GOP Abandons Christian Values

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  1. CrankyPant

    CrankyPant New Member

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    Not to belabor the obvious, but the Republicans just elected a spiteful, racist, bigoted adulterer who mocks people with disabilities. Likely the least principled and least moral president in history.
    They don't ever again get to pretend that they're the party of Christian values.
     
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    garyd Well-Known Member

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    Typically left lots of false allegations made with no proof whatever.
     
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    Or the party of the Constitution.
     
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    Marine1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm sorry sir but you don't know what your talking about. He isn't a racist and he didn't mock anyone. As a matter of fact, he gave $10, 000 dollars to a Black bus driver who saved a woman from jumping from a bridge. He put Jennifer Hudson and her family up in his hotel for free after part of her family were murdered and gave her round the clock security while there. But lets talk about who the racist really is. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/811047/posts. As for mocking a disabled person, he never did it. That's the way Trump shows people's frustration, including himself. Here in two videos, you can seeing him doing the same thing to others and himself as his way of showing frustration. [video=youtube;M4604reEqk0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4604reEqk0[/video] https://www.facebook.com/USConstitution1789/videos/1769466800002795/
     
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    Yet Christians voted for them overwhelmingly... Curious.
     
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    Clinton claims to be a Christian and he had affairs right under Hillary's nose IN the White House. He was also accused of rape. "I never had sex with that woman." BUT HE DID and MANY others too. Kennedy claimed to be a Christian and Lord knows, he had MANY affairs IN the White House. LBJ claimed to be a Christian too...so what is your point?
     
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    Marine1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Here is another that shows he never mocked the disabled.[video]http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/09/14/did-trump-really-mock-reporters-disability-videos-could-back-him-up.html[/video]
     
  8. CrankyPant

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    Yeah, he most certainly is a racist regardless of whether he occasionally did something nice for a black person. The first time he ever made the front page of the newspaper was when he was sued by the DOJ for discriminating against black renters in his apartment buildings - turning away black undercover investigators while showing apartments to their white counterparts. He was fined for hiding black employees at his casinos, he was sued for reneging on an agreement to hire minority employees at another casino, he accepted the endorsements of prominent white supremacists, he retweeted racist screeds from white supremacist websites, he named a prominent racist/anti-Semite as his chief adviser, and a man deemed too racist to be a judge to be his Attorney General. He ran ads in the NY papers calling for the death penalty for black teenagers who had been falsely convicted in the Central Park jogger case, and continued to insist that they must have been guilty after they were exonerated by DNA evidence. He ran ads calling Native Americans criminals and drug addicts in an effort to deny them a casino license, and he said that he couldn't get a fair trial from a judge with Mexican immigrant parents. He attacked a Gold Star family, saying that the grieving mother was silent because of her religion. He spent 5 years insisting that President Obama was born in Kenya, blatantly lying about his "investigators" finding proof.
    And yes, he absolutely did mock Serge Kovaleski's physical condition, after Kovaleski rightfully exposed Trump's fake story about seeing Muslims celebrating 9/11. And then he lied about having never met the reporter, even though Kovaleski had covered Trump for years and been invited to his office for one-on-one interviews.
    Politics aside, Trump is just a disgusting person on every level - racist, misogynist, an adulterer with an out-of-wedlock child, a bully, a con artist, a crook and a serial liar. The most unChristian candidate ever. I repeat - the GOP can never again claim to believe in Christian values.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hEQKqFgfAg&t=30s
     
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    The GOP didn't abandon Christian values, since they never actually had them. Their only value is $$$$.

    However, this year republicans DID stop PRETENDING to be the Christian values party by voting for the morally most repulsive candidate.

    He is, however, a billionaire, so no surprise regarding the fawning over the supposedly self-made trust fund baby.
     
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    What other religion mocks people that are different? Do Muslims disparage blacks? Do Buddhists slander whites? What gives Christians the right to disparage anyone just because they're not Christian? It's because they think they're better than them, that's why. This delusion of being superior because of their religion is pervasive and destructive not to mention disrespectful of others. It's dangerous to the soul.
     
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    Yeah, but Hillary is a drunken warmonger Kleptocrat, so the choice was pretty easy. The Democrat Party has increasingly relied on a strategy of dividing people into categories and playing them off of each other. Obama pushed class-warfare politics and made the GOP stronger than its been in nearly a hundred years.

    Voters have tired of that kind of ideological warfare. It’s no big mystery why voters in both parties looked for options outside of the established Parties, both Parties. The difference between the two parties was that the Clintons locked out all of the other practical options. Voters wanted someone who could return jobs and prosperity rather than push stagnation and diversity virtue-signaling.

    The Clintons are done, even Democrats aren’t dumb enough to give them a third chance to run the party into the ground. Dems need to focus on the real issues facing American families across the country, not just in the coastal enclaves and academic ivory towers.

    Keith Ellison is the man to lead them out of the wilderness.
     
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    they never supported Christian values, they just tried to use religion to win the votes of the religious right
     
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    Slavery of Africans is still alive and well in Islamic controlled portions of Africa. In short you have no idea what the hell your talking about. Christians ask you to repent Muslim throw you off the damn roof of the tallest building in town. So your primary problem with Christians is that they'd rather you didn't volunteer for eternity in hell but Muslims who cheerfully volunteer to send you there get a pass. Buddhism is about self perfection and what you do is your own karma or dharma to work out according to your own fate and they could care less about that fate. So basically you curse the people who give a damn about you and give those who would kill you a pass.

    I am a Christian. I am not superior to anyone else I'm just another sinner whom God has chosen, for reasons I do not currently understand, to save. I am not saved, sir, because of what I have done, will do, or am doing; though some of those things may indeed show the state of grace in which I exist and in which I existed 'ere I knew it. I am but a poor supplicant begging those walking down that broad path to hell to turn back. I am but a watchmen warning of the peril ahead to the blind men walking toward the edge of the cliff they cannot see.
     
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    How long ago was Marla Maples and how big a price did he pay for it? Every body gets a second chance unless it is a holier than thou Democrat calling the shots. Let Him who is without sin cast the first stone.
     
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    Most of the Democrats voted for Hillary for only two reasons. 1. they voted strictly Party, 2. They voted for the first woman to become President. As I showed, Bill Clinton was sued three times. Once to make it hard for blacks to vote in his state and another time to prevent a Black from taking an office he won. Then he was sued again for stopping a cars from Texas with Hispanics in it. Now if you can't see any of that as racist, than you refuse to see the truth. Hillary's record from the time she got her first job, till she became First Lady to Secretary of State is full of scandals, lies and criminal activity. She has been shown to treat the people who work for her as nothings. Eight books written about her by eight different people paint her as a foul mouth (*)(*)(*)(*)(*). Her helicopter pilot when she was First Lady said he called his chopper Broom Stick One when she was aboard. Her staff was ordered to not look at her when she walked by. Didn't want the people guarding her to even talk to her or say hi. That's the kind of (*)(*)(*)(*)(*) and first husband you wanted in the White House.
     
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    Why is the Left complaining of this fact? Doesn't that mean the 'Christian Right' has less sway in the GOP than ever before? That means the Neo-con has also lost the moral argument for their pro-war policies. It'll be a matter of time before they admit: Yes, we're using our military for pro-corporate gains.
     
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    Yes. What's the point? All sin and fall short of the glory of God (even Christians).

    Muslims don't disparage blacks, they're too busy throwing gay people off of buildings. (Not sure why you never hear anything about that from those on the left...).

    Thank-you. Very well said.

    Don't confuse things by providing facts; that's simply unacceptable...
     
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    You think you are "crankypants" now, wait until the Trumpster gets rolling. Your waddling email deleting drunken kleptocrat was no prize either. And neither was that pile of crap healthcare take over and destruction that you passed by a bare and brief majority that was an obvious historical anomaly. Well, live by reconciliation, die by reconciliation.

    “Reid: Dems will use 50-vote tactic to finish healthcare in 60 days.”

    The move would allow Democrats to essentially go it alone on health reform, especially after losing their filibuter-proof majority in the Senate after Sen. Scott Brown’s (R) special election victory in Massachusetts.

    Republicans have protested the maneuver as a hyperpartisan tactic to ram through a health bill, and have said that plans to use the reconciliation process make moot a bipartisan summit at the White House this week, where both GOP and Democratic leaders are supposed to present their ideas on healthcare.

    http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-brief...te-tactic-to-finish-healthcare-within-60-days

    They honestly bought into that “permanent Democratic majority” "arc of history" and now its kicking 'em RIGHT in the keister!

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    Obviously you are a Christian to evaluate what are "Christian values." What denomination are you? Do you believe in speaking tongues? What is your opinion on Holy Communion - figurative or literally the body and blood of Christ? How many times a week do you attend church?
     
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    Tell me, since the subject is christian stances in the election; was Jesus big on the whole "Pick the lesser of two evils"-thingy?

    If the election is between two really bad people, is choosing what you perceive to be the lesser one the proper christian choice?
     
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    It was Reagan who united big business with the bible belt under his "big tent".

    Even though they have abandoned the "Christian values" they never really had, don't doubt for a second that they still want control over life and death choices - abortion, right to die, death penalty, and wars, based on imagined moral authority.
     
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    Democrats boo'd God at their 2012 Convention and now they want to claim that Jesus wanted us to vote for Hillary?

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    I don't really understand what you're talking about. I didn't boo god, I don't claim to know what Jesus, such as he was, would've wanted, I don't support Hillary, and I'm not a democrat!

    Not one thing you just said was true. Could you actually address the post I did make, please?

    Was voting for Trump the proper christian thing to do?
     
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    Sure. Christians are perfectly free to vote for whoever they like. I voted for Bernie in the primary and Trump in the General.

    It's Libs that think they can boss everyone around. And Progressivism came out of the Left Wing church, which is probably why they are so preachy, but real Christians understand that we have perfect freedom in such matters.

    As put so well by another:

    There has been much bellyaching by liberal white women that 53% of white voted for Donald Trump in November presidential election.

    Why?

    I am the wife of a white husband (who is a kind, hard-working, devoted family man).
    I am the mother of a white son (who is the perfect mix of smart and sweet).
    I am the sister of a white brother (who has served this country honorably as a US Marine).
    I am the aunt of a white nephew (who has also served this country in the US Army).
    I am the daughter of a white father (who won a Pulitzer prize covering the race riots in Detroit, in an effort to support civil rights).
    I am the best friend of a white co-blogger (who has served in various hot spots across the globe as a Green Beret).
    I am the employee of a white, male employer (who is an awesome boss and a substantial taxpayer).

    While life under Donald Trump may not be perfect for them, I anticipate that their lives will be better because of the policies that Trump plans to enact and the people he intends to put in charge. So will mine.

    I am not going to vote so you feel “safe”. In fact, you voting your feelings is part of the problem.

    After eight years of the Obama administration and its antics (e.g., global warming is more of a threat than terrorism), we will be safer only after January 20, 2017. I suspect there are many other Americans who are looking forward to that date as well.

    As an extra bonus for my vote, I sense there is now an appreciation for the “alpha-male” that has been noticeably lacking for at least eight years. Dear Sa’iyda, please allow me to show you what that looks like:

    [video]https://youtu.be/ONZWKXY0hGI[/video]

    I am so damned tired of the continuous white-man-bashing of social justice warriors. It seems I am not the only one, as the evidence suggests:

    There has been enormous backlash to MTV’s White Guy Resolution 2017 video, which is off-the -charts in terms of racism and sexism.
    White male college students are fighting back — and winning — when falsely accused of racism, sexism, and ginned-up crimes.
    Lucasfilm President Kathleen Kennedy said she doesn’t need to cater to male Star Wars fans, and it appears, and men are assessing the new film based on how much gender justice messaging is depicted.
    I admit that Donald Trump is far from perfect. However, I have seen this man grow during the campaign. I anticipate he will learn rapidly, adjust readily to the conditions of the Office of President, and continue to be flexible and adaptable in pursuing the best interests of all the citizens in this nation (just not the special, protected classes like Obama administration has done).

    Sa’iyda: I sure hope you’re tolerant and open-minded enough to acknowledge improvements in both Trump and the country that you will see in the next four years (at least).

    In conclusion, the one thing I like best about electing Donald Trump: The era of the Beta Male is over.

    I hope my explanation helps. Thank you for the opportunity to do so.

    Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!

    http://legalinsurrection.com/2016/1...-friend-and-the-era-of-the-beta-male-is-over/
     

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