Bernie Sanders : Carrier just showed corporations how to beat Donald Trump

Oh...they understand...they believe that it's the dumb white hillbillies in flyover country that cost them the election because they are not smart enough to know any better. That is truly what they believe...just go back and re-watch damn near every MSM outlet or any daytime or late night talk show. They even had a 30 minute monologue on TNT before the start of an NBA game the night after the election.

They live in a bubble. They don't talk to us common folk...it's beneath them.

 

Proof that Democrats have no concept of work


Joe Biden "J-O-B-S" is a 3 letter word?


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haha yep Ive been had! Americans keeping their jobs so I don't have pay for their welfare checks and food.
Trump not only winning but actually succeeding at making America great again before he is even sworn in is killin you guys isn't it? Hey whats gonna happen if he puts palin in a cabinet position? Can you give us a sneak peak?

 

so true. They are actually pouting that Trump saved jobs. How un-American.

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I already asked them what cost the state more in revenue....charging less taxes or getting no revenue at all. They are incapable of understanding the concept of what happens when there are no jobs.

 

1. This makes the great assumption that those workers are ALL net new employees to the state. But since we all know they aren't, then this would be wrong.

2. It makes the HUGE assumption that all of those workers will be paid a full living wage for the area they are in. Even one worker who requires government assistance thru any social program, will cost the state more money.

3. Since this company will be using public resources paid for by tax dollars, including sewer, roads, sanitation, etc, but wont be paying those taxes, the taxes will need to be raised on those who work there to pay for them.

The best example is Schools. Schools get their money from "property taxes", and that include business property taxes. But since the business isn't paying them, those very workers (and workers for other companies who live in that district) will have to pay more. David Kay Johnston points this out in his book Perfectly Legal.

If you look at both federal and state tax receipts, you will see that since Reagan, the majority of that burden has been slowly moved to the working class.

The CBO proved this out after the Bush Tax cuts, that corporate tax cuts DO NOT create jobs.

 

I thought he was going to save American manufacturing thru tariffs ? ALl of those families would have been fine with that alos. Actually they would have been better off ! THAT I supported.

Tax breaks don't work and we have empirical evidence to prove it

 

Once again ....slowly, The 1300 were already gone before Trump was even nominated much less elected. They were all slated to be gone and Trump saved 800. Are you actually complaining that he didn't save 1300 more? Like really? Ok...how many did the current President save? Ill wait for your dodge.

 

So then whats the difference between what Obama did, and what Trump did ?

Both got a gift from the Government ?

 

No.

This issue is NOT limited to these particular 800 (or ??) manufacturing workers in Indiana - employees whose jobs may or may not last for another few months.

We've got 12.25 million manufacturing workers in America. And, that's only manufacturing - there are other corporations hiring people and paying tax, too.

We've got 50 states.

We work on the basis of capitalism, with it being characteristic that state and federal legislatures pass tax law, rather than governors and presidents making one off offers to individual corporations.

 

so what you are saying is life is better for people without having a job.... Or that they are better off with a low paying service job than one which allows them to have some disposable income. you guys really are over the cuckoos nest. You better get used to being out of power. Trump has plenty of vulnerable areas but attacking him on keeping or creating jobs is going to backfire tremendously. 2016 has taught you nothing it seems

 

Yup, results for big business, not so much for jobs. Whoopee he paid this corporation 7 Mil to keep a few hundred workers...and


WHO will PAY the 7 mil? The taxpayers....

 

So the money that would have paid for that "welfare" just went to a "profitable company" and your OK with that ? Either way it was YOUR money right ? Why not be just as enraged when your money goes to someone who doesn't need it ?

Why not hold him accountable for his campaign promise of Tariffs ? THAT i supported.

 

Oh, he's punishing them for sending thousands of jobs to Mexico ( and saving 2-300 ) with a 7 Million dollar bonus......

 

ahh so people living in Indiana should pack up and move to another state rather than let them keep their current jobs. We have 12 million jobs....great and a population of over 300 million. We cant afford to lost one job.
You guy cant even admit that what Trump did was good. You prefer American to lose their jobs and I find that repulsive.
Love the may or may not what if thinking again. An asteroid may impact Indiana tomorrow too but I think Id prefer to keep working in case it doesn't...how about you?

 

what offer did he make. link please. BTW it was Mike Pence who is the governor there that worked the deal for trump


BTW guess you think Cuomo is a bad guy too, or are you a just hypocrite ?


HOME / DOING BUSINESS IN NY / TAX-BASED INCENTIVES

Tax credits and incentives give New York State businesses a competitive edge

You’ll find all forms of tax incentives, business incentives and tax credits in New York State, all designed to benefit small or expanding businesses as well as film and TV production companies.

 

What part of this is confusing. They are keeping their own money and using that to employ Americans. If they are unemployed we have to pay their welfare. Yeah Im perfectly fine with taxing companies less so they remain here and employ American who in turn pay the state revenue as opposed to alternative which is them leaving entirely and the state getting no revenue at all and the rest of the tax payers paying for more people on welfare. Arent you? Which part of that sounds bad to you?

 

Read what I posted. Thats not what I said at all.

You make a TON of assumptions on this deal. Please show me where those jobs will create the "disposable" income you claim.

Just because someone "creates a job" does not mean it is an addition to the economy. All you have to do is look at the move of income AND wealth to the top to see that it took more than "jobs" to create that movement of wealth and income to the top. It took more than just lower wages, it was mainly facilitated by shifting the tax burden to the working class. If with one hand you give someone a dollar, and with the other hand you take 2, they have less money.

 

Oh, please.

I'm just asking what the policy is going to be going forward.

I've never seen a president decide he wants to strong arm corporations or administer taxes by forgiving the state taxes of a single corporation like that.

 

Holy crap man........YOU are still paying the same subsidy. Only now instead of it going to a "welfare recipient" its going to a multimillion dollar corporation. but YOU STILL PAID THE SAME SUBSIDY !!!!!

 

Tax incentives in NY were available to those who applied.

Can any company in Indiana apply for a $7,000 per employee tax break?

If I say I'm going to do manufacturing in some other country do I get to have a sit-down with Trump or Pence to discuss what I get?

 

sure you did. You seem to think that people are better off with no job or a low paying job. You Dems have absolutely lost your mind over this. The man won on JOBS, people voted for him because of his stance on JOBS, he did what the people elected him to do and saved their JOBS. Stop and think for a minute...there wil be blacks, whites, hispanics, christian, non christian, women and men who will have a paycheck now not a unemployment check. And you guys are screaming how horrible that is, talk about fighting the wrong battle. That (*)(*)(*)(*) speaks to everyone, I expect that in 2018 there will be 60+ GOP in the Senate because you the Dems just keep running to the left no matter how many times the electorate in major portions of the country say stop

 

Sure. In SC we regularly give tax incentives for companies to build or expand as do most states

http://www.stateincentives.org/

 

I know its called making America Great again. We haven't seen it in a long time.

 

Yep, nothing is Obama's fault. Why I bet it was Bush's fault for Obamacare.

 

As I have pointed out, all states give tax incentives every year to corporations and Mike Pence who led the negotiations doe just happen to be the States Governor. So his entire statement was a fabrication