Trump mocks Russian hacking 'conspiracy theory'

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  1. yardmeat

    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    I've already provided links. Sorry, but the intelligence community was not unified on this.
     
  2. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    OK, why can't you name who believed what you believe?

    Tenet who was then in charge of gathering foreign intel was asked at a cabinet meeting if he was 100 percent positive there was WMD, and by Bush himself no less.

    Bush was informed it is positive, saying it is a slam dunk.
     
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    Yes, he was, but the intelligence community was not unified. Again, see previous links.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You have yet to define what you mean by intelligence community. The CIA informed Bush, and they should know, that there is WMD.

    This is only over intelligence inside of Iraq and that had to be extremely difficult to learn.
     
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    Never underestimate the ability of the hyperliberal, radical Left to fabricate all kinds of fraudulent crap designed merely to alter public opinions.

    You live in Texas? Then you ought to be able to easily remember the fraudulent lawsuits that a gaggle of Travis County scumbag Democrats leveled against Rick Perry, destroying any hope he had of gaining the Republican presidential nomination in 2016. The whole rotten, fraudulent thing was thrown out of court last February, but it stands as a shining example of just how stinking low radical Democrats will go in order to promote their own groundless, toxic propaganda.

    You want to make an enemy out of the Russian Federation for no good reason? Fine! But if you want to carve off a piece of Russia's ass, you'd better be able to chew what you "bite off", and, they have a mouth full of sharp teeth, too....

    [​IMG]. Russian steak knives....
     
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    The CIA was not unified. See previous links.
     
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    Trump is right about one thing. Every week the DNC has a new excuse on why they lost. One day they might admit the truth which is their platform sucked. People are more concerned about the economy than whether Uncle Pervy can take his showers in the guirls locker room. Note to Dems - people regardless of color sexual orientation religion or number of X chromosomes all want the same things for their families. Trump spoke to those wants and that is why he won
     
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    HB Surfer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This Liberal crybaby bull(*)(*)(*)(*) is hilarious. What are they really pissed off about?

    SOMEONE? Someone got in and hacked information that by law was PUBLIC INFORMATION in the first place. They shared with us, what we should have known in the first place. They exposed how damn dirty the Clinton machine was, which Conservatives have been telling everyone, but was confirmed without a doubt.

    The scary part is that even with that information we still had some truly (*)(*)(*)(*)ed in the head individuals touting Hillary Clinton as a good person to be president.
     
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    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    I don't doubt that in the least and I'm sure we can come up with other examples. None of that changes the hypocrisy I was ridiculing. Trump peddles conspiracy theories like there is no tomorrow, to a greater extent than any other politician I can think of, and whines when he finds himself the target of one. Sorry, but it is still funny.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If you mean BBC and the other link, those do not prove anything.

    From the second link where Durbin was whining ...

    5 Democrats voted for the war. They saw all that Durbin saw. 4 did vote no, but they nearly always tried to block Bush.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Democrats are whining that they got beat by the Russians. And they won't name names nor show us statements including names either. And you are not a bit puzzled by how the Democrats are operating?
     
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    Owned by...
     
  12. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The media is all in for Hillary and has been from day one.

    Notice when the story came out over yellow cake.

    Bush said he got it from England. The Media acted as if Bush was the source.

    Bush said Africa. The Media translated it to Nigeria then cited Joe Wilson a private party as the source.

    Amazing stuff

    And more, Richard Armitage told Novak about Valerie Plame. Scooter Libby was prosecuted. More amazing stuff.
     
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    Both links report dissent within intelligence sources.

    Yes. It is puzzling. How does that change what I said again? Or are people just going to keep deflecting from that?
     
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    I'd caution you not to be so quick to call this meddling situation fabricated or fraudulent.

    Putin hates Hillary Clinton.

    Sanctions, over Russian aggression in Ukraine, Crimea, and going back to Georgia, have hurt Russia economically. Russia depends on selling fossil fuel for much of its economy. With the help of Saudis flooding the market with oil, prices are down. A natural gas pipeline through Syria to Europe would help Russia. However, Qatar wants to do the same thing and asked Saudi Arabia for help. Obviously, Russia wants to stop a Qatar pipeline.

    America is weary of sending our sons and daughters to die in wars over cheap gasoline. So, we now have a "religious extremist" war in Syria. Oddly enough, Russian interventions in Syria don't seem to target the religious extremists, but rather keep a Russian ally in power. That's not accidental.

    Watergate taught us to follow the money. This is about Russian hegemony and money, not about Trump. The DNC was hacked more than a year before the election, well before Trump was the nominee. The Russians wanted to hurt Clinton's chances to be elected, and even if she was, to cast doubt and lessen her ability to lead. No matter the opposition, Russia wanted to hurt Clinton.

    If sanctions end without Russia leaving Ukraine, Putin is in the cat bird seat. Mitch McConnell said this morning, "Russia is not our friend." While I don't really care for Senator McConnell much, he's right and we need to listen. This attempt to influence our election needs to be investigated so, moving forward, the American people have confidence in one of our most sacred institutions, the free election of our leader.

    https://www.rt.com/business/369827-gas-ukraine-russia-penalty/

    https://sputniknews.com/business/201612091048379467-ukraine-russia-gas/

    http://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/The-Natural-Gas-War-Burning-Under-Syria.html
     
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    I'm no birther mind you, but anyone that thinks personal records can't be manufactured, altered and created is living in the past! I mean really! Here we are discussing Russian hacking, manipulation of the U.S. election cycle and 9 times out of ten these same accusers and deniers will mock you for suggesting a birth certificate could be falsified :) Even a dirt poor undocumented Latino with a 4th grade education know better than that ;)
     
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    Do YOU believe in all the "Blame Russia" we are inundated with from
    the White House to the News Media editorials passing as News?
    Do YOU?

    I Don't.
    American bombs hit a hospital and we initially hear, "Blame Russia". True.
    And on it goes.

    Trump is correct.
    The intelligence community has been singing, Blame Russia far to long with far too many oopsies
    we might only find verified on page 25, not page 1 as initially broadcast.

    And that boys and girls
    is why YOU should also read/watch a NOT Western Media source.
    I do miss Al Jazeera but, RT does cover stories ignored by the West and can be verified online.
    Choice of stories is a form of News media censorship and to that end -
    ABC = CBS = NBC = Fox = BBC = PBS = etc.
    Gone are the days when each had their own, "News Department" independent from the corporation.
    Anyone else miss, Walter Cronkite? Gone are the days when these agencies had real, investigative journalism and would compete to be the first to break a story.
    Why, gone?
    1) Money.
    2) Don't lose your seat at the White House press room.

    Al Jazerra use to have and RT does have investigative journalism half hour programs dedicated to special subjects worthy
    of an Edward R. Morrow (ref. "Harvest of Shame") Award for News Excellence.
    Seems like Western Media, Inc. just reads off the same teletype today since no one has a real, News dept.

    Yes, Trump is correct to chastise the intelligence community for lack of proof and
    too much editorializing with a "Blame Russia" game.


    Moi :oldman:

    r > g


    This is the last production of the American News Network.
    Makes y'wonder.

    [video=youtube;XEaFLdK_e64]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEaFLdK_e64&t=2s[/video]​
     
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    You gotta love it.

    While Hillary, the WaPo et al are whining about fake news, they concoct the whole fake Russian hacking meme, which Obama is dutifully investigating before he leaves office.

    While this may look like a purely partisan political issue, it really is an attempt to further control the media so that we are all duly brainwashed.

    This aspect is much more sinister than any partisan political game that is being played.
     
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    I read both links.

    Is the CIA ever unified? Are they unified the Russians hacked just the DNC?
     
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    No, they aren't. In fact, some are saying that the RNC was hacked as well but that only info from the DNC was actually leaked, hence why they think it is suspicious. That sort of uncertainty is why you don't see me peddling the same theories.

    Returning to my original claim, Trump peddles looney conspiracy theories all of the time. China invented global warming! Millions of illegals voted! Obama born in Kenya! Cruz's dad killed Kennedy! Obama wears a Muslim ring! ISIS sent someone after me! And the hits just keep coming. And now he cries uncle. Comedy (*)(*)(*)(*)ing gold.
     
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    If Russia had anything to do with exposing the corruption in the democrat run and operated federal government I would really like to thank them for their help.

    Of course Russia had nothing to do with it, but whoever did is a hero.
     
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    Wait, haven't you said before that Alex Jones is right about everything? And this is where you draw the line? Really?
     
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    I never said Jones was right about everything, I said he was right about most things. Only reason for that is because he covers issues the media wont touch because the issues expose democrats as the fascist corrupt trash they are. So the MSM wants nothing to do with that.


    It's blatantly obvious Russia had nothing to do with this..... Of course Hillary was only pushing that narriative because she being the war hawk she is wants to go to war with Russia. Of course her minions cheered her on and are STILL blaming Russia.

    Funny how the progressive blame everyone but themselves for their corruption, fascist and terrible failing agenda that is designed to keep people poor and dependent on government.

    Besides, at this point it doesn't matter who hacked the DNC er Hillary - we have the information and the only thing that matters is the information because that information NEEDED to be exposed - the people have every right to know that a cadidate that was running for president was a criminal and a fascist......
     
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    I agree about the world being better off with information exposed, though I have no doubt the RNC is hiding just as many gems, just perplexed about the standard of evidence being used.
     
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    The RNC is too incompetent to be that corrupt - not only that but the second there was even a slight smell of corruption the DNC would go in full blown investigation mode.

    Have you not figured that out yet? that democrats can get away with murder and republicans are held to almost god-like standards?

    I think a lot of repubicans (at least the never Trump repubicans) er RINO's are just as trashy as the progressives - because after all they are progressives - they just have an (R) after their name that means absolutely nothing to them.
     
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    Strange commentary for certain.

    The path to Europe from Russia does not cross Syria.

    It would be smart for those same Americans to learn our sources of gasoline.

    We primarily supply our own. Canada is next to supply crude oil. Anyway, it is not the ME.

    Bottom line from your own claims is this.

    http://www.politico.eu/article/why-putin-hates-hillary/
     

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