Dead Deer - Perfect example of progressive failure

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  1. Battle3

    Battle3 Well-Known Member

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    A deer that lived in a park in NYC made the fatal mistake of becoming involved with the NY City and NY State "progressive" government.

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...arlem-deer-dies-amid-rescue-attempt/95549816/

    A Harlem deer that captivated the city died Friday afternoon amid a would-be rescue attempt by the state.

    New York City officials said the deer died as the state Department of Environmental Conservation sought to transport it from a city shelter to Upstate New York.

    Gov. Andrew Cuomo and de Blasio then fought over the deer's fate.

    De Blasio's office said the deer would need to be euthanized, saying it was “the only humane and safe recourse.”

    That's when Cuomo stepped in.

    Late Thursday, his office said it would direct the state Department of Environmental Conservation to find alternatives to killing the deer, saying it will "offer assistance to the city to transport and find a new habitat for it immediately."

    On WNYC radio Friday morning, de Blasio warned against trying to move the deer.

    "It creates all sorts of extended pain and usually leads to death," he said.

    But by noon Friday, even as the city debated the deer's future, the DEC officially intervened.

    The DEC noted the deer died while still in the city's possession.


    NYC mayor and Communist de Blasio says to just kill the deer "for its own good". Classic "progressive" reasoning.

    By straying from its "progressive" mandated living zone, the deer showed it did not obey the "progressive" view of the world, it was an individual, a free-thinker, it demonstrated it could survive without the "helping" hand of the government, hence it had to be imprisoned and killed.

    Its a microcosm of "progressivism".

    The "progressives" are zealots, they are so dedicated to their ideology that they will stop at nothing to impose it upon the world - you, a deer, everything. Even if it kills you, even if the "progressive" medicine kills the patient, to "progessives" that's acceptable.

    When there was an internal squabble between "progressives", the turf battle took precedence over the deer's life - "progressivism" is all about power and control and nothing is as important as asserting power and control over others.

    That logic should sound familiar:

    Don't want the baby, or the baby has a defect, kill it "for its own good".
    People don't want the government controlling their health care, then roll over those astroturf people "for their own good".
    People elect an outsider to be President, then the people are too stupid to vote and the election needs to be sabotaged "for their own good".
    People don't believe the "progressive" message because the people are too stupid and are tricked by alternative news sources, then impose censorship "for their own good".

    Unless you are one of the upper elite "progressives" who wield the whip, why would anyone want to be or want to support "progressives"?

    All of us are just deer to the "progressive" rulers. As long as you vote and pay and think and do what you are told, they let you live.
    Be an individual, they ruin or imprison or kill you.

    Why are so many fooled into supporting "progressives"?
     
  2. Balto

    Balto Well-Known Member

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    1. The baby and mother are one entity until the baby is officially born.
    2. Insurance companies need to stay in check, even if it takes governmental intervention to keep the insurance companies from thinking for themselves too much.
    3. People elected someone who played off of fear and paranoia, one of the LEAST qualified people anyone could vote for. It was a good laugh when Gary Johnson point blank said, "What is Aleppo?" but Johnson would be much more qualified than Trump by lightyears.
    4. Fox News and Breibart are good for a hearty laugh. Alex Jones and Sean Hannity are just downright buffoons.
     
  3. Kode

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    Wow!! This is a great example of right wing spin! The "deer showed it did not obey the 'progressive' view of the world, it was an individual, a free-thinker"!!

    Euthanization is "classic progressive reasoning"!!

    Kill a baby "for its own good"!!

    And de Blasio is a "Communist"!! Really?!!!
    And it turned out he was right. The deer died. But you had a good time spinning and dancing and condemning and vilifying. That's what counts, eh?
     
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    Really? Then why is someone that murders a pregnant woman charged with two counts of murder?

    And you agree with the concept that the best way to "check" the insurance companies is to force everyone to do business with them?

    Only in the ludicrous left mind that thought a criminal like Hillary was the best choice of all.

    I'll take your Fox News and Brietbart, and raise you MSNBC and Huffington Post. I take your Alex Jones and Sean Hannity, and raise you Rachel Maddow and Ed Shultz.
     
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    Should have just closed the side streets and shooed it along until it got to New Jersey.

    Capture myopathy is not uncommon in deer. Happens in birds as well. My brother used to capture birds intending to make them pets and they would keel over in short order.
     
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    Sounds more like classic government efficiency. Instead of slaughtering it and serving venison at a soup kitchen, they expend countless man hours trying to figure out how to do what anybody with a working brain could figure out in ten seconds.
     
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    Democrats killed this deer.
     
  8. Kode

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    Don't you know? Democrats are responsible for all bad stuff.
     
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    Really, all of this nonsense over a deer?

     
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    You could make that argument. But for this bad stuff, well Dems did it.
     
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    It's very important to slam and vilify democrats at every opportunity.

    - - - Updated - - -

    No they didn't.
     
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    HereWeGoAgain Banned

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    Since Republicans typically drive larger cars than Democrats, it is reasonable to assume that Republicans kill far more deer each year. :)
     
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    Couldn't do that Christie closed the bridges !
     
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    :clapping:

    You have won the internet.

    :winner:
     
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    Congratulations on proving the OP correct.
     
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    Why, because the State tried to get rid of a deer? Transport it to a safe area and release. That is common practice with wild animals that get into the city.
     
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    haha this was a fun read... I think you should work a line in there about how the upper elite progressives, don't actually apply those rules to themselves, just those they rule over... I mean take a stroll through the elite neighborhoods in california, with water shortages, they are the only ones with ultra plush green lawns, and lighting displaying all of that at night despite the rest of us cutting back to conserve energy and eliminate emissions from energy production... they are the epitome of "do as I say, not as I do" when they are whipping the common man...

    progressives - "everyone must change, except me"
     
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    what would have happened, if they just left the deer in the park, out in nature, where it was living? why did they have to trap and contain it, for its own good? and then fight over transporting it someplace else? they killed it by taking action, they could have just left it alone, where it was alive... but that wasn't good enough for them, they couldn't have this wild animal running around in a park... because, it might, hurt itself or something?

    P.S. basically, why did they need to "rescue" something that was living? and now its dead since they "rescued" it... stop rescuing things...
     
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    That's the same as saying Trump killed common sense and logic.

    Even though its undeniably true.
     
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    Republicans don't drive - cause they care so much about deer - didn't you know...?
     
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    1. The fact someone is charged with two counts of murder when they murder a pregnant woman is wrong. And what I am saying isn't barbaric, just think about it. The baby is operating off of the resources of the mother as it develops. One count of murder would be more logical, unless you got a pro-life DA, a pro-life Judge, and a pro-life jury.

    2. No, to "force" the insurance companies to work with the government, instead of sheepishly backing out.

    3. You're right, Sanders was. But we ended up getting Hillary or Trump at the end of the day, the common sense folk voted Hillary.

    4. Ed Schulz is a little out there, but calm down, Maddow is fine. Have you ever found any opening remarks of O'Reilly's not the same as a opening skit for Comedy Central? Face it, Fox is a laughing stock of a network.
     
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    So they both agreed to trap the deer - and both had their own scenario of why it will or most die if they do. Why didn't they just leave it alone?
     
  23. rkhames

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    You know there is a whole continent that that thinks like you do. You ought to take an extended trip there. I guarantee that it would not be more then a couple of months before you were booking your tickets back to the good old US of A. But let me deal with you lunacy individually:

    "1. The fact someone is charged with two counts of murder when they murder a pregnant woman is wrong. And what I am saying isn't barbaric, just think about it. The baby is operating off of the resources of the mother as it develops. One count of murder would be more logical, unless you got a pro-life DA, a pro-life Judge, and a pro-life jury."

    While you obviously equate a baby to a tumor, ready to be cut out on a whim, the law that you are denouncing is actually the law of the land in most states. Most states recognize that a the fetus being carried by a mother is a completely separate entity.

    "2. No, to "force" the insurance companies to work with the government, instead of sheepishly backing out."

    So, businesses can not make financial decisions for themselves. They should be made by the Government. How very Communist of you. What if the government promised the companies compensation that they could not deliver because they were illegal? Would that justify a business pulling out of the government run program?

    "3. You're right, Sanders was. But we ended up getting Hillary or Trump at the end of the day, the common sense folk voted Hillary."

    Equus ferus caballus fecal matter! The voter with even an ounce of common sense would not have voted for an individual that committed Espionage while serving as Sec of State. BTW, do you know why Sanders voters voted for Johnson and Stein instead of Hillary? You do remember that Sanders endorsed Hillary, right? It is because they felt betrayed after the DNC emails showed that they had worked to undermined Sanders' Campaign. They felt that he betrayed them by endorsing Hillary. Oops, there goes 4 million votes!

    "4. Ed Schulz is a little out there, but calm down, Maddow is fine. Have you ever found any opening remarks of O'Reilly's not the same as a opening skit for Comedy Central? Face it, Fox is a laughing stock of a network.

    I must admit, I do find a lot of humor in your comment? "Maddow is fine." ROTFL-KUMHAD! The fact is that Fox News has the most viewers, and MSNBC has the lowest number of viewers. It is not because one is funny, and the other is not. It is because they are telling the viewers the side of the story that the MSM is leaving out. A little while ago, I started a thread about a three year old that was shot while traveling with his grandmother. Fox news reported on the story 10 hours ago. All the other services started reporting the story in the last three hours. Why the 7 hour delay for the other services? Because they had to figure out how to spin it to match their agenda.

    People are realizing that the liberal agenda has failed. They want compromise, and that is what they are going to get. You can continue to voice your extremist left-wing views. That is your right, but you will find far less puppets like yourself parroting it. Soon, your party is going to have to move closer to the center, or be replaced by the Libertarians. So, you might want to go visit those like minded individuals overseas.
     

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