New York City may erase ID card data to protect illegal immigrants

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  1. sec

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    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/11/1...-card-data-to-protect-illegal-immigrants.html

    HYPERLINK above has full details

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    When New York City launched the nation's biggest municipal ID card program last year, advocates said it would help people living in the U.S. illegally to venture out of the shadows.....................

    The city has vowed to protect cardholders' personal records and might even delete them using a kind of self-destruct provision that allows for the information to be destroyed at the end of the year...............................

    Alberto Saldivia got his "IDNYC" card this year after spending 15 years in the country without legal authorization.

    "It did cause me considerable concern, because they have my information, also the information of my son," the 53-year-old Mexico native said through an interpreter.
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    Why would a city feel the need to hide illegal aliens? What part of "the law" does the mayor not understand?

    Why would a person who has been here illegally for 15 years still need an interpreter? What part of assimilation is not understood?
     
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    My first thoughts as well.
    It's because no one assimilates anymore. Strike that, it's us who are being forced to assimilate to them. it's no coincidence that kids are often mandated to learn Spanish in schools, and we have Spanish print on every product and set of instructions that come with said products. Spanish channels on your TV etc.
    We have been doing nothing but enable people to do just this. Come into our Nation with no plan to assimilate and we'll make sure we bend over backwards to help you.

    They have been given no reason to assimilate or learn the language.

    Disgusting that we have given up on our Nation. Hopefully things can change. I'd like to see a full reversal. Start small, no more bilingual accomodations. Make them need to learn as a start.
     
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    Isn't knowingly helping/encouraging someone in illegal status a felonious act? Maybe NYC is just throwing the claims out there to look good for the voters. I can't imagine them actually going through with this.
     
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    It is. Aiding anyone in the crime itself is illegal. And they're not going to this. But if by chance they go off the deep and and do, I'm sure the AG will arrest people for it.
     
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    It's been said a lot of times, require eVerify and fine/arrest employers who hire those who are here illegally and not only will the flow of illegals slow down, but some/many will leave.
     
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    Its treasonous. Considering Boston bombers and 9/11 high-jackers were illegals, I'd say they are actively working with the enemy who wishes to destroy America.

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    Democrats loved themselves so free labor with slaves, now they actively work to get cheap(er) labor through illegals.
     
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    The trouble is that too many powerful and mainly Republican interests need and desire this illegal work force so attacking those who employed these workers are just not going to happen.

    Nothing like seeing the crops rotting in the fields and construction projects slowing and the upper middle class having a hard time finding household workers.

    Those workers are here because they are needed by the same people who in public decry them being here.
     
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    I don't think you understand why cities do this. It's not to assist the illegals but to protect their own citizens. If an illegal witnesses a violent crime or of major crime or is the victim of such and doesn't come forward out of fear of their own deportation then the city and it's citizens has lost. It's the same thing with Muslims who fear calling attention to themselves not reporting terrorist activity. We want them to feel secure in coming forward, it's better for everyone.
    They aren't harboring violent criminals or other major criminals, they just aren't going to turn someone over for being a victim of a crime or a parking ticket.

    Decide how you want your resources spent, going after otherwise law abiding people or major criminals. I'd rather one rapist gets prison and then deportation than 1000 little Pepe's and their mothers get deported.
     
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    LOL one of the Boston bombers was an American citizen and the other here legally and the 911 attackers came into this nation legally as students and visitors.

    But facts are meaningless as far as Trump supporters are concern.
     
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    An interesting investigation would be to find out if these cards were then used as acceptable residency to register to vote with.
     
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    What proof do you have that they are republicans who want the illegals? The political spectrum working to secure the borders and keep illegals out is the one that needs them the most?
     
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    Sorry for butting in but Bill did not say only republicans, he included others as well, but try this out, make a map of the route migrant workers follow each year for their work and then see how many blue states they stay in.
     
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    Illegal immigration is the goose that lays the golden eggs for the Democratic Party. Expect them to defend it with whatever means necessary, legal or illegal.
     
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    huh? they themselves are criminals; do you understand the definition of the term "illegal"?
     
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    The biggest item on Congress' agenda should be to amend the 14th amendment and for the states to ratify...
     
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    And do you understand that while Trump wastes his time protecting us from Pepe and his blankie José is pushing drugs, running guns and dating your sister. Otherwise law abiding people should be at the very bottom of the list of undesirables, deal with them after you've dealt with the others.
     
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    Cut all federal aid to these Democrat led cities . Elections have consequences, now get to the back of the bus and sit tight it's gonna be a fun ride.
     
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    Demanding proof a Trump supporter demanding proof thank god for that small ray of sunlight.

    Let see Trump companies history of employing illegal workers by way of sub subcontractors in the same slightly indirect manner as Walmart and farmers might be a small start toward that proof you are demanding.

     
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    Well, for one, thanks for the update of the Boston bombers, I do appreciate learning something new.

    2nd, I am not a supporter of Trump, never was and believe he is a liberal in GOP disguise.

    3rd, my point about the 9/11 attackers being here illegally still hold weight, even if only 3 were past their visa stays. But half of the illegals in this country come in the form of people over staying their visas. This is a fact that the right knows about when they talk about how many illegals there are, but the left only focuses on the ones from the south because they are brown and the left love identity politics and throwing a race card around.
     
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    So migrant workers work for "powerful republicans?" And there are no "blue cities" in these Red states? Need I remind you that all sanctuary cities are democrat. Nothing of the original post or yours makes any proof that its "Powerful and MAINLY republicans" that keep the flood gates open for illegals to work in this country. I didn't accuse him of saying "only" republicans either.

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    Its what keeps prostitutes and drug traffickers easy targets of assault and abuse.
     
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    How about we get ALL of the illegals out of here? Lets do that.
     
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    Trump has said that his immediate goal is to take on criminality, and long term to address the rest of the illegal immigration population.
     
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    Again, I am not a Trump supporter. I asked about republicans. I have stated many times I think Trump is a liberal. Mainly because of his funding of DEMOCRATS in politics.
     
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    LOL after Trump, who wish to build a long long wall. claimed that the Mexican illegals are mainly drug dealers, rapists and other criminals with only some good people you have the nerve to claimed it the left that only focus on the southern border!!!!!!!!!!!

    We are sadly dealing with those living in an alternate reality.
     
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    OK, let me explain this to you and hopefully you can re read it over and over till it sinks in.

    I do NOT think Trump is a republican. Just like I don't think the white girl in charge of a chapter of the NAACP is black. Or that Jenner is a woman. Trump has a LONG history of supporting democrats.
     

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