entire Bush family voting for Hillary, abortion, S.C.O.T.U.S GOP lied to base for yrs

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  1. eddie228

    eddie228 New Member

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    Spoken like a true wall street Hillary shill, hiding in the weeds with the dog (*)(*)(*)(*), just say it! Hillary's my gal

    you know the witch is going to lose New Hampshire right?
     
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    CourtJester Well-Known Member

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    You do know that until Trump decided that the Republican idiot party was an easy con he was pro choice.
     
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    perotista Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm confused here. Twice today I have been told my vote for Johnson was a vote for Trump by Hillary supporters. Now you are saying my vote for Johnson is a vote for Hillary. Which is it? Could it just possibility be a vote for Johnson is a vote for Johnson?

    Now you show me once the votes are tabulate, how many of us who voted against both Trump and Hillary, for Johnson, for Stein, for Castle, for McMullin, for someone else, how many votes for these third party candidates are added to Hillary's total or how many will be added to Trump's total?

    I suspect none. If the Republicans and the Democrats can't come up with decent candidates, why do you expect people to vote for them? If Hillary wins, blame those who gave us Trump. If Trump wins blame those who gave us Hillary. Just keep in mind around 60% of all of America dislike either Trump or Clinton and 25% dislike both.
     
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    If Trump is playing the people he should get the Oscars ... and he is not that great of an actor.
    Every Establishment politician hates Trump.
    He even took on the Bushes with 9/11.

    It would have been a cakewalk for him with all the Bushes and Romney supporting him.

    And from a personal perspective ... I live very close to where the Trump family used to live.
    My brother-in-law's mother and her friend of many years, she knew Trump's father Fred and mother Mary.
    And her brother was in business (or partner) with Fred Trump on Long Island.
    Even to this moment the Trump family is considered to be a very good good family and they have a very good name and reputation in the neighborhood.

    Trumps parents were good people and Trump's children are good people ... so it is unlikely Donald Trump is a bad person and a liar.

    Donald however, was not a most obedient boy, so his father sent him to military school.

    But here are things about Donald that are important and different from Hillary ... he is a very strong patriot of this country and he has a kind heart.

    No more "nation-building" business ... it is time we build up our own nation.
     
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    CourtJester Well-Known Member

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    Believe the lower class is half full with the Trump deplorables.
     
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    Ditto - why are you not reading what Foxhastings me and others are writing

    The only abortions being performed that late in pregnancy are because the foetus has a genetic/developmental abnormality incompatible with life. I mean why on earth would someone go through 9 months of discomfort and medical problems only to decide that they will "kill the baby". Even girls at home terrified of consequences will rather wait until birth and try and dump the baby (yes it happens and it almost invariably is because the mother is young and needs help)
     
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    Why do I get the feeling that there is a lot of story telling going on here ?
     
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    last I checked you we're never a Trump supporter? so how is that possible? switching names again WOW
     
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    because your wearing blinders, it's hard for a Hillary shill to understand something that does not match up with CNN, or MSNBC propaganda.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Keep telling your self that, as your burning in hell.
     
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    Makes sense. Bush Sr gave us nafta which bill signed. Trump is anti open borders free trade, the scheme of he robber barons, and the Bush family are a part of this cabal. Research the bush family, and George Herbert Walker, the man who aided the Nazis, with loans. Find out why this bush family are such good friends with the Saudi royal family. LOL The trouble with americans is they do not educate themselves and then are played like a beer joint fiddle. And they must love it.
     
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    No mind, Bill Clinton gave us NFTA, 1st graders know that.

    FYI
    The House of Representatives approved NAFTA, by a vote of 234 to 200 on November 17, 1993, and the Senate voted 60 to 38 for approval on November 20. It was signed into law by President Clinton on December 8, 1993, and took effect on January 1, 1994
     
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    :roflol:

    I have no danger of that since I have paid my dues for living on this planet

    But where is your research backing your allegations? See a rational person basis opinion on fact not stories and emotion


    Abortion law reform focuses on early abortion. Women wanting to have a family who have a fetal abnormality detected later in pregnancy are neglected in the debate and harmed by the consequences of current legal uncertainty.

    Unclear abortion laws compromise: the quality of prenatal testing; management when an abnormality is found; and patient care, through obstetricians’ fears of legal repercussions.

    Women carrying a fetus with an abnormality are being denied abortion, even when the abnormality is so severe that non-treatment would be an option if the baby were born.

    Many women are likely to refuse to consider motherhood if they are denied appropriate prenatal testing and access to abortion if serious abnormalities are detected.

    Current abortion laws result in discriminatory and inconsistent practices, where access to prenatal testing and termination of pregnancy depends on location, the values of the treating doctor or hospital ethics committee, and a woman’s personal resources.

    Legal certainty is needed to reduce the suffering of couples wanting to have a family.


    https://www.mja.com.au/journal/2008...bnormalities-forgotten-people-abortion-debate

    Tell me - what is your medical background in relation to maternal and child welfare?
     
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    My post had to do with your ludicrous claim that Trump was sincere about his pro-life conversion for the presidential office but George Bush, Mitt Romney were manipulative liars when they 'pretended' to be pro-life. How many time will you fall for this crap? New England Republicans have a habit of discovery the sanctity of life when they have to reach out to Southern Midwestern and western Republicans for votes and not a moment before.
     
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    LOL there appear to be a rash of great New England republican actors when one of them runs for national office and suddenly sees the light on the sanctity of life. All three were good enough that the party voted for these pro lifers in sufficient quantity to get the nomination.
     
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    One Mind, I misread your post, under attack by Hillary shills so much, so sorry about the friendly fire
    I am a idiot, Natty here's a softball for you right over the plate, you can quote that I deserve it.
     
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    I don't know.
     
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    Yet you need to face the reality and not that what you wish it was.

    Trump said in plain words that he will appoint conservative judges in the context of Scalia. He also stated plainly that these judges would decide what is what in context of abortion. And when he was asked at the debate if Roe vs Wade could be overturned, he said that it certainly could depending on these judges.

    If he appoints conservative judges, and he already submitted 20 names, then things would happen the way conservative justices decide.
     
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    Edial Active Member Past Donor

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    I am reading what everyone is saying and everyone is not saying that partial-birth abortion should be outlawed except in cases of genetic abnormality or health of mother.
     
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    Edial Active Member Past Donor

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    I don't do that.
    I live in Fresh Meadows, Queens and that is few minutes from Jamaica Estates where Trump Sr original house is (was) ... and my nephew has a house on Surrey Street, Jamaica Estates.
    You need more proof, PM me.
    I don't do that ...
     
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    Do I really need to remind you of the promises Romney and Bush made to appoint conservative justices who were in favor of repealing Roe? I know what he said, and I know what he said as late as 2011 about hating abortion but respecting a womans right to choose BEFORE he started courting conservatives for a run for this national office. His 'evolution' on this issue is conveniently parallel to the evolution of Romney and Bush when they evolved. he is as much of a pro-lifer as they are and he is as conservative as they are. the man had nothing but praise for the same Clintons he so detests now.

    You guys don't have an ideologue, because this guy has no ideology, no philosophy and no standards beyond what he needs to say to scam a major party into nominating him. He picked the republicans because the base has a history of being duped by moderate New Englanders and he thought he could fake it better because his act tough on illegals speeches, and his opposition to those trade deals were the only subjects he has been sincere and consistent about.

    the rest is a complete fraud. Half the time he doesn't even know what he is saying.
     
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    You just described Hillary you know that right?, Romney was a loser and GW we now know was a fake and wall street. teammate of the Clinton's.
     
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    I didn't defend partial birth abortions.
    Partial birth abortions are not done on a whim. As you have been told there has to be reasons for them.


    Did you REALLY think women go through the "joys" of 9 months of pregnancy all for the "fun" of having an abortion? NO, they do not.

    Maybe Trump thinks wall women are so evil they do that for fun but then he thinks women are cattle anyway....



    There is a big difference between a fetus that is still connected to it's host and a BORN baby that isn't.

    And my gawd there isn't a few DAYS difference between born and unborn :roflol:there's just a few seconds when the fetus comes out and the cord is cut......that doesn't take days....


    OK, you think abortion is the lowest form of murder.

    What EXACT punishment should women get for having abortion, late term to save their live or earlier abortions before the fetus is viable??


    Execution or 20 to life?
     
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    of course you did, and you still are

    you don't even have the nerve to use the word MOTHER? WOW, Host? how about using the word women at least, I think the unborn deserves that respect before being killed, you're really something? even death row gives a last meal. I don't even know anymore, what in the world have we become.
     
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    :) You're flailing now in your lack of proof.....

    I never defended partial birth abortions, I asked YOU for PROOF they were happening with healthy fetuses and healthy women and YOU couldn't answer.

    AND a woman is NOT a mother until she has given birth. Did you know that not all women have given birth ???????!!!!

    Yes, a pregnant woman IS a host to the fetus. See, they are connected, didn't you know that? And they're connected for a reason, the fetus lives off the WOMAN...she is the host...



    More questions you avoid:

    What EXACT punishment should women get for having abortion, late term to save their live or earlier abortions before the fetus is viable??


    Execution or 20 to life?
     
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    There is this similarity between Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump. They both had effusive and adoring comments to describe Bill Clinton and his accomplishments before they ran for president.

    when will you guys wake up.
     

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