Republicans plan to reintroduce Anti-LGBT ‘religious freedom’ bill supported by Trump

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  1. MrNick

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    This isn't a petty issue - not when progressives use force it's not.

    Not when bakers are being sued and charged with nonsense for practicing their religion it's not petty.
     
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    I agree with this, but I also think that anyone who's likely to have issues doing business with others due to some irrelevant aspect of that person (as in irrelevant to their money - which is the same as everyone else's), should probably not engage in customer service type business. I would submit that business is the last place such a person should be.
     
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    Well if this legislation fails the States can declare themselves "sanctuary for Christians". That is how the left is able to pick and choose laws to enforce.
     
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    That's totally different. Muzzies have special freedoms. Based on fear and hugs.
     
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    It's not going to fail.

    If it fails now, it will pass in the next congress.

    Lets not forget tho that not all democrats are progressive. You can bet there are plenty of democrats that would back this bill.
     
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    As for selective enforcement...
    Imagine the screams from the left if GWB refused to enforce the federal 'assault weapon' ban in states that did not have a ban of their own.
     
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    Except that that isn't the case, is it? Needing an imagined scenario (of white domination of all business) to make your argument work, tells us all we need to know about the argument.
     
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    Depending on the business, you can legally discriminate against that.
     
  9. MrNick

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    No one is saying not to serve gays (that would just be a terrible business model)....... The problem is that some people don't want to be involved in their weddings for religious reasons. That is a perfectly respectable line to draw and it should be respected.

    Whats next?

    If a gay invites you to a wedding and you say no because you're opposed to homosexuality does that mean the people getting married can sue?

    Because that's what progressives are pretty much implying.

    It's crazy.
     
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    i wonder how these people will feel if muslims dont do their work because of religious beliefs
     
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    yeah it is. time to grow up and do your job.
     
  12. MrNick

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    No it's not petty.

    It's disgusting that we need to pass a law to reaffirm the First Amendment tho.

    What's petty is crying when you're not served, what's petty is trying to FORCE people to adhere to your personal politics.. Yea that is petty.
     
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    The right is sending gays to college? Sorry, I showed up late and was commenting on the OP.
     
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    Colleges in general are reeducation camps.
     
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    So you can take away my religious freedom to "protect" yours ?

    This is a slippery slope. You can claim it not all you want, but it will become one and you know it. When someone says "my religion says I dont" have to server people of a different color, creed, gender, will that be protected as a religious right ?
     
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    From the OP's link....

    "Citing “momentum” from the November elections, Republicans are once against eyeing a bill that would allow corporations and individuals who object to same-sex marriage on religious grounds to deny goods or services to gay people, Buzzfeed News reports."

    HUH? I almost stopped reading this idiotic article right there.
     
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    Some already do. I don't remember hearing too many progressives complaining about Muslims refusing service to people who have alcohol or guide dogs with them.
     
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    Please describe a situation in which that would happen.

    Didn't know being gay was a religion.
     
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    Obama abused his power and forced us to buy a product under the guise of "Affordable health care" My rates doubled. Government overreach has a limit. I believe that Trump was elected because it reached a tipping point.

    If Trump would like to hand a victory back to the left, he should go forward with this as well as reversing gay marriage, and abortion rights.
     
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    All I have to do is create a "religion". All a religion is is a "belief system".

    Be honest, this isn't about Freedom of Religion, its freedom of your religion. Why is taking away someones "rights" in the name of your "rights" acceptable. Who is actually loosing the right ?

    You honestly don't think that someone will use this to discriminate ?
     
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    Trump won because progressive policy is nasty and has caused so much trouble socially, yet Trump is supposed to continue with the progressive policies?

    I think not.

    Progressive policies got us where we are today.... Riots, safe spaces, people making demands, fascism - it's all screwed up.

    BTW, abortion should be illegal. It's first degree murder at it's finest.
     
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    No you can't just "create" a religion.

    Do you have any idea how many people have tried that? you think you're the first person to think of that to get away with nonsnse?

    And yes, my rights trump your rights if you're asking me to bake you a (*)(*)(*)(*)ing cake.

    I'm not obliged to do anything for you.
     
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    Then that is the perfect opportunity for "gamewell45 bakery" to open up shop right across the street and take all the $$$ from the bakery who refuses business based on beliefs whether religious or otherwise. As a small business owner I don't refuse business to anybody who has $$$ and is willing to pay.
     
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    Most people will not refuse business because it would be a terrible business model.

    Not to mention no one has been refused business for being gay - they were refused catering to their gay event which I would do too if I had to work the event.

    Think about it. How do you know who is gay and who isn't? it's not like gays walk around with signs that say "I'm gay".....
     
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    Somehow I suspect the federal demand that men can use women's bathrooms and teenage boys can demand to shower with, compete with and share motel rooms with girls on overnight school outings isn't going to endure.
     
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