Hong Kong = New Tibet? "Hong Kong faces new political turmoil"

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    http://www.economist.com/news/leade.../fb/te/pe/ed/hongkongfacesnewpoliticalturmoil


    China’s new Tibet
    Hong Kong faces new political turmoil
    Silencing separatists is not the answer
    Nov 12th 2016

    HONG KONG’S Legislative Council, or Legco, has descended into chaos over how members should take their oaths of office after elections in September. Pro-establishment lawmakers dominate the 70-member chamber, thanks to a voting system skewed towards those who support the government and the Communist Party in Beijing. Despite that, voters elected half a dozen candidates who want Hong Kong to be more independent—some even favour outright separation from China.

    At their oath-taking two members of a new party, Youngspiration, pledged allegiance to “the Hong Kong nation”, used the imperial Japanese pronunciation of “China”, and displayed a banner declaring that “Hong Kong is not China”.

    The theatrics by Sixtus Leung and Yau Wai-ching at times seemed puerile. On November 7th the central government made clear that it was in no mood for farce.

    Its rubber-stamp parliament, the National People’s Congress (NPC), issued a ruling aimed at barring Mr Leung and Ms Yau from Legco (see article). Few doubt that the NPC will get its way. Other independence-leaning lawmakers may also be ejected.


    The intervention has angered many in Hong Kong. Though the NPC oversees the territory’s constitution, its rulings were always intended as a last resort in a place that was promised

    “a high degree of autonomy” on its reversion from British rule to China in 1997.

    In this instance, Hong Kong’s own judiciary had just begun hearing a case brought by the territory’s government aimed at disqualifying the two members. Never before have Hong Kong’s courts been pre-empted like this. The ruling undermines the judicial independence that makes the territory so successful as a global financial hub.
     
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    Worse, it betrays the NPC’s refusal to acknowledge how the Communist Party’s own miscalculations have created today’s dissent.

    In 2014 the NPC declared that Hong Kong would not get the full democracy

    that many thought they had been promised: only candidates approved by the Communist Party’s backers in Hong Kong could become chief executive.

    Public anger erupted into weeks of protests that spawned a “localist” movement.

    Its members called for self-determination for Hong Kong. The party’s hard line fuelled support for them,

    especially after a Hong Kong bookseller dealing in gossipy tales about China’s leaders appeared to have been kidnapped by the party’s goons and taken to the mainland.

    Four of his colleagues were also snatched away, either while visiting the mainland or, in one case, from Thailand.
     
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    Hong Kong is still far freer and more open than anywhere on the mainland—home to a lively press, a mostly clean and efficient civil service and a political culture still largely unrestrained by fear.

    But the Basic Law only promises that Hong Kong will keep its capitalist way of life until 2047.

    Many people worry that China will tighten its grip long before the reprieve runs out. Every sign that it is doing so plays into the localists’ hands.

    Hours before the NPC’s ruling, thousands took to the streets in anticipation of what it would say; some shouted “Hong Kong independence” and scuffled with
    roit police
     
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    Once, Hong Kong was viewed by China’s rulers as their star exhibit for wooing Taiwan back into the fold.

    Now they are beginning to view the territory as yet another restive province with ungrateful subjects—a better-washed version of Tibet or Xinjiang.

    China does not appear to be mulling the use of its troops to crush unrest—that would be calamitous for business and the much-vaunted policy of “one country, two systems”.

    But it is baring its teeth
    . It is not only Hong Kongers who should be concerned.

    So should all those who look to Hong Kong’s freedom and prosperity as a future path for China itself
     
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    As HONG KONG can no longer keep its autonomy anymore , and just a money laundry machine of China, so break it down
    Please help us,sign and share this petition

    Let us stand on the front line to fight the red Dragon.
    https://wh.gov/ieWES

    Hello everyone, I am a Hong konger,
    to SAVE OUR Autonomy, we launched a petition to request the US GOVERNMENT to suspende the (Hong Kong~ US POLICY ACT),AS our situation is no longer for USA can treat us as a "place different from China "
    We are CLOSER AND CLOSER to the hell China DAY BY DAY.

    PLEASE HELP US! sign and share this petition: in order to give pressure to China. We are ready to take the cost.
    Thank you very much - on behalf of my fellows Hong kongers! Thank you🌷

    https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/pet...ger-autonomous

    - - - Updated - - -

    High transparency and low corruption makes Hong Kong ("HK") a global city, owing to the separation of powers and rule of law under common law doctrines. However, this is no longer be the case.

    In the wake of the recent NPCSC interpretation of Basic Law and subsequent loss of autonomy of HK:
    We URGE the President, the Congress and Senate to

    ***SUSPEND US-HONG KONG ACT 1992,

    in response to the change of status. It should be done not just for HK, but also to safeguard the rule of law, separation of powers and core values enshrined under the American Constitution.

    Below outlines the reasons:
    1) This NPCSC interpretation is inherently prejudicial.

    2) Procedural Impropriety & Ultra Vires: The China NPCSC should only interpret Basic Law when requested by the HK Courts, which is not the case here. Thus they are acting outside of their powers.

    3) HK as a backdoor to escape legal liabilities & corporate responsibilities: China has been increasingly manipulating HK economically and politically. HK is used as a breeding ground for listing Chinese companies, so they could deal with business in bad faith, by means of corruption, tax evasion, deliberate avoidance of tariffs (exporting goods from HK), fooling American and international investors. HK passports which enjoy visa-free access to more than 150 countries/regions, are abused by the Chinese for spying and fraudulent activities. Regretfully HK government has no power to stop all these.

    4) The impact will extend to Asia-Pacific, a region with substantial American interests.

    We deeply condemn these barbaric acts--Tyranny and Bad faith have no place in the modern world.

    So help us God.
     
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    That is thug British colonial oppressive rule through warfare where they made China addicted to opium at the barrel of gun. In the same terroristic fashion the British took Tibet from China. And the British left Tibet as a totally backward feudal state where the elite monks class where the slave masters of Tibet. Those monks ruled by their Lama terrorized their own country with eye-couching, cutting of limbs and skinning their people to make their drums. It was a total abomination, and China took back what was part of their country for centuries and made it a much happier and much prosperous place, free of slavery, pro education etc. That them monks want their power back and they represent peace and love is an awfully ill joke they successfully sold to the west.
     
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    Push push push
     
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    no government official can be seated in office if they deviant from Oath, calling racial slur or announce independence from that country whether in china or US. the two HK elected were childish, rather work from within they say some stupid and childish things.
     
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    [video=youtube;ihS_D0Btaz8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihS_D0Btaz8[/video]

    If the situation gets out of control, Chinese tanks will roll in to Hong Kong to subdue student protests, which is like a repeat of the Hungarian Uprising of 1956. People in Hong Kong should have no illusion about Communist China. Thousands could be killed as a result.
     

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