Can anyone object to a world pace Amendment to Constitution?

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  1. Ted

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    then what Party did Jefferson and Madison found in 1793???
     
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    I said peacefully just like when Jesus and Saint Paul started Christianity. World peace has to start at home and the first step is to get rid of liberals as our Founders intended.
     
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    The founders would be appalled at the size and scope of government now
     
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    yes liberals have made our govt into exactly the monster our Founders so feared!
     
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    Show me how well you know and accept the highest principles of the republic.

    As a Citizen of a state of the united states for America, do you understand, agree and accept then DECLARE it is constitutional intent that the framers of the founding documents intended for us to alter or abolish government destructive to the ideal of our unalienable rights?

    As a Citizen of a state of the united states for America, do you understand, agree, accept then DECLARE it is constitutional intent that the ultimate purpose of free speech be to enable the unity adequate to effectively alter or abolish government destructive to the ideal of our unalienable rights?
     
  6. Ted

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    they did not intend for us to alter or abolish govt but rather to live under the very very tiny govt they gave us on the theory that big liberal govt had been the source of evil in human history!!
     
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    Tyrannical despots were what they were escaping and guarding against and they provided the mechanism of Article V to alter or abolish with.

    The 9th amendment gives us the right to rights not enumerated. We can use Article V to enumerate rights that shrink government while protecting unalienable rights.
     
  8. Ted

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    do you have any idea what your subject is?
     
  9. yguy

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    My guess is you're referring to this:

    Democratic-Republican Party, originally (1792–98) Republican Party, first opposition political party in the United States. Organized in 1792 as the Republican Party, its members held power nationally between 1801 and 1825. It was the direct antecedent of the present Democratic Party.​
     
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    how is that possible when Jefferson's party was for tiny govt and the present Democratic Party is exact opposite?
     
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    Nope. It's flame bait
     
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    Jefferson's shot heard around the world, and liberal opposition to it is flame bait?? Can you explain?
     
  13. Lesh

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    Can I explain your attempt to start a flame war on a debate site?

    My guess is that it's what Trumpers do...
     
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    Sure they were.

    War of 1812 springs to mind
     
  15. Ted

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    Jefferson's shot heard around the world, and liberal opposition to it, is flame bait?? Can you explain? Aren't you trying to change the subject because you feel unqualified to participate?
     
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    Modern Republicans as represented by whom? I've not yet found one who is really for limited government or freedom from government. Most are quite authoritarian. They only place they might win out over the modern progressive is on some economic issues. Otherwise, it's more prisons, more wars, more wars on human behavior, more economic protectionism (yet another form of socialism), etc.
     
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    Nope...your attack on liberals as a group is flame bait.

    And you do it constantly.
     
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    For example 100% voted against Obamacare 38 times. It was in all the papers
    !! Sorry to rock your world.
     
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    The causes of that war were in regard to direct impact on America.

    We weren't trying to fix some foreign problem, which was the point.
     
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    The US House has voted against Obamacare more than 60 times.

    What they have NOT done is describe what would happen AFTER Obamacare is repealed!!

    I do not know of any other case where congress attempted to destroy such a major policy as the ACA without stating what would come next. That is, what families would face after their all policies are canceled.

    Today, we have a health care insurance system, because Dems refused to fold when the Republicans shut down our government over their demand that we kill all health care policies without knowing what would come next!!!


    At ALL times, Republicans have been free to make a proposal on what they would prefer.

    NEVER have they done that - even though they have been in the majority in the House and the Senate.
     
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    The link provides a recital of most of the events that marked the transformation of the Party of Jefferson into the Party of Slavery by the middle of the 19th century. From there you can see the Democrat Party hasn't changed appreciably between then and now.
     
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    Our drones are spreading peace as fast as they can be turned around.
     
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    I disagree.

    The only way globalization can work, has nothing to do with any particular nation, or government, or constitution, or religion, or race, or colour, or sexual orientation.

    It can only work, when the PEOPLE of the world join arms.
     
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    Constitutional amendment effecting our action of altering or abolishing, because our government and the collusion with various interests it conducts is causing war which destroys unalienable rights.
     
  25. Ted

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    do you mean join arms as liberal Nazis or American conservative/libertarians?

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    I don't think the are changing hearts and minds. Do do that we have to promote Jefferson shot heard around the world. Make sense?

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    the issue is what the Republican Party stood for in 1793 when it was founded not what it was subverted to in the next Century. Republicans are the true Americans
     

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