Political Correctness

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  1. Crcata

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    Time and time again I have seen people speak about political correctness in the context of defending blatant insults towards someone (usually their own) while laughing that they no longer have to be politically correct. Well, blatant insults intending to be demeaning is not what people are defending when they claim to be tired of political correctness. What people (from my experience and perspective) are tired of is other people getting offended (or pretending to) by words or phrases that were not intended to be offensive, thereby requiring people to have to think and then rethink about what they are saying in order to ensure they do not offend anyone even in the most trivial of circumstances.

    An example would be if one is talking about police brutality and is defending police, and in doing so uses the words "police" when referring to our men and women in uniform and "civilian" when referring to citizens. If a citizen/civilian then chooses to be offended at such a label for its, in their words, divisiveness...we have an example of ridiculous political correctness. The word civilian in that case was not meant to be demeaning or citizens, but to differentiate. We will naturally put a name to different people in different positions or cultures and regardless of what word you want to use it will serve the same purpose...to differentiate and communicate effectively, which is necessary. Some of those words will be used simply to differentiate, others will be used to insult.

    An example of reasonably being offended by a word or phrase is when someone refers to black people as "(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)s". That is a direct insult, used specifically to hurt, demean, and dehumanize an entire group of people. So by being offended by that is not being politically correct, its reasonable. And to defend such use of words is not laughing in the face of political correctness either. Its simply just mean.

    There are far to many examples to list so I will leave it there. However the variable that I believe need to be considered by reasonable people to decide on whether its just "political correctness" or blatant insulting is the intention of the word or phrase being said. Is it being said to hurt or demean someone? Is it being said to differentiate? Or is it simply being said because its true? If it is not being said to blatantly insult and you choose to be offended, or offended on someone elses behalf, then you are furthering an idea of political correctness that so many people are now starting to reject. There is a difference between the two.
     
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    Political correctness can go way overboard.

    For instance, believing in legal immigration, border protection, and of laws is politically incorrect. Since Trump believed in a sovereign USA he was slandered as politically incorrect, unjustly so.
     
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    Political correctness is dead...
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    ... if ya don't believe me...

    ... just wait till Trump...

    ... grabs some woo-hoo in office.
    :omg:
     
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    What constitutes PC is subjective. Had a good debate here a while back in which no consensus could be reached.
     
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    Well someone people will argue for the sake of argument.

    EVERYTHING is subjective. So in some cases a consensus will never be reached.

    Some people are simply unreasonable.
     
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    What is an unreasonable person if other than someone that you do not agree with? What objective boundary separates language vs politically correct language?
     
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    Reason and logic determine what is true and isnt. Every single aspect of life is subjective, to pretend that means there is no such thing as good and bad, right or wrong, correct other incorrect, reasonable or unreasonable, etc is foolish.

    And I laid out very reasonable and logical terms. And a point of view I believe many share.
     
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    PC has been outted as a failed attempt by the left to control free speech. No more and no less.

    Woe unto the fool that tries to tell me what I said is not PC. I will unload on him or her just how stupid they are as to try to tell me what I can say.
     
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    The consensus is simple, it is illegal to make laws that enforces political correctness.
    Enforcement of political correctness to defend particular group is a special right, that deemed to be unconstitutional.
     
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    PC is just a poor attempt by the right to excuse their bad manners.
     
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    Typically and generally speaking, Political Correctness is being anti-White and anti-Christian. More exactly it is being against Western people and their culture, and against the moral laws in the Bible.
     
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    PC by the left is just their excuse to pretend they are caring. The left don't realize you can't be PC and accepting at the same time.
     
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    I occasionally use the word "retard" (or "****") in informal colloquial speech, to indicate a person who is acting mentally disabled. I get corrected on that from time to time by people who tell me it's disrespectful to the mentally handicapped. I will usually ignore them. If they say it again, I will respond with sarcasm.
     
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    One thing is certain....liberals will not get us there.
     
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    Would you also ignore people or respond with sarcasm if they used the word (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*), ****, or ****? What is wrong with calling people what they want to be called?

    [video]https://youtu.be/T549VoLca_Q[/video]
     
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    you don't have the right not to be offended but I do have the right to offend


    what is offensive is suggestive. I find you post offensive there for you need to take it down. see how that works ?
    PC is nothing but an excuse to censor speech
     
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    Honestly, I see nothing wrong with political correctness. I try to do well by these unspoken rules myself.

    I also believe PC works for all involved. While, I'll try my best to be cordial, I can still become incredibly cruel if I believe another is deliberately wicked in how they convey their messages. Therefore, why not try to get the points across in the most diplomatic way possible in the first place? Just my 2.
     
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    As silly as that sounds what right has anyone to deny someone their bad manners?
     
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    PC is a disease invented by lib/progs who cater to and belong to groups who cannot tolerate the truth or who lib/progs are afraid of offending with facts. It's bull(*)(*)(*)(*) personified.
     
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    I take it you didn't watch the video. You are using "retard" in a derogatory fashion, aren't you?

    - - - Updated - - -

    You have every right to your bad manners, just don't complain when people call you on it.
     
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    You missed the part where I said;
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    "I occasionally use the word "retard" (or "****") in informal colloquial speech...."
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    You must not know what "informal colloquial speech" means, which is regrettable because the phrase is rather precise. It's the kind of local language you use when you are shooting the s*** with people you already know. I would never use that word professionally even without the PC admonitions. The word "retard" as always been considered uncouth language. If there is any other way I can help you with the English language, please let me know.
     
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    Being told that what I said is not PC by someone IS bad manners.
     
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    And your forgetting the part where you said "to indicate a person who is acting mentally disabled." Do you think it is okay to disparage people who are mentally disabled by comparing them to people who are just being stupid, even when you are shooting the s*** with people you already know?
     
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    The ability to be rude is not political correctness. That's just being a dick😉Walking on eggshells because you're not allowed to potentially offend someone is PC.

    Everyone knows calling a disabled person a retard is wrong and rude. No one is saying it's ok do to that. PC is Starbucks not having Christmassy decor or not playing music that can be interpreted as religious, because they're afraid of backlash. Poor snowflakes might be offended.

    PC is making sure an image for your business shows just the right amount of diversity so an activist group doesn't accuse you of being racist.


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