We are now hearing disturbing rumors

We are now hearing disturbing rumors that Russia supported the presidential candidate that did not want to go to war with Russia.

Isnt that what democrats are saying now? Anyone here want to defend that, and dont democrats appear dumb saying that.

 

There is zero proof Russia supported Trump. This is all made up crap by sore losers.

 

You mean the CIA? LOL!

 

I think they supported the candidate that would be far more willing to concede the Middle East to Russia and recognize their unlawful annexation of the Crimea. Don't remember any talk of going to war with Russia.

 

This is disturbing indeed. We should be doing what the democrats want which is to have a nuclear war with Russia. Getting along with other nuclear nations peacefully!? This is an outrage. How dare trump allow Russia to hack us while Obama was and still is the guy that is supposed to be preventing us from being hacked.
Why Trump was allowed us to get hacked by Russia is an outrage. How he bypassed Obamas elite team of national defense is another thing that should be investigated. I mean Trump did this right under Obamas nose and Obama was completely clueless. Even he doesn't know how Trump did this and is calling for investigations. We should be bush bombing Russia as we speak....this is an outrage!

 

This is whats left of the liberal democrats. Fake News and Russia did it, caused Hillary to lose. That's really how pathetically low they have reached. In my wildest dreams I never thought they would take being beaten by Trump like pathetic spoiled brats stomping their feet.
Its so entertaining for me, its the best Christmas ever! I wonder whats after Russia and Fake News doesn't work for them? And when are those actors moving? Lets not forget those chumps need to get out of our country like they promised.

 

The CIA admits that they have no evidence which the FBI agrees with. The CIA only inferred it.

 

Doombug, its true, the left heard it from a guy, whos cousin heard it from his girlfriends brother who had an uncle who works at the CIA.

 

There is no evidence.

The only reason the Russians were mentioned is because of the type of malware used in the attack. Apparently they've used it before, or it is perhaps Russian built.

This by no means means the Russian GOVERNMENT had anything to do with it, even if it WAS a Russian hacker. There are plenty of hackers out there that are completely unaffiliated with their own governments.

Additionally, what anyone has failed to explain is this:

How did the alleged hacking affect the election, and how did it specifically benefit Trump?

 

They know it was Russian a couple of russian hacking groups associated with the Russian government. They are inferring that a Russian hacking group known to work for the Russian government is continuing to work for the Russian government.

 

NO one wanted a nuclear war with Russia.. In fact the only candidate to talk about nukes at all was Trump.

excerpt:

Another senior military officer, a Mattis partisan, adds that the new secretary of defense’s real problem “will not be in the building” but in the White House, where Michael Flynn, Trump’s new national security adviser (and a retired three-star Army officer), has made it clear that he doesn’t want to be outranked. “And by a Marine? Good God, that’s going to be entertaining,” this officer says, a remark reflecting the often bumpy infighting between the two services.

But the harshest criticism comes from those wary of Mattis’ Iran animus. “He’s not a neo-con,” the senior Pentagon civilian official said, “so we’re not going to have a new Rumsfeld or [Paul] Wolfowitz running around here, but his views on Islam strike me as perverse. This whole thing about ISIS and Iran is just wrong, but that’s not even the point. We’re going to find out who this guy really is when someone who’s just as smart tells him he’s full of (*)(*)(*)(*). And on ISIS and Iran, believe me, he’s full of (*)(*)(*)(*).”

Mattis partisans make sound arguments too. They point out that while the warrior monk worries about Iran, he’s argued against scrapping Obama’s Iran nuclear arms agreement—a point of view at odds with what Trump has said. Mattis has also come out against the use of torture, telling Trump that giving terrorists a couple of beers and a pack of cigarettes works better than waterboarding. And Mattis, who talks tough, was a commander who insisted his troops treat Iraqis with respect, to the point of counseling his commanders on the proper way to respect Muslim customs, a position in stark contrast to his statements on what he bitingly describes as the dangers of “political Islam.”

Mattis partisans also repeat the well-worn but debatable belief that having seen the face of war, former military officers rarely recommend it as a course of action. Which is simply to conclude that seared by the vision of Marines fighting street by street in Fallujah—library or no library—Mattis will meet his real test when, on some dark night, an Iranian speedboat purposely (or accidentally) fires on an American destroyer and President Trump gives the order to “bomb the hell out of them.” The test then, the real test of leadership, will be whether Mattis says, “Yes, sir, Mr. President …” or whether he nods and says, “Yes, sir, Mr. President, but ….” In truth, and in light of the contradictory evidence at hand, we simply have no idea what, at that crucial moment, he will say.

But we’re about to find out.

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/12/james-mattis-iran-secretary-of-defense-214500

 

It's a good thing we have a chief executive now who knows how to appoint the right people. The last eight years of disastrous lack of secure data and email more or less invited anyone with an internet connection to read classified docs. Blame it on the Russians if you want but we know where the blame really lies.

 

The CIA hasn't said Russia supported Trump, that was Chuck Todd.

 

No they inferred that they helped Trump win.

The FBI states there is no evidence that they helped him

 

Please provide a link to your claim.

 

I can't wait until Trump cleans out all the partisan hacks out of our elite agencies.

 

No, I mean the dems that are inventing "facts". Once again dems and the liberal media are interpreting info in a way to spin a phony narrative.

 

Seems in Russia's interest to not have a pointless war with America. They, also, just might be taking credit for someone else's deed.

 

Crimea is always the sticking point.

http://tass.com/defense/917920

US Senate prohibits defense cooperation with Russia

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Limited Cooperation

According to the bill, any defense cooperation with Moscow will be limited until the Secretary of Defense, in coordination with the Secretary of State, "provides a certification" that Russia stopped "to illegally occupy Crimea, to foster instability in Ukraine, and to maintain an aggressive posture towards its regional neighbors." In addition, US lawmakers insist on full implementation of the Minsk accords and a ceasefire agreement for southeastern Ukraine.

"Bilateral military-to-military cooperation is unwarranted so long as Russia continues its aggressive and intimidating behavior towards U.S. partners and allies in Europe," the bill reads.

The defense coopeation has not been halted completely, however. For example, the bill envisages funds to purchase 18 Russian-made RD-180 rocket engines to equip Atlas-V carrier rockets.

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Of course, as always they're ignoring a great many mitigating factors, focusing instead on a very selective and literal interpretation to international law. This from a government that has no qualms about marching into foreign countries and toppling their governments as it deems convenient and arming insurgent groups...

 

Damned liberal inferences.

In Oct, 17 intelligence agencies agreed [the head of all agencies declared] that Russia was behind the hacks. And there is a clear bias in favor of Trump in the information released. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to connect the dots. The only real questions are, how much of a role did they play and is the new American Communist Party going to do anything about it?

Or have you all sold out to Putin already?

 

None of the Democrats that I know supported a candidate who wanted to go to war period. Therefore none of thecDemocratic candidates wanted war with Russia. Do you have any quotes from a candidate who wanted to go to war with Russia?

 

There was only one thing that affected the outcome of the presidential election. That was the words and actions of Donald Trump. His political incorrectness won votes and his defense of those who have lost jobs due to factory movement to other countries won votes. His cruder comments and womanizing history lost him votes. In the end his ups outweighed his downs so he won. Hillary's multi-million dollar attack ads and Russian manipulation efforts had no impact. Specifically in spite of Trump's many perceived deficiencies he was still a better candidate than Hillary.
Hillary's nearly 3 million popular vote advantage over Trump came almost entirely from one state that was California. California went overwhelmingly democratic because Governor Brown has been extremely successful in turning California state government's fiscal disaster into a financial success. Because of those successes Californians right now have a very positive impression of the Democratic Party. The vote margin for Clinton in California was 4.3 million votes ! This represents Clinton's entire popular vote margin. In other words without Brown's successes in California Clinton would have probably lost the popular vote. This outcome also shows why the writers of the US Constitution created the Electoral College system. They did not want the Presidency to be determined by one or two large population states outvoting the other states. They wanted the candidate to win who had the broadest appeal on a national level.

 

The LICE Trump is so far up Putin's ass that he woukd recognize Russia's annexation of the Crimea.

 

But Trump is not dumb enough to let Iran have nukes like obama.

 

Democrats are relying on their own rumors now.....too bad. As a member of the left wing, however, I am a little giddy with the prospects of the final collapse of the Dollar National Collectors