White House press secretary says border wall will be funded by 20 percent import tax

Why the hell buy from Mexico in the first place?
Personally I always go for stuff with "made in Britain" on the box wherever possible..

PS- about the wall, I'm sure no patriotic American would mind some of his/her tax dollars paying for it until the cash can be recouped later.
Don's simply taking up the patriotic banner of the old American heroes.. -

 

Why do people like you hate Mexicans, they are some of the best people I know. You do realize that a tarriff on Mexico will cost us average Americans money don't you? For instance, avocados are mostly imported from Mexico. Guacamole is too important to be screwed with by dumb asses like Trump.

 

Trump doesn't even make his own products here, talk about being a hypocrite!

 

Some of us poor people living on retirement wages can't pay that much. Too bad for us, huh?

 

Don't be so naive, it isn't as simple as you seem to think. It takes time to build factories, tool them up and make them productive. It takes time to develop new farms to grow the food here we currently import from Mexico and Central and South America.

 

I'm not being naive.

Anyone who thinks Mexico has more leverage, or doesn't understand the overall relationship, are the people who are naive.

I get it, progressives are trying to stop logic and action with tears and handfuls of figurative straws.

The wall is going to be built, and Mexico will be funding it.

Meanwhile american workers will be tooling up and building american companies. All good things.

I'm pretty sure we can grow more tomatoes, don't you think?

 

You appear to be a bigot. Why do you hate Mexicans?

 

Perhaps with trump we can get back to the basic common sense of our founders, which worked for us, our people, for most of our history. It was only when we allowed our politicians to only serve the interests of our elites that the working American started suffering, as these bastards were allowed to hollow this nation out, destroying what the common sense of our founders gave us.

America can only be great, healthy and powerful when we get back out ability to use our own people to make what our huge consumer market consumes. We do not need trade for americans to prosper by their work, and we never have. Trade is supposed to be an icing on the American cake, and never something we must depend upon. We have to protect our own people from slave wages in the world, from cheap labor coming in illegally, just as the founders knew in their wisdom which is why we have always protected our people from the poor of the world who can be exploited for their labor.

The paradigm trump walked into is the results of a scheme to max out elite profits by bottoming out wages, globally, which includes America. That is what drives and motivates this scheme. It does not benefit the people in this nation. It does not benefit the nation of America. In fact it has weakened us in a multitude of ways, economically, socially, fiscally It created a greater disparity in income and wealth, even greater than the Gilded Age, the age of the excess of our old money elites, which resulted in the crash of 29 and a Great Depression that was a factor leading into WW2.

Trump and sanders broke the long taboo of questioning open borders free trade globalization. You were not supposed to be able to even question it. For instead of acting like this was a decision made by our gov't, which Perot tried to warn us about, they act like it was some economic natural law that had to happen because the law forced it to happen. Rubbish. It was a major decision, to deindustrialize America, and send our industry to slave wages to benefit the banking cabal, MNCs, and their owners. There was no law driving, except the law of human nature, one of them, called greed.

I probably would not know any of this stuff if I had been educated in today's universities. But alas, I got my education in the 50s and 60s before the neoliberalism of open border free trade globalization permeated not only academia but in MSM as well. That is why you never got one single news story on the horrible devastation of open borders free trade, perpetrated upon our own people who must work for a living, and what it has done to communities all across this nation. And our leaders allowed and enabled all of this misery and devastation to happen, as they stopped representing our interests and only represented rich special interests, the people who have benefitted tremendously from open borders free trade globalization. The most destructive economic scheme ever perpetrated upon the people of America. It should be a hanging offense what these people have done. IF these men are our friends, I would hate to see our enemies is all I can say.

 

Wow! What a coincidence, this is exactly what a racist SOB would say!

 

Trump should build the wall. Trump should abandon getting Mexico to 'officially' pay for it. The existence of the wall will pay for itself and cost mexico a lot of money. It will reduce the need for patrols at the border due to there being less weak points which need monitoring. It will also hurt the illegal drug trade and will reduce the money that is made in the US and sent back to mexico tax free. It will also create more jobs that are taxed and not illegals being paid under the table.

 

free trade was an experiment to rebuild europe after world war 2 by risking the living standard of the poorer half of America, they wanted it to run its course and drain what wealth they could get away with stealing from the people until they complained.

it is also to prevent world wars, so the money of the rich can be safe.

President Trumps cabinet are supporters of NATO and free trade, the republican and democrat parties are bought and paid for by free trade, it will not be stopped just slowed.

all they have to do is appease a simple majority of Americans with welfare and high wage low skilled work to continue the trick.

 

The word is a nuclear china shop with economies interwoven, every time your president bullies a diplomat it causes ripples throughout the world and he loves it... the power.

But what motivates Trump is oil and gas. It's why Tilllerson is Secretary of State, it's his connection with Putin and it's his real problem with the Chinese (South China Sea), his other policies as well as his complaints about China is just smoke and mirrors, keeping you happy while he and Putin suck the planet dry.

 

Even if the 20% surcharge results in moving companies back to the U.S., they will result in few if any new jobs. The kinds of manufacturing involved here will be done faster and easier and cheaper by robotics, so robots will take the jobs promised by Trump to his supporters. You see, immigrants aren't the ones taking American jobs. . .robots are. Trump hasn't even discussed this problem in America, and his non-thinking supporters are clueless. Yet, that's the real problem, and it won't get addressed because it's not on most voter's radar.

 

Amen. This is the central point and they just refuse to get it.

 

who designs, builds, program, repair, and maintains those robots?

 

We want everyone in the US to be able to get a halfway decent job, even if they can't make it through college.

You are the bigot.

 

free trade stripped away manufacturing jobs middle class paying jobs. middle class paying jobs that didn't require a college education that most cant afford

and by stripping away those middle class jobs what you end up with is a two class society like we are seeing today. the ones that cant afford to go to college end up with minimum wage part time jobs flipping burgers, waiting tables, washing cars you know low pay service industry jobs. when before they could get a good job in a manufacturing plant with retirement and heath insurance. then you have those that can afford to go to college and they end up with above middle class jobs so you end up with the rich and the peasants servicing the rich

 

China's planning to switch over to mostly high tech products for export soon anyway. They can do this and still provide enough jobs because their agriculture sector still employs a lot of people...and if they are wise enough to continue with the self-sustaining organic techniques they have used for centuries it will probably continue to do so.

 

He means what he says about his GOALS. If anyone can come up with a better means, IMO he looks at that.

 

In my observation college grads haven't been doing very well, either, except for some of the high tech ones and the "connected" ones. Exceptions are a few of the more savvy self-made types.

 

We are getting the stuff we get from Mexico now because that is the most efficient way to get that stuff. The next most efficient source will be a more expensive way to get that stuff, and some of it will still be more efficient to get from Mexico even after the tariff.

American consumers will pay for the wall by way of tariffs on the stuff they still buy from Mexico.
Mexican exporters will be hurt, but will not pay for the wall in any way.

 

no we wont. We will buy made in america products for slightly higher prices or the same.

When Trump says 20% tariff he isnt really talking to mexico. They really have no say. Trump is talking to american companies outsourcing labor to mexico. He is saying..... "yes i really did mean it in my campaign. Now get your greedy tails back here and help to rebuild our country with american Labor. Your reward will be lower corporate tax. Stay in mexico and i will tax you out of business. This is not Obama's america anymore."

Business negotiations have their own language. everything is numbers and profit margins... thats it.

 

Who do you think will win out in the end?
A career politician that is controlled by big business,or a career businessman turned politician
that isn´t accountable to anyone but the American people.
Besides,Trump already warned the American people that things could temporarily get more
expensive.
Main thing,the wall will be built along the southern border,the BP and other law enforcement
agencies will take into account not merely a possible tunneling system under that wall,by applying
sensors etc.,but also a continuous above ground surveillance of that wall.
One way or another,Mexico,as Trump has already suggested they would,will in fact pay for that
wall.
Btw,I´m personally on board with that sheriff´s wanting to use criminal inmates currently residing
in US correctional facilities constructing that very same wall along the southern US border.
Now,after Trump´s temporary ban on immigrants entering the US from what,7 Muslim nations,does
anyone now still think the wall along the southern border won´t be built.
President Trump appears to be a man of his word.
And that´s a good thing.
And he´s only been in office a week.
But it appears his administration is wasting no time,but rather hitting the
ground running.

 

he is knocking it out of the park. above and beyond what anyone thought.

The left is struggling to stay relevant trying to get celebrities to make appearances and starting fights or vandalizing property calling it protesting (LOL) because nobody is listening to anything they have to say anymore.

I am because its like comedy to me. Everyone on the left has had nervous breakdowns it seams and cant hold a clear thought. They start trying to speak and then just out of nowhere start saying bizarre things referring to Hitler or Cheetos. They will literally say anything to try and stay relevant. Its comic gold.

 

Yes the world's economies run on oil and gas and Trump wants to make sure we have a steady supply, your point is?