S.10 - Anti-Semitism Awareness Act of 2016

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  1. notme

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    So what that the reasons vary. There is always a difference between the one and the other in about every historic event. Germans transported the Russians to their country where they died as slaves. Chinese were just massacred in the streets and left behind to rot. A fast difference right there, buddy. But a genocide still is a genocide. And on the list of the biggest genocides,.. the Jews aint on top as what has been claimed.

    Indeed. I would not know why not to mention that if that reaches to the proportions of a genocide like in China.
     
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    It just not. It was a genocide. And genocides happen. The Japanese killed far more Chinese civilians than the Nazi's killed Jews. And the Nazi's killed more Russian civilians than Jews. The only thing that is not in common is the method how they all got killed. The Chinese got either tortured to death (in the case of women, exceptionally horrible) or simply executed in the middle of the streets, the Russians got transported and worked to death on production lines, the Jews got transported to get executed in a hygenic way, just like the freaking US government does it and considers it not cruel or unusual.
     
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    While I do not believe the standard Holocaustian myth of "6 Million Jews systematically exterminated", I agree with you that:
    To suggest that any genocide is more profound, special or tragic because of the victims' ethnicity is the highest form of racism.

    According to the ADL in a study done by First International Resources:
    "Thirty percent of respondents said it's probably true that "Jews still talk too much about what happened to them in the Holocaust."[1]

    And:

    "Only a third of the world's population believe the genocide has been accurately described in historical accounts."[1]

    So, for those who do not believe the standard Holocaust® dogma, there are literally billions of people who also believe:

    "... the Holocaust is a lie, a myth, a hoax, a conspiracy by those with a political or ideological agenda."[2]

    The German Internment Camps of WW 2 were essentially prisons that included not only Jews, Communists, homosexuals, the Roma etc but also murderers, traitors, rapists, pedophiles & other genuine criminals.

    That Jews, Communists, homosexuals, the Roma etc were persecuted is not disputed by anyone I know but, still, there are billions of people who reject the standard Holocaust® dogma.





    [1] ”THE WORLD IS FULL OF HOLOCAUST DENIERS”
    http://www.theatlantic.com/internat...he-world-is-full-of-holocaust-deniers/370870/

    EXCERPT “ Only 54 percent of the world's population has heard of the Holocaust.

    This is the most staggering statistic in a new survey by the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) of more than 53,000 people in over 100 countries, conducted by First International Resources. But that figure speaks to only those who have heard of it:

    Only a third of the world's population believe the genocide has been accurately described in historical accounts.

    Some said they thought the number of people who died has been exaggerated; others said they believe it's a myth. Thirty percent of respondents said it's probably true that "Jews still talk too much about what happened to them in the Holocaust."
    - Hindus were most likely to believe that the number of Holocaust deaths has been exaggerated.

    - people younger than 65 were much more likely to say they believe that facts about the Holocaust have been distorted"CONTINUED


    [2] “Did the Holocaust Exist? Scary Number of People Say 'No' or Not Even Aware”
    http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/at...ary-number-of-people-say-no-or-not-even-aware

    EXCERPT “Half of the people in the world have never heard of the Holocaust, ADL found.

    And in the other half – the ones who have at least heard of the Holocaust and the truth that Adolf Hitler ordered the deaths of 6 million Jews – a third of this group simply did not believe the Holocaust happened. To this group, the Holocaust is a lie, a myth, a hoax, a conspiracy by those with a political or ideological agenda.CONTINUED
     
  4. notme

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    it does suggest that the person with that opinion thinks the life of a Jew is worth more than a Russian or Chinese.
     
  5. Borat

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    The Holocaust was not just a genocide. It was an attempt (half-successful at that) to exterminate an entire people (or race if you prefer). And as such it was pretty unique in human history.

    The jews were not to be exterminated for their property or land as it had happened throughout the history, they were not to be exterminated because they represented a military threat, they were not to be exterminated for their religious beliefs as they were during the inquisition when they were at least given the opportunity to convert. The Jews were to be exterminated merely because they lived, every single one of them from newborn to the most elderly was condemned to death. Yes, this sets the Holocaust apart from other genocides.
     
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    Folkloric.

    You sure the jews were not targeted because of their affection for communism or because their elites sold the German people? No, it was just generic madness I guess, without any rational reasons. Many people just lose it overnight (especially those who camein contact with Jews), it seems, and when they do rationality is not to be sought - conveniently.

    Every massacre has its exclusive element, Borat. If we look at the details, they all are distinct for some reason or another. Doesn't mean we should put you in jail if you try to sell us that the Confederation really won the Civil War, for exemple. Your claim that your killer had their teeth clenched more than any other doesn't mean you shoud get priviledges over the average bear.
     
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    Yes Victor, jews are commies and bankers, jews are slave traders and civil rights advocates, jews are neocons and tree-hugging liberals.... There is no bad reason to hate the Jooz for good old jew-haters. Nevertheless, the attempt to exterminate every single jew on the planet that the Holocaust was, not for their property and land, not because they were a military or economic threat but because of prejudice and blind hatred did make the Holocaust a pretty unique event in the history of humanity.
     
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    So you think people just hate the jews out of a fancy whim? That's interesting.
     
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    In their minds their hatred is of course justified... The problem is that their minds are sick.
     
  10. notme

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    That doesn't set that genocide apart from any other.
    The entire point of a genocide is to do exactly that.
     
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    You omitted the part about the "extermination" of an entire people not because they represented a military or other threat, not because their property or land was to be captured, but because of pure pathological hatred. They were exterminated as a people without any good reason. That's quite unprecedented even by the standards of genocides.
     
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    They had their reasons. White people at the time believed to be superior. Hence the US was an apartheid state in them days too oppressing black people. An other reason: You got to have your blood lines pure kind of rant. The Jewish Germans were also blamed for the defeat of Germany in WWI, just like the communists by the other Germans. (hence the first people locked up in concentration camps were commies by the nazi's... right before the elections) Jews in general according to the bible are still responsible for the death of Jesus.

    And I probably missed some other reasons.


    That really is not any different for why the Japanese killed the Chinese. They were just killed because they were just Chinese. An inferior race, according to them. And so you kill them just like you would kill a roach. It's "funny" etc.
     
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    Of course the Nazis had "reasons", I was talking about real reasons, not psychopathic ones. In your own example the Japanese and the Chinese were at war when massacres happened, Genghis Khan massacred villages and cities for land and for loot and for the strategic goal to intimidate future opponents. People massacring people for profit or safety is unfortunately a good description of the human history.... People attempting to exterminate an entire race based purely on prejudice and hatred is a case of mass insanity and is in a league of its own.
     
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    No it really wasn't that way. Plenty of people were exterminated other than Jews. It was about political control. Jews represented a threat to their power and vision for Germany.
     
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    Plenty of people perhaps but not peoples, not races. Having a program and infrastructure to exterminate an entire people/race not because of military, defense, economic benefits it could provide but out of pure pathological hatred and medieval prejudice was still pretty unique even for the human race.

    PS The German jews were absolutely fully integrated into the society, they all considered themselves proud and patriotic Germans, they were not a unified force and certainly not a threat to Germany. Arguably, Germany would have gotten the nuclear weapons first and won the war if they had not exterminated their Jewish population.
     
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    Really love the last line: "Nothing in this Act, or an amendment made by this Act, shall be construed to diminish or infringe upon any right protected under the First Amendment to the Constitution of the United States."

    Passed the Senate December 1, 2016.
    It's like saying all X folks are criminals and shall be put in concentration camps, but is not to be construed as infringing on their rights "protected" under bla bla bla.

    Reckon, the best thing is for everyone to claim to be "Jewish". However, under the Noahide laws, passed by Congress in 1991, worshipping Christ as God will get your head chopped off, like the US backed Talmudic terrorists attacking Syria, Libya, Iraq have been doing.
     
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    Good grieve....
    The Nazi's used their existing infrastructure to rage war against allied forces. Also, it has nothing to do with medieval prejudice. The Arian/Jewish American had similar views about they being the master race over the black population during them days.

    There is really nothing significant of that genocide compared to what the nazi's did to Russian civilians, or Japanese to the Chinese.


    You can even say that what the Germans did was not cruel. Since the US government also transports prisoners to have them gassed to death. I rather have that. Than being worked to death in a f-ed up factory like the Russian slaves had to. Or just tortured to death in the streets for the heck of it.
     
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    Actually, the Japanese were copying the 2 greatest most prosperous and strongest nations, Christian America and Christian Great Britain.
    They copied the British propensity for cruelty as was done to Ireland, China, India and South Africa. And they copied Lincoln's war on civilian people in both the South and North, our slaughter of Native Americans, invasion of China to force them to accept opium, US invasion of Phillippines that killed over a million Philippinos, US invasions of Mexico, US starvation of Germany after WW1, US invasion of Haite to enslave the Blacks of Haite to US bankers.
     
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    What the Russians and the Japanese did during the war was absolutely horrific, yet they did not have the goal of exterminating the Russian or the Japanese peoples.

    The Nazi goal of total annihilation of the Jewish race was not an attempt to gain military, defense or financial advantage, it was based on pure hatred and medieval prejudice. They built an entire industry of extermination which was working like a well-oiled machine and they systematically, day after day, year after year were exterminating millions of people because they were jews.
     
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    In the debate about who's slaughter was the most important, a lot of them have 1 feature in common:

    The idea that the victims were inferior to the killers. However, now, the Superior people consider themselves the victims, and whine over and over again, endlessly.

    One thing lost in the Holocaust debates is who really did the Holocaust.
    Some points to consider in the matter:
    The word, "Holocaust" is in the Catholic Duoay Bible, 1605 A.D. and is described in Leviticus as a burnt offering of your own sheep.
    The Ashkenazi self professed Jews of Europe condemned to death all/most the Sephardic Jews of Europe for not supporting the scheme to rebuild the old Pharisee powerbase in Jerusalem.
    The Nazi Party established a special court that issued decrees that the "Jewish" applicants/petioners were German.

    These points show that Germany was more of a victim than a willing participant, Especially when it was Stalin who organized mass killings in Russia to be blamed on Germany. And there were forces inside Germany that carried out similar things.

    Germans had no power to resist the Nazi machine established by US bankers and industrialists.

    In America, public officials are "agents" of the People, and hence the American People are liable for the actions of the Agents. And, based on this, the American People are far more guilty of our war crimes than the Germans were at any point in the 20th Century.
     
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    I doubt those others did what the Japanese did in Nanking and elsewhere.
     
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    Get of your high horse. It's just utterly ridiculous. You do not just by accident surpass the amount of Jews killed. The genocide of the Chinese and Russians are both bigger... by a freaking massive margin! Those are the cruel facts of it all. And they got massacred because they were considered subhumans just like the Jews. Seriously... wtf? Do you also consider the life of a Russian or Chinese baby to be less than a Jewish baby?

    That is the entire point of any genocide of any group. It does not make the Jewish genocide any more special. And you fail to respond to that. This make it seem you believe this was the fist genocide ever in history. Utterly ridiculous.
     
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    You haven't read that the USA killed a million Philippinos, that Lincoln killed over a million Americans, especially targetting civilians, that the UK killed millions in India and China, or how the UK took the children and women of the Boers, put'em in concentration camps and starved them to death. Nor have you considered the millions of Native Americas slaughtered by the USA. Chairman Mao and Chank Kai Shek killed a lot more Chinese than the Japanese did.

    And, I have seen no one that can honestly and Truthfully deny that the Japanese were not copying the ways of America, Britain and European powers. So called Americans don't want to see all the rotten terrible things they have done. They much prefer to blame everything on "inferior" people who they love to demonize, slander, torment, maim and kill.

    Even the Talmudic Prime MInister of Great Britain, Disraeli witnessed how the British people do not really worship Jesus Christ, but Molech.
     
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    That is not what the Japanese did in Nanking.
     
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    So what is notme saying? That when Japanese kill Chinese, it's bad, and when the US, Chinese & Britain kill Chinese it's good?
     

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