Obama Killed a 16-Year-Old American in Yemen. Trump Just Killed His 8-Year-Old Sister

robini123 · Jan 31, 2017

I think it is rare if ever that a president leaves office without blood on his hands.

Eadora · Feb 1, 2017

Margot2 said: ↑

Actually, Merwin is correct. I have been to the mountains in Asir on the Yemen border..

KSA has provided Yemen with Humanitarian aid off and on for 40 years..
They have built universities, hospitals and clinics..
and they have provided food, gasoline and business start up money and expertise.

The problem is that there are too many different terrorist groups in Yemen
and they are awash in weapons. KSA has taken in 1 million Yemeni refugees
but the are struggling to keep the suicide bombers out.

Its always sad when children die, however in Sunday Seal Team raid half
the combattants in that firefight were women.
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???"However"???
So what you're telling us regarding Yemeni women, is that they too are ready to defend their homes
against a Arrogant American Aggression conducted by a gang of drugged Up Seals However already ???
............................................................................................................................. WTF is the matter with you people ?

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Here be a Legit Seal VID - for all you prospective Military Hero's

Former Navy SEAL on Psychiatric Drugging of our Military
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVCUIxgOEno

Did you get it when this guy tells us - "They gave me METHADRINE to help me sleep"
I can't help wondering if he ran into any women or 8 yr old kids during his career as a Seal
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As for the rest of your word clutter, it would be laughable if it didn't STINK so bad

Saudi Arabia is perhaps the most Poisonous - the most TOXIC regime on the planet
And any Idiot, Immoral Government that chooses to feed off of that apple for the privilege
of drinking Saudi Oil or any temporary tactical Political advantage that these Wahhabi's
might offer, is undoubtedly very sick and will eventually become - 'sick unto death'

Abjure your Ignorance - Become Informed

Saudi Arabia Uncovered
Hidden Camera in Saudi Arabia SHOCKING

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-0ua23x89I

[video=youtube;u-0ua23x89I]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-0ua23x89I[/video]

Saudi Arabia ‘Deliberately Targeting
Impoverished Yemen’s Farms And Agricultural Industry’
Increasing evidence suggests Kingdom is not merely bombing civilians in neighboring country,
but systematically targeting infrastructure survivors will need to avoid starvation when the war is over

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...reach-of-the-geneva-conventions-a7376576.html

Saudi Arabia and al-Qaeda Unite in Yemen
Al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula has established itself as a de facto partner of the U.S.-backed
Saudi-led campaign in Yemen
http://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com/2015/09/23/saudi-arabia-and-al-qaeda-unite-in-yemen/

America Should Quit Saudi Arabia's War In Yemen:
The Senseless Killing Must Stop
The Yemeni people are paying the price for Riyadh’s determination to reinstate an unpopular government
friendly to the royal family. This commitment to rule or ruin apparently comes from deputy Crown Prince
Mohammed bin Salman, known more for his ambition than judgment.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/dougban...the-senseless-killing-must-stop/#2402d1c116a4

Why Saudi Arabia is Hammering Yemen
http://nationalinterest.org/feature/why-saudi-arabia-hammering-yemen-15748

The Failure of Saudi Intervention in Yemen
Although Saudi military action against the rebels has intensified, the intervention has led to few successes
and has caused both a political and humanitarian catastrophe, ultimately leading to the loss of more than 2,300 lives.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/khair...of-saudi-intervention-in-yemen_b_8469744.html

Yemen: The Graveyard of the Obama Doctrine
The human costs of facilitating Saudi Arabia’s proxy war
https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2016/09/yemen-saudi-arabia-obama-riyadh/501365/

Saudi Arabia Is Committing War Crimes in Yemen
How can the United States, Britain, and France keep shipping Riyadh arms when its pilots
are dropping bombs on innocent civilians?
http://foreignpolicy.com/2016/03/25/civilian-casualties-war-crimes-saudi-arabia-yemen-war/

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Margot2 · Feb 1, 2017

Al Qaeda is training Yemeni women as warriors.

I saw your list.. Saudi Arabia doesn't want anything in Yemen.. Do you understand that?

Eadora · Feb 1, 2017

Margot2 said: ↑

Al Qaeda is training Yemeni women as warriors.

I saw your list.. Saudi Arabia doesn't want anything in Yemen.. Do you understand that?
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Be Informed - They want DEAD Shias - as they can manage
................................................... Their survival and their sick Wahhabi doctrine compels them

The Saudi Royalty lives in an abject, teeth cracking FEAR of a Shia rebellion
And they realize that the Yemen insurgence has every possibility of spreading
to the oil concession they are presently allowed to hold for Corporate American

& that they may end up doing the mid air kick jive from lamp posts in Riyadh if they allow
things to continue in the direction things are presently headed - They are afraid - very AFRAID

If you can't realize or admit to that simple FACT - Stand accused of " Willful Ignorance"

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Eadora · Feb 1, 2017

Margot2 said: ↑

Al Qaeda is training Yemeni women as warriors.
I saw your list.. Saudi Arabia doesn't want anything in Yemen.. Do you understand that?
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BTW
Just to clear up a little Disinformation that's spread like a rancid butter on your post
......................... - It was NOT Al Qaeda women & kids that these Seals murdered
.......................................................................................................... It was Houthi's

Al Qaeda in Yemen are Saudi sponsored - stickily off limits to SEALS in Yemen

Al Qaeda are Sunni - Houthi's are Shia - BIG difference in that part of the World

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JakeJ · Feb 1, 2017

Horhey said: ↑

Nah, (*)(*)(*)(*) that (*)(*)(*)(*). He assumes the U.S. and its Arab partners have been fighting a clean war in Yemen despite the MOUNTAINS of reports from Human Rights Watch and Amnesty International stating the opposite. No research is needed for him to find out the facts because he doesn't care. He is also using a justification many genocidal governments have used to defend their crimes.
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A clean war against insurgents who do not wear uniforms, acting and hiding within their own people, is not possible.

If German soldiers had continued to fight in Germany in WWII, but took off their uniforms, were we then required to stop and give up? Civilians have to get out of the way of war, best they can. That is the nature of wars and revolutions. It is inherently so, unfortunately.

JakeJ · Feb 1, 2017

Navy Seals should not be in Yemen. That is Yemen's and Saudi Arabia's problem. It is understandable that Saudi Arabia does not want a terrorist country on their border. Sell the Saudis the weapons, but it's their fight.

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There is nothing in the USA's interest in Syria or seeing Assad deposed on behalf of the men who laugh while cutting off a little boy's head, ie the "moderates" we fight for. But for the West pouring weapons to those men there would be no civil war and no civil war deaths.

Margot2 · Feb 1, 2017

Eadora said: ↑

BTW
Just to clear up a little Disinformation that's spread like a rancid butter on your post
......................... - It was NOT Al Qaeda women & kids that these Seals murdered
.......................................................................................................... It was Houthi's

Al Qaeda in Yemen are Saudi sponsored - stickily off limits to SEALS in Yemen

Al Qaeda are Sunni - Houthi's are Shia - BIG difference in that part of the World

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The Seals went after AQ... The Saudis are busy fighting the al Houthis.

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JakeJ said: ↑

Navy Seals should not be in Yemen. That is Yemen's and Saudi Arabia's problem. It is understandable that Saudi Arabia does not want a terrorist country on their border. Sell the Saudis the weapons, but it's their fight.

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There is nothing in the USA's interest in Syria or seeing Assad deposed on behalf of the men who laugh while cutting off a little boy's head, ie the "moderates" we fight for. But for the West pouring weapons to those men there would be no civil war and no civil war deaths.
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Iran wants to control the Bab al Mandab and the Straits of Hormuz... access to the Indian Ocean from the Red Sea and the Persian Gulf.

Eadora · Feb 1, 2017

JakeJ said: ↑

A clean war against insurgents who do not wear uniforms, acting and hiding within their own people, is not possible.

If German soldiers had continued to fight in Germany in WWII, but took off their uniforms, were we then required
to stop and give up? Civilians have to get out of the way of war, best they can. That is the nature of wars and revolutions. It is inherently so, unfortunately.
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Absolutely ABSURD - Ridiculous ! -
In Yemen you are dealing it a home grown Insurgency - A GRASS ROOTS Civil War if you will -

So you can't Legitimately rise up against Oppression unless you wear a Bona-Fide Uniform

Where are these peasants going to buy their Uniforms let alone afford Them ?
...................... so that they may be deemed Legitimate, in you twisted book.

They are NOT hiding among their own people - They, in pointed FACT - ARE - their own people

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Margot2 · Feb 1, 2017

Eadora said: ↑

Absolutely ABSURD - Ridiculous ! -
In Yemen you are dealing it a home grown Insurgency - A GRASS ROOTS Civil War if you will -

So you can't Legitimately rise up against Oppression unless you wear a Bona-Fide Uniform

Where are these peasants going to buy their Uniforms let alone afford Them ?
...................... so that they may be deemed Legitimate, in you twisted book.

They are NOT hiding among their own people - They, in pointed FACT - ARE - their own people

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The fighters in Yemen are mostly renegades from Afghanistan and al Houthis.. but you also have the monarchists and the Communists.

Eadora · Feb 1, 2017

Margot2 said: ↑

The Seals went after AQ... The Saudis are busy fighting the al Houthis.

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When you make a mistake - & make a fool of yourself - Admit IT !

I admit that You are right on this point - & that I am WRONG
Perhaps I should slow down and be more careful
Thank you for the correction Margot2 a worthy adversary

My other contentions regarding Seals & the polluted Saudi regime stand
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Thehumankind · Feb 1, 2017

The supporter does not entirely know how things are being manipulated in the battlefield,
I could say that was really Yemeni blood in Yemeni hands for it's the Yemeni army who are engaging into battle and are the group who asks for air support of course.

http://yemen.liveuamap.com/en/2016/...emeni-army-shelling-houthi-positions/comments

Horhey · Feb 2, 2017

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Wait a minute. There's a crucial point I missed. The killing of the 8-year-old girl may have been a targeted assassination, like her brother was. The CIA also engages in "double tap" drone strikes, where an attack on a suspected terrorist is followed by a second strike targeting first responders or the first target's funeral.

Obama Killed a 16-Year-Old American in Yemen. Trump Just Killed His 8-Year-Old Sister, The Intercept

In 2010, President Obama directed the CIA to assassinate an American citizen in Yemen, Anwar al-Awlaki, despite the fact that he had never been charged with (let alone convicted of) any crime, and the agency successfully carried out that order a year later with a September 2011 drone strike. While that assassination created widespread debate — the once-again-beloved ACLU sued Obama to restrain him from the assassination on the ground of due process and then, when that suit was dismissed, sued Obama again after the killing was carried out — another drone killing carried out shortly thereafter was perhaps even more significant yet generated relatively little attention.

Two weeks after the killing of Awlaki, a separate CIA drone strike in Yemen killed his 16-year-old American-born son, Abdulrahman, along with the boy’s 17-year-old cousin and several other innocent Yemenis. The U.S. eventually claimed that the boy was not their target but merely “collateral damage.” Abdulrahman’s grief-stricken grandfather, Nasser al-Awlaki, urged the Washington Post “to visit a Facebook memorial page for Abdulrahman,” which explained: “Look at his pictures, his friends, and his hobbies. His Facebook page shows a typical kid.”

Few events pulled the mask off Obama officials like this one. It highlighted how the Obama administration was ravaging Yemen, one of the world’s poorest countries: just weeks after he won the Nobel Prize, Obama used cluster bombs that killed 35 Yemeni women and children. Even Obama-supporting liberal comedians mocked the arguments of the Obama DOJ for why it had the right to execute Americans with no charges: “Due Process Just Means There’s A Process That You Do,” snarked Stephen Colbert. And a firestorm erupted when former Obama press secretary Robert Gibbs offered a sociopathic justification for killing the Colorado-born teenager, apparently blaming him for his own killing by saying he should have “had a more responsible father.”

In a hideous symbol of the bipartisan continuity of U.S. barbarism, Nasser al-Awlaki just lost another one of his young grandchildren to U.S. violence. On Sunday, the Navy’s SEAL Team 6, using armed Reaper drones for cover, carried out a commando raid on what it said was a compound harboring officials of Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula. A statement issued by President Trump lamented the death of an American service member and several others who were wounded, but made no mention of any civilian deaths. U.S. military officials initially denied any civilian deaths, and (therefore) the CNN report on the raid said nothing about any civilians being killed.

But reports from Yemen quickly surfaced that 30 people were killed, including 10 women and children. Among the dead: the 8-year-old granddaughter of Nasser al-Awlaki, Nawar, who was also the daughter of Anwar Awlaki.

Ben Norton
@BenjaminNorton

This is the 8-year-old girl killed in US raid in Yemen, Arabic media reports http://www.bawabatii.com/news104977.html
US killed her teen American brother too pic.twitter.com/QP0TsgdIfq

As noted by my colleague Jeremy Scahill — who extensively interviewed the grandparents in Yemen for his book and film on Obama’s “Dirty Wars” — the girl “was shot in the neck and killed,” bleeding to death over the course of two hours. “Why kill children?” the grandfather asked. “This is the new (U.S.) administration — it’s very sad, a big crime.”

The New York Times yesterday reported that military officials had been planning and debating the raid for months under the Obama administration, but Obama officials decided to leave the choice to Trump. The new president personally authorized the attack last week. They claim that the “main target” of the raid “was computer materials inside the house that could contain clues about future terrorist plots.” The paper cited a Yemeni official saying that “at least eight women and seven children, ages 3 to 13, had been killed in the raid,” and that the attack also “severely damaged a school, a health facility and a mosque.”

As my colleague Matthew Cole reported in great detail just weeks ago, Navy SEAL Team 6, for all its public glory, has a long history of “‘revenge ops,’ unjustified killings, mutilations, and other atrocities.” And Trump notoriously vowed during the campaign to target not only terrorists but also their families. All of that demands aggressive, independent inquiries into this operation.

Perhaps most tragic of all is that — just as was true in Iraq — al Qaeda had very little presence in Yemen before the Obama administration began bombing and droning it and killing civilians, thus driving people into the arms of the militant group. As the late, young Yemeni writer Ibrahim Mothana told Congress in 2013:

Drone strikes are causing more and more Yemenis to hate America and join radical militants. … Unfortunately, liberal voices in the United States are largely ignoring, if not condoning, civilian deaths and extrajudicial killings in Yemen.

During George W. Bush’s presidency, the rage would have been tremendous. But today there is little outcry, even though what is happening is in many ways an escalation of Mr. Bush’s policies. …

Defenders of human rights must speak out. America’s counterterrorism policy here is not only making Yemen less safe by strengthening support for AQAP [al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula] but it could also ultimately endanger the United States and the entire world.
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New Stanford/NYU study documents the civilian terror from Obama's drones, Guardian

New research shows the terrorizing impact of drones in Pakistan, false statements from US officials, and how it increases the terror threat

A vitally important and thoroughly documented new report on the impact of Obama's drone campaign has just been released by researchers at NYU School of Law and Stanford University Law School. Entitled "Living Under Drones: Death, Injury and Trauma to Civilians From US Drone Practices in Pakistan", the report details the terrorizing effects of Obama's drone assaults as well as the numerous, highly misleading public statements from administration officials about that campaign. The study's purpose was to conduct an "independent investigations into whether, and to what extent, drone strikes in Pakistan conformed to international law and caused harm and/or injury to civilians".

The report is "based on over 130 detailed interviews with victims and witnesses of drone activity, their family members, current and former Pakistani government officials, representatives from five major Pakistani political parties, subject matter experts, lawyers, medical professionals, development and humanitarian workers, members of civil society, academics, and journalists." Witnesses "provided first-hand
accounts of drone strikes, and provided testimony about a range of issues, including the missile strikes themselves, the strike sites, the victims' bodies, or a family member or members killed or injured in the strike".

Here is the powerful first three paragraphs of the report, summarizing its main findings:

Whilte noting that it is difficult to obtain precise information on the number of civilian deaths "because of US efforts to shield the drone program from democratic accountability", the report nonetheless concludes: "while civilian casualties are rarely acknowledged by the US government, there is significant evidence that US drone strikes have injured and killed civilians."

But beyond body counts, there's the fact that "US drone strike policies cause considerable and under-accounted for harm to the daily lives of ordinary civilians, beyond death and physical injury":

In other words, the people in the areas targeted by Obama's drone campaign are being systematically terrorized. There's just no other word for it. It is a campaign of terror - highly effective terror - regardless of what noble progressive sentiments one wishes to believe reside in the heart of the leader ordering it. And that's precisely why the report, to its great credit, uses that term to describe the Obama policy: the drone campaign "terrorizes men, women, and children".

Along the same lines, note that the report confirms what had already been previously documented: the Obama campaign's despicable (and likely criminal) targeting of rescuers who arrive to provide aid to the victims of the original strike. Noting that even funerals of drone victims have been targeted under Obama, the report documents that the US has "made family members afraid to attend funerals". The result of this tactic is as predictable as it is heinous:

"Secondary strikes have discouraged average civilians from coming to one another's rescue, and even inhibited the provision of emergency medical assistance from humanitarian workers."

In the hierarchy of war crimes, deliberately targeting rescuers and funerals - so that aid workers are petrified to treat the wounded and family members are intimidated out of mourning their loved ones - ranks rather high, to put that mildly. Indeed, the US itself has long maintained that such "secondary strikes" are a prime hallmark of some of the world's most despised terrorist groups.

Perhaps worst of all, the report details at length that the prime excuse offered by Obama defenders for this continuous killing - it Keeps Us Safe™ by killing The Terrorists™ - is dubious "at best"; indeed, the opposite is more likely true:

All the way back in 2004, the Rumsfeld Pentagon commissioned a study to determine the causes of anti-US terrorism, and even it concluded: "Muslims do not 'hate our freedom,' but rather, they hate our policies." Running around the world beating your chest, bellowing "we're at war!", and bombing multiple Muslim countries does not keep one safe. It manifestly does the opposite, since it ensures that even the most rational people will calculate that targeting Americans with violence in response is just and necessary to deter further aggression.

A one-day attack on US soil eleven years ago unleashed a never-ending campaign of violence around the world from the target and its allies. Is it really a challenge to understand that continuous bombings and civilian-killing assaults over many years, in many Muslim countries, will generate the same desire for aggression and vengeance against the US?

Time and again, those who have attempted to perpetrate attacks on US soil have cited the Muslim children and other innocent human beings extinguished by Obama's drones. Recall the words of the attempted Times Square bomber, Pakistani-American Faisal Shahzad, at his sentencing hearing when the federal judge presiding over his case, Miriam Goldman Cedarbaum, asked incredulously how he could possibly use violence that he knew would result in the deaths even of innocent children -- as though she were literally unaware that her own government continuously does exactly that:

"'Well, the drone hits in Afghanistan and Iraq, they don't see children, they don't see anybody. They kill women, children, they kill everybody. It's a war, and in war, they kill people. They're killing all Muslims' . . . .

"'I am part of the answer to the U.S. terrorizing the Muslim nations and the Muslim people. And, on behalf of that, I'm avenging the attack. Living in the United States, Americans only care about their own people, but they don't care about the people elsewhere in the world when they die.'"

The minute he was apprehended by US authorities, Shahzad, as reported by the Washington Post, "told agents that he was motivated by opposition to U.S. policy in the Muslim world, officials said. 'One of the first things he said was, 'How would you feel if people attacked the United States? You are attacking a sovereign Pakistan.'"

Perhaps most importantly, the report documents the extreme levels of propaganda used by the western press to deceive their citizens into believing pure myths about the drone campaign. As I've argued before, the worst of these myths is the journalistic mimicry of the term "militants" to describe drone victims even when those outlets have no idea who was killed or whether that term is accurate (indeed, the term itself is almost as ill-defined as "terrorist"). This media practice became particularly inexcusable after the New York Times revealed in May that "Mr. Obama embraced a disputed method for counting civilian casualties that did little to box him in. It in effect counts all military-age males in a strike zone as combatants."

Incredibly, even after that radical redefinition was revealed, and even after the Obama administration got caught red-handed spewing demonstrable falsehoods about the identity of drone victims, US media outlets continued to use the term "militant" to describe drone victims. The new report urges that this practice stop:

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bretzter · Feb 2, 2017

Like you personally care,or are simply making
either a politically motivated,which is more than
obvious,or simply a rethoric statement.
You tell me,as only you yourself know the workings
of your own mind,its accusations and assumptions.

Horhey · Feb 2, 2017

bretzter said: ↑

Like you personally care,or are simply making
either a politically motivated,which is more than
obvious,or simply a rethoric statement.
You tell me,as only you yourself know the workings
of your own mind,its accusations and assumptions.
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By your twisted logic, homicide detectives should ignore all leads and leave all suspects alone.

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