Norway police haven't killed anyone in ten years

What Norway is planning on doing has no bearing on this discussion

 

So you are arguing that gun control doesn't work because we don't have walled cities with restricted entry and exit points? OK. Great argument.

 

Really, clearly logic escapes you

 

Spot on!

 

Nope...I'm saying that you can't point to Chicago as having strict gun laws but high crime if the gun laws right across the city limits are lax. That would be dishonest

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How do you talk about what Norwegian police are doing now and have done in the past by pointing out what they PLAN to do in the future?

Do you understand what logic IS?

 

I think it's relevant that localities that have strict gun laws have more gun violence than localities right next door that don't have strict gun laws.

 

They also don't have gangs and poverty. They sell guns TO the gangs

 

Ah, now we're getting somewhere. We should live life to the lowest common denominator. I and my neighbors can handle guns responsibly, but others can't, so EVERYONE needs their rights removed. Do you regard that as a good general policy?

 

Past, present and future are all relevant when discussing a decade, don't let anger control your logic and try harder to break free of singular thinking and factor in all the variables and encompass the overall picture!

 

I think it is more relevant that localities with large Black populations have more gun violence.

 

My police are extremely friendly where I live. They don't worry too much about getting shot in my city so they don't shoot us either. Then again we dont have much low income and our demographics are mostly white and Asian with some educated Hispanics thrown into the mix. Not the kind of environment that breeds violence or fear. A mom in her minivan or SUV isn't likely to pose much of a threat.

The numbers were already in a previous post but removing blacks from US gun violence numbers makes us safer than EU. Interesting right?





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No you don't.

 

Population, culture, etc. play huge roles here, but we must look at the other factors.
The police in this nation are militarized not only in equipment but in training and tactics. Any police force more aggressive and more adequately trained to be an occupation force rather than a servant to the citizenry is apt to both cause and be a cause of more unrest.
With this culture of occupation comes a response by activists (legitimate,) and alarmists (illegitimate.) The Dallas shootings are my prime example of what happens when these two ideologies come together. We saw protesters and police coexisting in a way too rarely seen lately, only to have it unraveled by violence from a victim or perpetrator of an alarmist agenda.
This combative policing mindset and alarmist culture are equal in their danger to liberty, but I think our inability to look past the divisiveness from private and public factions rivals that danger. When every protest or action (think Occupy Wall Street and the occupation in Burns) is burned down by the media, and subsequently so by their respective followers, it only adds fuel to a fire that isn't actually there. How does one come support a certain action or movement, yet be against another that is ultimately working toward the same end: the limitations of a government (both state and Federal) that has too long overstepped their boundaries?

 

City officials fire them.

 

So it's a people problem?

You can be poor and still be a good person. Poverty doesn't make people shoot each other. being a bad person does though. Who are the bad people in Chicago shooting everyone? Go ahead....

 

Shhhhhhhh. Don't even think it.

 

My analysis, is all Major cities on the list are run by Democrats therefore it's on the Dems to control the problem, being that most mayors and council members live outside the kill zone, it's who cares? Now my town has 525 citizens and virtually all of the adults have access to firearms, farming community, yet in the 25 years I've lived here there has not been one gun homicide. Oh yeah, the cops haven't shot anyone either in that time.

 

I would encourage Rahm Emmanuel to hire the entire Norwegian Police force and send them to South Chicago and see how long they would last

 

Well golly gee willlikers.

 

I don't think it is so much who runs the city, Demokrap, Republican or Communist Party, but who lives there. It ain't an education problem. It ain't a gun problem. It is a Black problem. Take the guns away and they would be settling scores with machetes.

 

A lot of things "can" be but the fact remains...poverty is a driver of crime. That's fact

 

And you know this just how?

 

Read and learn

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/inside-the-criminal-mind/201412/crime-causes-poverty

 

Of course it's who runs the cities, they hire the police chief who's duty it is to protect the citizens. But I do agree that if you takes the guns out of the hands of thugs any weapon would do.

 

Liberal condescension , makes for a wonderful personality. Your snobbery is noted.