Far-right wave sweeping Europe

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  1. trucker

    trucker Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    [​IMG]:omfg:
    looks like the EU egg is cracking open still, but will a ugly duckling Vulture from the past emerge from it :eekeyes: only time will tell europe has been ducking their out of control immigration problem way to long and the pressure of the melting pot is close to blowing the lid clear through the ceiling.
    http://www.thehansindia.com/posts/i...6-12-16/Far-right-wave-sweeping-Europe/268973
     
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    Its funny that, in Germany at least, Merkel's actions have created the exact type of climate which previously gave rise to Hitler.

    Shes's even admitted to as much so obviously she recognizes that what she is doing is disastrous.

    Of course none of what Hitler did with his power can be defended.

    But consider the pre-war, pre-genocide, pre-nutjob, days where Hitler was able to come into power because Germany was rotting from the inside out the the German government was doing nothing about it.

    Germans wanted a nation that was theirs and they wanted that nation to be strong and in the desperation of having neither of those things they turned to a guy who promised both in spades.
     
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    But Merkel can't do otherwise, she has to try to keep the EU alive and cater to the big financial elite. Tell me what course of action Merkel could take right now that would save the EU and reverse fascism in Europe? Apart from massive change to the EU itself (which she isn't inclined to do, nor does she alone have the power to do), she is going to keep on towing the neo-liberal line, extend-and-pretend the debt, etc.
     
  4. trucker

    trucker Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    border control and a reversal of the immigrants, that are draining there social services.
    https://www.osw.waw.pl/en/publikacj...conomic-consequences-migration-crisis-germany
     
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    But the rise of fascism in Europe isn't reducible to the influx of immigrants. Really here you use the same logic as the fascists themselves. It's like saying Nazism could have been reversed if only Jews hadn't occupied quite so many positions in finance and the civil-service in 1930s Germany.
     
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    trucker Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    but Europe was squeezing Germany for retribution payment for ww#1 and help feed the flames of Nazism back then:blankstare:.

    so like today the mass immigrants are dissolving the social old culture languages structure of Germany and other countries in Europe today
     
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    Well definitely WW2 was in a big way caused by the treaty of versailles and all that for sure.
    I think we will have to politely disagree on immigrants dissolving old cultures. Insofar as old cultures are being dissolved, it's thanks mostly to the effects of global international capital and so on. I don't see any immigrants where I live in the UK dissolving the English language. And frankly, what old social culture? And why should I give a toss about some old social culture whatever it is. I worked all day and spent my night on the internet, is that the social culture you're referring to?
     
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    what about inter action with others Brits say at restaurants pubs etc,here in the usa you cant even have a conversion in the big citys without speaking Spanish or other languages..its like a tower of babble/ babel[​IMG]confusion
     
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    Well the American Latino population is pretty big, we don't really have anything comparable in the UK. I can have perfectly good conversation in English with most immigrants I meet. I see your point, but I'm not sure what the big deal is?
     
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    Or, maybe they were a people who were badly beaten and gladly followed a guy who pointed his finger at the culprits. Maybe they were just people who failed to come to terms with their own failures but had to blame the demon. And keep blaming the demon. And develop a hatred for the demon.

    It can happen anywhere.
     
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    For some people, the issue is really economic fears projected on Mexicans as the symbol in the US. I think for many Americans though it is a rebellion against the snobbery of the left who think anybody who owns a gun or a Bible are scum, or anybody who lives outside the big blue media centers is trying to have as many kids with their sister as they can. I would say the two more recent bookends would be Obama talking about people clinging to guns and bibles because they have nothing else and Hillary calling the same people deplorables. People work really really hard and will do what they have to do to get by, but once they feel like they are being mocked for it, they are going to push back.
     
  12. Sharpie

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    Can I just say --
    Not all cultures are compatible. Not that one is good and one is bad, just that they are not able to maintain calm and stability when their beliefs are in direct conflict.

    It's absurd to think the incompatibility is the fault of one side or another -- it's absurd to think everyone should just live together. Sharia types need to stay in their own world, and western types need to be allowed to enjoy their culture without having people take a dump on them.
     
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    Certainly Germany had legitimate concerns and grievances in the interwar period. Obviously the Nazis were a very wrong solution to those, but.. Now, yes, we have a Germany again in turmoil. The Nazis were also the product of a very different time, though, and I don't expect to see anything quite that despicable take over in Germany again. Their situation isn't that bad, after all, and they now have that ugly history to look back on as a guide for how not to proceed today.
     
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    This is true... People with too fundamentally different views tend to separate into their respective enclaves to find peace. America has a rich history of this - just look at the Mormons! Gathered in Utah and still predominate there. Or look at how we were first settled - by religious people chased out of England! Absolutely it's a problem throwing very different cultures/religions/whatevs together and telling them all to integrate.
     
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    Good to see. Europeans need to fight back against what is happening to their race, culture, and countries before it is too late.
     
  16. truth and justice

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    European race? Could you define the characteristics of that race
     
  17. Gaius_Marius

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    Haha... Picture of Nazi saluting morons and you post "good to see".
    Priceless. What is it with Americans and their Nazi love affair?
     
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    Their race is Caucasian. Caucasians actually originated there. You knew that already.

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    Good to see not all of Europe has succumbed to Marxism. Yep, good to see.
     
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    So your world is made up of Marxists and Nazis? Explains a lot.
    Well... I'll let you Nazi on then.
     
  20. truth and justice

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    You mean these people? : In the racial classification developed by 19th-century anthropologists, Caucasian (or Caucasoid) included peoples whose skin colour ranged from light (in northern Europe) to dark (in parts of North Africa and India).

    Or are you writing about the Caucacus mountains? :
    It includes Southwestern Russia and northern parts of Georgia and Azerbaijan. The Transcaucasus is bordered on the north by Russia, on the west by the Black Sea and Turkey, on the east by the Caspian Sea, and on the south by Iran. It includes the Caucasus Mountains and surrounding lowlands.
     
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    Not surprised that the EU is heading far-right. Not because of "LOLOLOL LIBRULZ STINK", but more that's how the political leanings of a country work. You have it where after a certain amount of time, one side of the spectrum gets cocky and starts going farther down the rabbit hole and ticks people off. Someone comes along saying they'll do the opposite of what the current side of the spectrum is doing and people flock to it. Once people are tired of that side's spectrum, they swing back to the other side. It's like the pendulum of a grandfather clock.

    The left will never be completely eradicated nor will the right for that exact reason. Only thing that's surprising me is how fast it's been swinging from far-left to far-right.
     
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    Right, right, I forgot "white people" don't exist, have no unique race or culture, etc. Only non-white minorities are allowed to have those things.
     
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    Do you mean these white people:
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    I'll trust most people know that white people exist. But I understand why you want to undermine that, because it's easier to get people to abandon their race, culture, and heritage and embrace leftism.
     
  25. Durandal

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    It would be surprising if not for the immigrant/refugee situation.
     

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