Trump's Muslim ban will make us more secure ?!

Trump Lets Saudis Off His ‘Muslim Ban’. Who are the “Real Sponsors of Terrorism”?

http://www.globalresearch.ca/trump-...urce=article_page&utm_medium=related_articles

One of the big election questions, at least in my mind, was whether or not Trump's "anti -establishment" rhetoric was just hot air. We knew Hillary was bought and paid for but we did not know for sure about Trump.

Wonder no more !

Not a month in office and Trump's is already worshiping at the trough of the establishment. Get ready for yet another establishment clown puppet - same as Obama.

Taliban, Al Qaeda/Al Nusra, ISIS, Boko Haram, Al Shabaab

Anyone ever heard of these groups ? Are these not the big bad terrorists that are so scary that large numbers of US citizens have been reduced cowering in the corner, begging to give up rights and freedoms to purchase a little more security ?

Was it not Al Qaeda that some planes into a few buildings 15 years ago ? Did not Bush use this incident to capitalize on the "fear factor" - using fear of a foreign threat to take away individual liberty ? Did he not in fact make it our patriotic duty to give up these rights and freedoms ? "Patriot Act"

The one thing that all the aforementioned group have in common was that they all share the same Saudi inspired Sunni/Salafi extremist Islamist jihadist ideology.

Saud has been arming and supporting these groups and exporting this extremist ideology all over the world for decades.

Yet ... somehow ... Saud did not make Trump's list.

Trump is going to make us secure by banning a few Muslim nations from travel to the US but, forgets to include some of the Muslim nations that are the biggest security risk.

Let the Clown show begin !

 

f it is state sponsored or the state does not have any control whatsoever, then those could be considered as sources of threats.

 

Saud (the house of Saud) giving arms and support to groups such as Al Qaeda/Al Nusra, ISIS, Islamic Front and similar of that ilk is "State Sponsored"

 

Trumps Muslim Ban, which remember is only the beginning is looking very like something else. Here you are holding the Former Norway PM for an hour because he had visited Iran in 2014 - his passport made clear his former position as Norway's PM. Looks like now anyone who has ever visited a Muslim country is a suspected terrorist as far as the US is concerned even if they be Previous Prime Ministers of other countries. such arrogance.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...eld-washington-dulles-airport-2014-visit-iran

so will it make you more secure? Well it is not against people from the countries where terrorists who have attacked you came from so does not look likely. Indeed everyone suggests that it is likely to lead to more not less terrorism against you.

Secure, I guess only if the US believes it does not need any allies in the world as seen from it's treatment of the ex PM of Norway and as Tusk has already said, the current US is probably the biggest threat to the EU as well as the concern they showed at their meeting today and total lack of interest in Ms May thinking she can act as a bridge between Europe and the US. I do not know how secure a country on it's own can be in the modern world but I suspect a lot less than you have been up till now.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/feb/03/eu-leaders-trump-may-attempt-act-bridge-malta-summit

 

Someone once said, 'a terrorist is someone who has a bomb but not an air force'.

 

That is for Iran, I guess.
I mean state sponsored against the USA.

 

That guy who attacked those French soldiers at The Louvre.
What country was he from again?


And when do we ban them?

 

The title of this thread is a life. It is Obama's list.

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The Democratic Party is absolute in their opinion that no one may be banned.

 

Over 1 Billion Muslims are free to Travel to the US, so how is this a Muslim ban?

 

1 billion muslims in the USA. The Trump Supporters will welcome them with open arms for freedom.

 

Mixed reaction to blocked ban...

U.S. Customs give airlines green light to board all visa-holders after Seattle ruling
February 4, 2017 - U.S. Customs & Border Protection (CBP) has informed U.S. airlines that they can once again board travelers who had been barred by an executive order last week, after it was blocked nationwide on Friday by a federal judge in Seattle, an airline official told Reuters.

See also:

Airlines in Iran: No tickets for Iranians holding US visas
Feb 4,`17 -- Foreign airlines have instructed Iranian travel agencies not to sell U.S.-bound flight tickets to Iranians holding U.S. visas after President Donald Trump's executive order banning visas for seven Muslim countries, including Iran.

Related:

The Latest: Qatar airline allowing Muslims to travel to US
Feb 4,`17 -- The Latest on reaction to a court order blocking U.S. President Donald Trump's ban on travelers and immigrants from seven predominantly Muslim countries (all times local):

 

Even your judiciary are traitors. Either that or extremely dumb. Actually most judges are dumb!

 

Tuesday next week Trump will follow up this terrorist ban with a ban of white nationalists since they've been responsible for more US terrorism than anyone else since 911.

First part alt fact, second part fact.

 

If whatever ban were against Muslims,they would be
seperating them into the Sunni/Shiite etc. sects of
Islam.
Who is this guy for example claiming the ANF is
supported by the Saudi´s?
So much he knows about the religion of Islam or
the region.
And ISIS and IS are one in the same guy.

 

You people seriously need to turn off the fake news. This can't possibly be a muslim ban, because there are still 40 Muslim majority countries NOT affected. You know why? Probably because they have strong, centralized governments in place.

Besides, in 2015 "fake tears" Chuck Schumer supported the so called, "ban" and extreme vetting. The only thing that changed was the Presidency.
[video=youtube;mDrj_kFzhso]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDrj_kFzhso[/video]

 

Well that and the average IQ of Washington dropped about twenty points.

 

Yes it will make you safer. You'll be able to stop worrying about terrorists trying to kill you and get back to shooting each other in small to medium sized groups like you did when i was a kid.

 

Egypt. Not one of the banned countries

 

US court - is the main corrupt. Apparently Soros pays well.

They want in United States and angered by a ban.

 

The Judiciary simply apply the Law that the Legislature have laid down. They are not traitors. Neither are they at liberty to ignore the Law just because their President disobeys it. The Law counts, not personal feelings. And most Judges are sensible people with considerable experience.

 

Like any other profession, some are and some aren't. We've seen enough perverse judgements and findings over the years in this country to prove that.

 

Regardless of him being right or wrong, how can you say he is a puppet of the establishment ? what "establishment" is that ? he carves his path throu the establishment as far as I can tell, throu Morals and laws and Judges.

 

I think that depends on what you mean by 'perverse judgements' but that's outside the remit of this thread.

 

Flawed, or incompetently arrived at.

 

Just think. When Trump finally has his wish of those from the 7 countries getting banned, there will be rainbows and unicorns in every state of the US with the murder numbers dropping from 16,000 to 16,000, gun incidents dropping from 50,000 to 50,000, with everyone really happy and the coal miners will have their jobs back and the terrorism from those countries will drop from zero to zero.