How dare the President-elect have an opinion! And Voice it?? WTF! ( amusing CNN is pushing this nonsense 24/7 now). Did he say he would push Congress to pass a law? Did he say he would appoint those the USSC to reverse the ruling? No and No.. This is more fake outrage. Hell Hilary (*)(*)(*)(*)ing Clinton was all for banning flag burning.. http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/12/5/169786/-
Attempt at recovery from what? People are trying to ban the Confederate flag from official displays in government buildings. The government doesn't have 1st Amendment rights, so it isn't protected. Can you give a good reason why the flag of a group that went to war with America, murdered Americans, and held millions of people in brutal slavery should be placed with any kind of honor in American government buildings? If a government building was proudly displaying the flag of ISIS would you be defending their decision?
If Trump had a flag, it would look just like the one they burned. - - - Updated - - - You're welcome to keep pretending like it's only government offices that is being targeted. Please continue.
Has Obama called for revoking someone's citizenship or time in jail? It's interesting that someone who clutches the 2nd amendment to his chest in defense of it would simply discard the first amendment and throw it into the junk heap. As I've mentioned in here before, the man is dangerous; his staff and VP need to take away his cellphone until his presidency is completed.
I agree with him. Not just for the obvious insulting reasons that come with burning a symbol people died for. You can try and call it "free speech"...but you are starting a fire in public. Try that with a gas soaked rag in a crowd and see if your "free speech" gets you off the hook.
You're kidding right? The left has a large number of people that are the biggest Nazi's in the world. Everything to them is either banned, or mandatory. These are the people going out of their way to destroy statues of generals and other absurd actions.
So you can't provide a source? Should America have statues praising enemy generals who killed Americans? Should we put up a statue of al Baghdadi next?
big difference from placing a flag on gov land and a person owning it themselves, the Confederates lost, they government should not be honoring their flag I support a citizens right to put one in their lawn, I do nto support the government putting one on the court house lawn .
Tit for tat. Let's outlaw burning the flag, and then we can overturn citizens united. Since, if burning the flag isn't free speech, money shouldn't be either.
Fine. Let's remove all the democrats from government property then. - - - Updated - - - History is not praise, and despite the last 8 years I don't think our previous administration was successful in getting ISIS members elected. I'm sure they tried.
I highly doubt you support free speech for those you do not agree with. I'm sure you support US Flag burning. But is it okay to place a noose around the statue of a Black civil rights icon----or is that a "hate crime?" Is is okay for Blacks to deface the Lee Monument in New Orleans, and other Blacks want the monument torn down? Is that not even worse than burning a US Flag?
Lol, Trump proposes giving political correctness the force of law, imprisoning or removing the citizenship of the non-PC, and his fans call any objection to it PC. That's just rich. No one is objecting to hearing his opinion. They are objecting to the content of the opinion . . . in the exact same manner as you do when you debate people online. The only one saying that people should not have the right to free speech here is Trump.
Just as I suspected, trump has no use for the first amendment. What next? FTR - I recognize flag burning as free speech but will exercise MY 1st A right (unless trump manages to eviscerate that amendment, which this latest tweet makes me fear he might try) to say I don't approve.
Very clearly so, and in the Constitution itself, no less. This is because turning just about everything the government doesn't like into Treason is a time honored tactics of tyrants everywhere, note how quickly rightists do exactly that.
Trump's tweets are not always serious. But they're like catnip to liberals and the media. By saying flag burners should lose their citizenship, he doesn't literally mean that. He's just tilting the conversation to the right. Instead of celebrating flag burners as "true Americans, expressing their constitutional right to protest", he's suggesting they should be ridiculed and shamed.
\ first of all thank you for your service, but you are wrong on this one. freedom of speech is one thing, burning the Stars and Stripes is another, It's disrespectful, and a good dose of manners is in order if it is done in public. If you want to do it in your own backyard with only you and your other ill repukes fine. but when you do it in public you are making a statement. And those who take it as disrespect to those who have died fighting under that flag are free to deal with the situation anyway they see fit. - - - Updated - - - you really need to stop whining, you lost, move on
Im sorry, but you are not comprehending what I'm saying whatsoever. I agree you have the right to burn the flag. I don't disagree with the SCOTUS decision. You described how you burn the flag correctly for disposal. I pointed out that that's what you were doing.Then you ask if your citizenship should be stripped because you burned the flag while spouting political rhetoric and satanistic things. . I said no, but I wouldn't call that disposing of a flag though. Step back, take a deep breath, and read our exchange again. Then apologize. It's the only respectful thing to do at this point. I'm ok with the fact people want to burn the flag. I don't agree with their reasonings(I feel the only reason is for proper disposal), but it's a free country, sometimes. edit: after re reading our exchange, I can only come to the conclusion that you think the SCOTUS ruled that it was ok to strip your citizenship for burning a flag.
Again the first is not that to protect popular speech, it's there for exactly this situation. Burning the flag, with what it means, is clearly a powerful form of expression and is absolutely protected under the first, as it should be. Also no, people are not free to "deal with the situation as they see fit".
What troubles me is the level of translation, interpretation and rewriting his words require in order to make them palatable. Talk to a dozen Trump supporters and you'll get 13 different explanations as to what he "really means," and none will match his actual words.
I wish the Democrats and liberals cared as much about the constitutional when they are snatching guns away from law abiding citizens .
Yo tambien! Speaking of which, the freakin' extractor snapped on my Versa Max last Wednesday, so tomorrow I am hunting old school, the 870. Nothing to absorb the recoil, and I have to remember to pump hard.