Trump Ups U.S. Involvement In Syria - Copies Hillary Policy

No objection ... a choice between plague and cholera let someone no big options to elect!

 

Liars don't earn anyone's trust, but you're willing to risk trusting Trump? Really? I would have thought his track record spoke for itself.
If he even thinks a no-fly zone is a good idea he needs his head examined. Do you think risking a military confrontation with Russia is a smart move? Anyone who does is as deranged as your power-crazed president who seems unable to put two and two together.

 

Wait until he graduates from Crayola and Sharpie to using grown-up pens. Then we're really in trouble.

 

What are you people talking about? In Iraq the US has been sending the terrorists into Syria to reek havoc, and they are armed by us indirectly through Saudi Arabia. If the US really wants to stop terrorism, all it has to do is stop supporting ISIS and Al Nusra and sanction the countries buying the stolen oil. It doesn't need a war with Russia to accomplish it.

All this stuff about 'moderates' is a bunch of garbage. They are nothing but terrorists. Anyway they are working on a new constitution with Iran, Turkey and Russia... At the moment, these 'moderates' are in Moscow.

 

General Flynn quit the government under Obama because of his interventionist policy in Syria... and he has always been Pres. Trump's adviser in foreign policy. Hopefully he will be a voice of reason and prevail.

 

What track record, he was never in politics? Maybe you're thinking of Hillary?

 

I think you either mis-quoted me or misunderstood me.

Most of us realize that the Obama admin was directly arming terrorists, including ISIS. They've even gotten their hands on our tanks fgs.

I don't think that's going to be happening anymore. Personally I think you'll see us joining the Russians in stomping radical Islam into the dirt.

It is what Nostradamus predicted after all

 

Tulsi Gabbard is an amazing woman. She's got more guts than many American men politicians who keep quite like the cowards they are. Kudos to her for completely destroying Obama's administration lying narrative about Syria. There are no moderate rebels in Syria. Only jihadists.

A high-profile Democratic congresswoman says she met with Assad on her secret trip to Syria

http://www.businessinsider.com/tulsi-gabbard-assad-syria-2017-1?op=1

When Tapper noted the crimes Assad has been accused of, Gabbard defended her choice to meet with him.

"Whatever you think about President Assad, the fact is that he is the president of Syria," she said. "In order for any peace agreement, in order for any possibility of a viable peace agreement to occur, there has to be a conversation with him. The Syrian people will determine his outcome and what happens with their government and their future."

Gabbard also repeated a line that the Assad regime has long pushed — that there are no moderate rebels left in Syria.

"Every place that I went, every person that I spoke to, I asked this question to them [about arming moderate rebels], and without hesitation they said, 'There are no moderate rebels,' 'Who are these moderate rebels that people keep speaking of?'" Gabbard said. "Regardless of the name of these groups, the strongest fighting force on the ground in Syria is al-Nusra or Al Qaeda and ISIS. That is a fact."

Assad often argues that his opposition is composed entirely of extremists. This is a convenient argument for his regime — Western governments won't support terrorists, so if Assad frames the Syrian civil war as a conflict between his government and terrorists who oppose him, he looks like the better option.

Gabbard ended her statement with a plea.

"The US must stop supporting terrorists who are destroying Syria and her people," she said. "The US and other countries fueling this war must stop immediately. We must allow the Syrian people to try to recover from this terrible war."

Syria, which has been thoroughly ravaged by a civil war that is nearing its sixth year, is generally inaccessible to Americans. Journalists who have reported from Syria in recent years have coordinated their trips with the Assad government and have had their travels carefully monitored and controlled.

Gabbard visited Damascus, Syria's capital, while she was inside the country. She also visited Aleppo, a major city that has been the scene of intense fighting between the regime and rebels in recent months.

Gabbard is a member of the House Armed Services and Foreign Affairs committees. She met with President-elect Donald Trump in late November to discuss how to avoid "the drumbeats of war" that may lead to US intervention in Syria, among other national-security concerns.

Rep. Tulsi Gabbard met with Assad in Syria, she explains to [MENTION=832]Jake[/MENTION]tapper https://t.co/5icnGfi3Tf https://t.co/gjVYuS4pas
— The Lead CNN (@TheLeadCNN) January 25, 2017

Gabbard's full statement is below:

"My visit to Syria has made it abundantly clear: Our counterproductive regime change war does not serve America's interest, and it certainly isn't in the interest of the Syrian people."

"As I visited with people from across the country, and heard heartbreaking stories of how this war has devastated their lives, I was asked, 'Why is the United States and its allies helping al-Qaeda and other terrorist groups try to take over Syria? Syria did not attack the United States. Al-Qaeda did.' I had no answer."

"I return to Washington, DC with even greater resolve to end our illegal war to overthrow the Syrian government. I call upon Congress and the new Administration to answer the pleas of the Syrian people immediately and support the Stop Arming Terrorists Act. We must stop directly and indirectly supporting terrorists — directly by providing weapons, training and logistical support to rebel groups affiliated with al-Qaeda and ISIS; and indirectly through Saudi Arabia, the Gulf States, and Turkey, who, in turn, support these terrorist groups. We must end our war to overthrow the Syrian government and focus our attention on defeating al-Qaeda and ISIS." ...

 

She is indeed very brave for going there and speaking with the locals. Although she is an Iraq war veteran.

 

THIS ^

We had absolutely ZERO right to try and topple Assad, or any other leader for that reason.

The death of every Syrian and the Muslim invasion into Europe is squarely on the shoulders of Hillary Clinton and Obama.

 

This has been my belief for some time. The majority of Syrians were okay with Assad. And the even greater majority far preferred him to war. It is a small minority of Syrians and extremists from elsewhere who are the cause. We have not served Syrians by backing the rebellion.

 

You just described Hilary Clinton, not Donald Trump. Remember, 63 million Democrats voted for going to war with Russia in voting for Hilary Clinton.

 

It won't end well for anyone.

But I look past this mess. To the actual war itself. Russian nukes vs western missile shields. It's all classified

 

Go Don! Obama used to p*ssyfoot around, so now show him and the world what should happen to anybody who messes with Uncle Sam..

 

To be fair, it may have gone along the same lines of destruction, regardless of our involvement/support.

 

Yes but then EU liberals wouldn't have been able to feed the "it's our fault" excuse to it's population.

But yeah, I don't know if that would have made a difference even then.

In ME countries they murder entire families because monkeys pull off women's veil's, so I doubt the carnage will stop anytime soon.

 

I think so too, and it's kind of what I would expect, because he's a freaking post turtle. He doesn't have a clue about politics. It's like elevating just about any average forum nut to the position.

 

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Yeah it has nothing to do with ISIS and other extremist groups that disagree with Assad....

Every problem in the world is not an Obama run government conspiracy you know

 

Who said Assad had to go? Yeah.

Who toppled Libya? Yeah.

Who started the arab spring? Yeah.

Who's been bombing the ME for 8 years? Yeah.

Who first created then downplayed ISIS? Yeah.

Who is arming terrorists and releasing them from prison?

Who is selling guns to mexican cartels?

Obama and sidekicks.

 

The purpose of instituting a "no fly zone" actually
does work if implemented properly.
Iraq,under Saddam, being the most recent example
of this strategy.
So why should our wanting to install a similar tactic,
a"no fly zone" in Syria be any different?
Because of Russian involvement there?
The Russians possibly would´nt be there,aside from
assistance,had Obama actually accepted Putins
"olive branch",or joint/mutual US/Russia cooperation.
And yet,here we are,where we are,because of indecision.
But this is often what happens when you have two world
leaders having completely conflicting opinions on,and interests
in the Syrian conflict.
One that wants,at any cost btw,to see the Assad regime
in its entirety to be overthrown.
Much like the governments of Egypt,Libya,etc.
While on the other hand,one wishes to protect,not only its
own interests in the region,Russia does have a fully operational
military installation there btw,and support its and a long-time ally
in Assad.
Can a compromise be reached?
I strongly doubt it.

 

Meet the new boss, he's the same as the old boss.

 

No fly zones rests on one question. Are you prepared to shoot down Russian fighter aircraft and put America into a nuclear confrontation with the Kremlin?

 

Did the Russian government trigger a thermonuclear war with IS when it
exploded a civilian jetliner over the Sinai Peninsula?
And besides,Russian military operations,and Iran/Hezbollah/Al Nusra,are
mainly concentrated in the northwest,along the Turkish border,and western
regions of Syria,whereas the US and its coalition of allies are more concerned
with the eastern region of Syria and western/northern Iraq.
And as of Saturday,Trump and Putin seem to be in mutual agreement,not only
on the Syrian conflict,but the threat of terrorism in the region,and Islamic terrorist
organizations as a whole.
But getting back to your previous assumption of the US possibly downing Russian
military aircraft.
As any military/combat veteran knows,accidents not only can,but generally do
happen on occasion.
Especially,as regards aircraft,when those choose to violate either accidentally,
or else deliberately,unauthorized airspace,or zones they will,and can be expected
to be engaged.

 

Turkey and ISIS shot down Russian aircraft.