Trump vows to end U.S.-Cuba 'deal' unless Havana makes better one

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  1. Think for myself

    Think for myself Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Trump, once again via Twitter, is showing his diplomacy, or lack thereof.

    Apparently, he is going to "terminate" our "deal" with Cuba unless they meet some unspecified markers.

    One has to question the intelligence of takign to Twitter and making statements with such impact on international relations, plus the lack of any formal diplomacy involve,d but hey, it is Trump, so what did you expect.


    I question the validity of his plan or terminating what I think is diplomatic relations with a country whose current regime has lasted through I believe 10 presidencies and the USSR. I don't think one affects change with such a country by ignoring and isolating them, and I certainly don't think one negotiates such change through social media, as Trump seems willing to do.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...=Feed:+reuters/topNews+(News+/+US+/+Top+News)

    U.S. President-elect Donald Trump said in a tweet on Monday he would end the United States' "deal" with Cuba unless a better one was made, reflecting his campaign pledge to reverse President Barack Obama's moves to open relations with the Cold War adversary.

    "If Cuba is unwilling to make a better deal for the Cuban people, the Cuban/American people and the U.S. as a whole, I will terminate deal," Trump said in a Twitter post.

    Trump's tweeted as Cubans prepare to commemorate Fidel Castro, the communist guerrilla leader who led a revolution in 1959 and ruled the Caribbean island for half a century. Castro died on Friday.

    On Saturday, Trump, a Republican, said in a statement that his administration would "do all it can" once he takes office on Jan. 20 to boost freedom and prosperity for Cubans after Castro's death.

    The statement sidestepped whether Trump would follow through on a threat made late in his White House campaign to reverse Obama's diplomatic thaw with the island nation, leading some to view it as a softening from his campaign rhetoric toward the country.

    Castro's death has led some Cubans to worry that Trump will shut down the U.S.-Cuban trade and travel ties that have begun to emerge in the past two years since Obama's historic declaration.

    Cuba has always fiercely resisted what it sees as U.S. attempts to change its internal political system but the government has stayed mostly quiet on Trump, waiting to see whether the president-elect converts his harsh rhetoric into a real policy chang
     
  2. Thirty6BelowZero

    Thirty6BelowZero Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Who cares about Cuba.
     
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    His "deal" will most likely be how many of his own businesses he can put on the island.
     
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    seems to me Obama deal strategy is giving Cuba/Iran etc whatever they want and getting noting in return. I hope he does not plan a career as a used car salesman after leaving office or he will be be selling the cars away for a dollar and filling them with gas before they leave the lot.

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    The Cubans do, shame what Castro did to that island. It could be a vacation paradise
     
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    And the obama legacy begins to crumble.
     
  6. Texas Republican

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    Maybe we could get back some our escaped convicted murderers and those that escaped prior to their trial. I bet the families of the murder victims would like to see some justice. No Justice? No peace!

    There are dozens of things like that which Obama could have bargained for, but he just chose to ignore. He's such an idiot. Trump won't put up with crap like that.

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    Correct. Cubans could be wealthy now if they had chosen a different path in the 1950's.
     
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    I do. Why should I not be allowed to vacation there and spend my money there like the rest of the world does because Republicans want to buy votes in Miami?
     
  8. Think for myself

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    That requires diplomatic relations, which Turmp threatens to end.
     
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    Questerr Banned

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    I imagine the Cubans would be willing to send convicts back to the US just as soon as the US gives up the terrorist who murdered a hundred Cuban men, women, and children that the US has sheltered for decades.
     
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    What is funny is that Obama's "deal" helped torpedo Hillary in Florida.
     
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    There isns't much room for buying Republican votes since the Cuban exile community is still blaming Kennedy for thevBay of Pigs fiasco and that time Clinton 's people sent that Cuban born kid back to his family. They did what was by the law and convention instead of what would be good fir the kid in the long run. The kid could have joined his father in the dictatorship after he reached the age of majority.

    Democrats aimed at their foot in that case.
     
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    Hey , didn't you hear? America first from now on ! Cuba don't like it, they can keep their cigars. Can't smoke them anywhere anyway.
     
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    Why would you want to vacation in a communist country and support an oppressive government, don't you guys normally boycott things like that? Besides, what's wrong with Puerto Rico? The island is going broke while Obama created competition with it, and they're all democrats down there.
     
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    Why should I not be able to go to both?

    I can go to China and Vietnam and those are both communist countries.
     
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    We should have made returning murderers to the U.S. a prerequisite before even talking about normalizing relations. The idiot Obama never even considered that.
     
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    Why would they return any murderers to the US when we've been sheltering a terrorist who murdered a hundred Cuban men, women, and children for decades?
     
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    Trump will screw that all up too. What a disaster this guy is going to be.
     
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    They were suckered in by the romantic sounding words of an ideology that promises everybody will be equal and that the all knowing and all powerful govt will provide...free (*)(*)(*)(*) for everybody!!! They didn't realize at the time what it would become just like the progressive college age millennial of today are clueless. Just look at Kapernick as exhibit A...listens to God knows what by his professors at Nevada and comes to the conclusion healthcare and schools are top notch. He says as much in his pre-miami game press conference while wearing and Castro/Malcolm X shirt. Just clueless.
     
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    Diplomacy with a brutal dictatorship the left adores? Oh wait, I see the problem.
     
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    LOL...the REST of the WORLD is "vacationing" in Cuba? Really? Since when?
     
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    Screw what up? Cuba's already pretty screwed up...well...unless you run the country.
     
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    The Cubans are damned lucky that the Marxist Castro brothers accidentally managed to halt their tiny island nation's downward economic slide just short of what has happened to Socialistic Venezuela. There but for the grace of . . . .
     
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    But my question was why would you want to?
     
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    People from Europe and South America vacation in Cuba all the time.

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    Because they don't have the Great Wall in Sheboygan?
     

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