff. These are almost invariably WANTED pregnancies that have gone horribly wrong. No brain has developed, the skin peels off at the slightest touch, there is no face and malformed brain. The bones are totally fused, I cannot post pictures but recommend you google "foetal abnormality incompatible with life" and hit image. You will not look for long

    Mate I live in a state where abortion is illegal but our rates are around yours and abortion clinics exist. Why? Because it is almost impossible to frame legislation that bans abortion and allows us to save the life of the mother
     
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    You are correct, Trump will not stop abortions. Nothing ever has and nothing ever will except locking all women in barns to be treated like livestock....(which is how Trump thinks of women).
     
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    all you did above was attack Trump, same as any Hillary shill would have, he won the republican nomination does that mean anything anymore? or does that only for wall street owned GOP candidates like Mit Romney Jeb Bush, Paul Ryan or Marco Rubio's types? besides didn't Jeb Bush, and John Kasich sign a pledge to support the nominee? does a peron's word mean anything to you?

    how about focusing on the class being half full for a little while?
     
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    A baby has rights, a fetus does not. There is a huge difference between a fetus and a baby...get a biology or physiology book and learn. It's more than " a few days".
     
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    You know the left is in trouble when they side with George Bush in order to protect their corruption. Remember when the leftists wanted Bush to be tried for murder? lol now they pat him on the back. Tooo delicious.
     
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    I feel abortions are up to the woman to decide. Its her body, she shouldn't be told what to do with it. If one is religious and believes god thinks abortions are a sin, then let god deal with her. Until then, no one should be able to dictate what a woman does with her own body.
     
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    perotista Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    A person's word means nothing to Trump either. I posted this in one of my reply's to you.

    When asked if he would keep the pledge he signed last September, Trump responded "No, I won’t."

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...nee-cruz-kasich-refuse-to-commit-support.html

    So a persons word means nothing to Trump, why should it mean something to others?

    Yes, you Republicans choose Trump. At least 40% of Republicans voted for him during the primaries, 60% either against him or for someone else. Now I am a conservative, more of a traditional conservative and classify myself as a Goldwater conservative. Trump is no conservative, he is quite liberal or at least was prior to changing a few of his lifelong held views to run for the presidency as a Republican.

    The guy is an opportunist, not a Republican. You chose him, the Democrats chose Hillary. That's fine as that was done by the party's faithful. But I am not a Republican, I have been a member of the Reform Party since Perot formed it. I had no say in whom the two parties nominated. I do have a say in November or later this month. Just because the two major parties nominate someone, that doesn't mean everyone must vote for them, one or the other. When one dislikes both major party nominees, one is free to choose another option or candidate.

    I detest both Trump and Clinton, neither in my opinion should be within a million miles of the Oval Office. One or the other will be, but I will not help either one and I will do my best to try to get both Hillary and Trump defeated.
     
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    Here you go again, your Trump bashing is getting down right creepy, Trump won the republican nomination do you understand that? Jeb Bush, John Kasich, Marco Rubio took a pledge to vote for the republican nominee, what does that rant above have to do with that? Jeb Bush and John Kasich's word means (*)(*)(*)(*) period from now on, they lost all credibility with the republican base posting a long rant about this and that, trying to split hairs for these two sellouts is a big waste of time and does not change a freaking thing. that's like saying you left out a comma, so your whole post is void, it's freaking ridiculous anyone with half a brain can see that. are you a wall street Hillary shill?, I sure hope not.for your sake. your attempts at trying to Pee-wee Herman Trump are silly at best
     
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    The trouble with the two horse race is that while the two horses dominate the field no-one is going to feed and care for the rest of the racers. Perhaps this time, given the number of people wanting to vote for a third party, those other horses might have more attention paid to them so they will be in a better condition to run next time
     
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    LOL, I shill for no one. I have been just as hard on Hillary as Trump. But we are talking Trump here and not Hillary. You are the one who brought up the pledge and twice I have shown you that Trump broke the pledge also. I can't stand either one. Is that so hard to tell? It's true, you Republicans chose Trump. But that doesn't mean just because you chose him that I have to vote for him. The Democrats chose Hillary, the same thing is true, just because they chose Hillary, I don't have to vote for her either.

    I am not a loyal party man. I have never been a Republican or Democrat and my only political party affiliation has been the Reform Party. I always vote for whom I consider the best candidate regardless of party. When offered two choices I think are dreadful by the two major parties, I vote for the best third party candidate on my ballot. No use for voting for dreadful.

    I cast my first presidential Vote in 1968, since then I voted for 5 Republicans, 2 Democrats and 5 Independents or third party candidate. If I had been 21 back in 1964, you had to be 21 then I would have voted for Goldwater. As it were I campaigned for Barry. But no party owns my vote, the major political parties do not own my vote, I will always vote for the best candidate regardless of party.
     
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    That is very possible. If Johnson receives 5% of the vote, the Libertarian Party will be eligible for federal matching fund in 2020. That may not amount to much, but it is a start.
     
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    oh OK-DA, because you say so, your the same type, that after the election will suddenly be so outraged with illegal immigration, abortion and let's not forget SCOTUS, same fake GOP outrage. It's going to be hilarious after Nov 8th to read all the fair weather RINO bull(*)(*)(*)(*), trying to keep the fake counter balance scam going, spare us your bull(*)(*)(*)(*), a vote not for Trump is a vote for Hillary, period.
     
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    They're all military industrial complex stooges.

    "War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength." - Orwell
     
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    Why don't you re-read what I wrote?
    A human in a belly at the 8th, 9th month is a baby, a person, a human being ... anyone would know that without needing to read books you recommend.
    And there is a difference of just few days before one is born and after.
    Inside a belly and in few days out - same baby ... so partial-birth abortion is not something anyone should defend, especially so bluntly and openly.
    Killing babies is a lowest form of murder.
     
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    the similarities outweigh the differences. George Bush Pere was pro choice in Connecticut before he was against choice running for the nomination. Romney of New England was pro choice before he was against choice running for the nomination. Now they are liars and manipulators. Trump of New York was pro choice before he was against choice running for the nomination. I can match you pro-life quote with pro life quote for all of them. When will you learn that these New England Republicans like Trump, Romney and Bush pere will lie to your face on this issue every friggin time. Trump is playing you.
     

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