CIA Refuses To Hand Over So-called Proof of Russian Hacking To Help Trump

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  1. Wehrwolfen

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    "DISINFORMATION!" cries Congressman Peter King as claim Russian hackers helped elect Trump falls apart.

    By Matthew Vadum
    12/14/16


    The absolutely incredible claim from the Central Intelligence Agency that Russian hackers somehow put Donald Trump over the top in the election is falling apart.

    Both the Office of the Director of National Intelligence (ODNI), which oversees all the U.S. intelligence agencies, and the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) reject the CIA’s analysis.

    And now Rep. Peter King (R-N.Y.) just said on Fox News Channel [http://www.mediaite.com/tv/peter-ki...ying-out-anti-trump-disinformation-campaign/] a few minutes ago that the Central Intelligence Agency is refusing to hand over whatever evidence it may have about Russian wrongdoing.


    The CIA has a long track record both for lying and breathtaking incompetence

    “It’s almost as if people in the intelligence community are carrying out a disinformation campaign against the president-elect of the United States. It’s absolutely disgraceful.”

    King, by the way, is a member of the Homeland Security Committee [http://peteking.house.gov/about/full-biography] and chairman of the Sub-Committee on (Counter Terrorism and Intelligence). He also serves on the Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence.

    Could it be the CIA — which employs more than a few Trump haters — doesn’t actually have any evidence? If they have proof they should cough it up. But they refuse.

    Instead, CIA officials keep leaking to the media.

    These people can’t be trusted. The CIA has a long track record both for lying and breathtaking incompetence. [http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/265123/russian-hacking-hysteria-matthew-vadum]

    This talk of a Russian conspiracy to hack U.S. computer networks to put Trump in the White House has always been difficult to believe.

    Read more: http://canadafreepress.com/article/...called-proof-of-russian-hacking-to-help-trump

    For the last eight years the CIA has been in control and in the hands of Barack Hussein Obama II. Since Brennan took over the CIA it appears that all intelligence has been tainted and the falsehoods, and complete disinformation.
    There is no finding and there is a leak from the top Brennan is behind this at the order of Obama...
     
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    Of course they wont, it was more fake news generated by the Obama regime
     
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    What is most interesting about all of this is that they are claiming that Russia was behind it, and maybe they are right, but they have no proof and what is even more telling than that, they are not claiming that what was revealed was falsified.

    So, what they are basically saying is that someone told the American people the truth about Hillary and that hurt her election campaign, and we think it was Russia!

    We should overturn the election because it wasn’t fair that America knew the truth!
     
  4. Wehrwolfen

    Wehrwolfen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There has been an effort to undermine the legitimacy of Trump's election by the Progressive Socialists since election day that is actually much more than sour grapes over the loss of the election. It is far too well coordinated and too well orchestrated among elements of the Democrat Party, the media, the entertainment industry and yes, elements of the Republican Party. The efforts to thwart the will of the American people and overturn this election are very real and there are clear indications that even elements inside the government are taking sides, as witnessed by the CIA's overt refusal to brief the House Intelligence Committee and the fact that the real source of the leaked emails is probably elements within the US Government. At this point, it's just not clear who's on what side, but I'm certain that what is going on is nothing less than sedition. I don’t think most Americans understand just how close we’ve come to losing everything that America stands for.
     
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    Isn't it strange that the NY Times talks about a swell of evidence that proves that Russia was behind hacking the DNC, but Congress can not see that supposed evidence? Is the NY Times making up stories again? Or have they seen why CIA is denying Congress?
     
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    Are you saying that the New York Slimes is manufacturing "Fake" news?
     
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    Hey! I asked you first!
     
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    The CIA is clearly trying to interfere in the electoral process.
     
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    It is the same thing as with Gore. After eight years of DNC control, they do not want to turn over control to the GOP. In 2000, it was the "hanging chad". In 2016, it a factitious Russian influence. The reasoning is the same, they are not willing to admit their ideas have been rejected by the majority of the country. Frankly, I find it completely pathetic.
     
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    I for one don't see much more coming from all this except weeks & weeks of rehashing "what if" speculation & claims "our democratic process is under attack" coming from the left. The EC is going to flip and it looks like the CIA/FBI isn't going to release anything worthwhile, either, not even to Congress. So, in the end what we'll end up with the alt-left pissed off at everything Trump tries to do and right trying to do it. Gee, what a surprise.
     
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    There was even some nonsense with Reagan, right? Over fears of what his policies might entail? Yeah, they don't like to lose and invariably make trouble when they do.

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    I don't think they can be called alt-left. The wackos are far too mainstream for that now. The whole DNC is headed that way.
     
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    The answer is a definite YES!. The Progressives elitists, DNC and the Lame Stream Media are trying to deligitimize Trump before he is inugurated. Just as they did with Bush.
     
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    I hate to be the one to inform you, but their objective is much worse then that. Their attempting to pull victory from the jobs of defeat. If they can get enough electoral delegates to buy this conspiracy, then they will cast their votes for Hillary instead of Trump. All they have to do is keep up the ruse until next Monday. That is when the Electors meet to cast their votes. After that, they can admit the real facts of the case. The fact that a disgruntle DNC employee gave everything to Wikileaks. The whole Russia claim is nothing but a smoke screen so they can steal this election. Just like they tried to do in 2000.
     
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    Ha ha. I know, and it is a circus of the absurd. The truth comes out, the truth hurts Hillary, and then Russia is blamed, for telling people the truth, using their own words from emails. It is not fair when the people know the truth about a candidate. The people do not need to know who they are voting for. And if someone tells them the truth, it has to be the evil nation of Russia. Darth Vader.

    Except assange who is not in a habit of lying for a living like the CIA told us that Russia was not his source. So, there is the truth here, and the CIA leaks are disinformation, a specialty of the CIA. Question is...what is their motive? Just obsessed with their great enemy, Russia? Perhaps a core within the CIA thinks trump will ease up on Russia and he might try to do deals with them? And they do not want anyone dealing with Russia? I think this is a good bet to make.
     
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    THAT was the kind of BS claim that kept Obama FROM announcing this prior to the election.

    Lovely that Trumpers want to sacrifice CIA assets and sources because they don't LIKE what they're being told is FACT
     
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    Amazing that Trumpers don't demand to know Assange's sources but want the CIA to expose theirs...
     
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    Didn't Julian say their source was an insider in the DNC? Probably that poor guy that died of sudden lead poisoning.
     
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    What's a fact?
     
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    That was my first thought as well...that story seemed awful fishy.
     
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    Not sources, Just the EVIDENCE!
     
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    And THAT kind of nonsense is why Trumpers are so likely to believe fake news

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    Hey genius...you want NAMES...
     
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    I have never read or heard any Trump supporter stating they do not want Assange to reveal his source. He has stated is was not the Russians, so you wouldn't believe him anyway. Nor have a read any Trump supporters saying they do not want the CIA to release the basis of their claim. In addition, no one currently with the CIA has even actually made the claim. Rather is is based upon one unnamed source saying someone with the CIA this unnamed source will not name said so.

    That is as credible as if I was quoted as an unnamed source stating someone I will not name hired an assassin to try to murder Trump - and then every newspaper and media outlet reporting that Clinton hired an assassination against Trump as proven fact.

    The sobbing and rantings by some Democrats that they won't get their Cold War that Hilary Clinton wanted is interesting.
     

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