'Children burned alive, tragic goodbyes and genocide' Assad's forces set to retake Al

Well everyone I met in Afghanistan loved us and wanted us to stay.

Because when we left, predictably, the Taliban came back and (*)(*)(*)(*)ed them all up.

It's happening in Sangin right now, that's where I was.

Those people would give anything to have us there again.

 

We got soft.

We should have kept slaughtering them by the thousands but we went and offered them jobs and (*)(*)(*)(*) instead.

And it bit us in the ass.

If I were in charge, I'd have offered them jobs and then when they showed up, executed every last one of them.

The only way to beat a (*)(*)(*)(*)ed up ideology is to kill it. Unfortunately, the American public doesn't understand that.

 

The claim of WMD's in Iraq was Saddam's. We didn't have intel to disprove him, so we took him at his word.

 

The main reason we went to Afghanistan was to restore the supply of drugs that the Taliban had cut off.

 

Nope. You're just a bunch of losers unable to win an asymmetric warfare against a bunch of camel and goat herders.
Your government was at the brink of being bankrupt because of that and saw no way to make a profit out of it.

They blow you up and chant their god is great before you get the chance.

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The main reason was to install a puppet regime that would allow US companies to drain that country of its natural resources.
The US army did the geological survey of the country in the middle of the war. Says enough.

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source?

 

Memory. But a few seconds searching Google brought up someone's article about it.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/07/01/AR2009070104217.html

Remember now?

 

One can't "win" an occupation. The only options in the occupations of Iraq and Afghanistan are stay forever and leave. We need to get far away from the Middle East or else figure out a way to send the sons and daughter of the rich and powerful.

 

How stupid. Every oilman, even the dumb ones know the oil business hates a war zone.

I remember over 600 acts of sabotage, I don't remember any geologic survey done by US troops.

 

No. You said that Saddam claimed to have WMD's prior to the invasion. Your source is post invasion.

I do recall the US making claims that Saddam had WMD's, like for instance the GWB state of the union prior to the war claiming Saddam bought them from some African country. That made an angry diplot spill his beans to I believe the New York Post, saying GWB flat out lied about it. That diplomat was at the time ordered to look into it, flew over, did that job, and was able to spot with ease that it was untrue, and reported that back. So he knew first hand. The US government reacted to being exposes as lying to their country and the world by mentioning the wife's diplomat being a CIA spy, terminating both their means of income.

Remember that one?

 

Plame? Yellow cake.

The Neocons wanted a war on Iraq regardless of the intelligence.

 

He not only made the claim but gleefully boasted that he would use them on America. He made himself a problem, and we solved him.

 

It worked for decades in Iran, when the US government made a coup against the democratically elected government and replaced that with their terroristic puppet regime. As for you not remembering a survey...

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/14/world/asia/14minerals.html

he United States has discovered nearly $1 trillion in untapped mineral deposits in Afghanistan, far beyond any previously known reserves and enough to fundamentally alter the Afghan economy and perhaps the Afghan war itself, according to senior American government officials. “There is stunning potential here,” Gen. David H. Petraeus, commander of the United States Central Command / The Pentagon task force has already started trying to help the Afghans set up a system to deal with mineral development.

Generals and the Pentagon busy with mining operations.

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source it

 

Oh.. You meant Afghanistan. Everyone knew about the natural resources in Afghanistan and Balochistan since the 1960s.. The market wasn't there at the time.

But, while we were busy fighting China built Port Gwadar.

The Chinese have several mines, a power plant and a railroad. Does the US have any mining operations in Afghanistan?

 

The exodus from Aleppo reminds me of the forced evacuation of Phnom Penh beginning on 17 April 1975 by the Khmer Rouge. That resulted in years of genocide. Even today, remnants of the KR exist in remote areas of Cambodia and Laos.

Syria is yet another reminder of how man can be so barbaric to his fellow man.

Regards,

Bourne

 

Syria had a serious problem with over population.. Wealthy Syrians back Assad regardless of their religion.. and they are happy to see the poor leave. It is a genocide.

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Syria had a serious problem with over population.. Wealthy Syrians back Assad regardless of their religion.. and they are happy to see the poor leave. It is a genocide.

 

Indeed. I replied to:
The main reason we went to Afghanistan was to restore the supply of drugs that the Taliban had cut off.

And that's just false.

 

I know that was a false claim.

 

How can that be? Khmer Rouge wanted everybody to be illiterate farmers...
Assad aint like that at all.

 

That's not quite true. Hussien did claim that Iraq had WMD's but during a FBI debriefing he stated that he only made that claim in the hopes that the United States would ally with him against Iranian agression. Indeed, Iraq had no WMD's. They had either been destroyed or off shipped outside of Iraq. In sum, Hussien lied.

The invasion of Iraq was completely unnecessary.

After the invasion Iraq was thrown into chaos. Looting and lawlessness were rife. The remnants of the Iraqi military command offered to cooperate and assist the coalition forces in restoring order, but they were rebuffed. In fact, the United States ordered the Iraqi military to be disbanded. A very foolish move. The Iraqi military leadership could have, and was willing to, stabilize the country. Instead Iraq sunk into tribal anarchy which provided the perfect opportunity for Al Qaeda, and later ISIS, to move into Iraq.

If there is one lesson to be learned from the Iraq experience, it is that The United States cannot and must not continue to be the world's policeman. Iraq should have been left to its own devices. It posed no threat to anyone. Instead we squandered the blood of US and coalition forces in return for a failed attempt at democracy costing billions of dollars and without success.

Regards,

Bourne

 

The principle is the same. Remove the population in an effort to buttress an already vicious dictatorial government supported by the Russian dictator Putin. Syria has become Putin's test range for his various weapons systems and the Syrian civilians are his test subjects.

Regards,

Bourne

 

Hindsight being 20/20, we just didn't have the information to disprove Saddam's claims, and I understand Saddam was very skilled in the game of brinkmanship after having played that game for so many years with Iran, but the US doesn't play that game.

We did make several efforts to nation build Iraq back into prosperity, like we did with Japan and Germany, but those Arabs don't want to abide by the agreements they themselves made. Every time we dig a well, they blow it up. Build a school? They blow it up.

The one lesson one should learn from the Iraq experience is that these people are not compatible with Western culture. There is no honor among them, even in defeat.

 

Oh pff. Now civilians who got thrown out by US supported "rebels" for supporting their government can finally return to their houses in Aleppo. Them "rebels" executed a Russian unarmed diplomat. Leaves little doubt how they treat regular civilians.

Neah... The US does that with their napalm bombs and nuclear bombs.
And they still consider that perfectly fine to do.

Really. The US having a problem with Assad throwing little barrel bombs on cities,
while they themselves used napalm and nuclear bombs... what an utter joke of a nation.

 

The disintegration of Iraq was absolutely predictable. That's why oilmen, Arabs, diplomats, historians and even the French said no. That's why I resigned the Republican party in late 2002.

 

I am really very bothered by people who are surprised that this sort of thing happens. It's a war.

That they don't think killing and the separation of families is inevitable in war makes them more likely to advocate for it.

 

Russia has been an unconstructive enabler of Assad.. A half million are dead and more than half the population of Syria is displaced.

Assad is not going to stop.. The Alawite clan is like the Mafia..