Saudi Arabia Financed ISIS, Jihadists

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  1. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Not only do they fund violent extremists, but the 9-11 Commission found that they stood in the way of our terrorism investigations before 9-11 and even after 9-11.

    they are also the number one nationality of foreign extremist fighters in Syria.
     
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    I kinda of thought this topic would bring some response, and that of the right wingers who could care less about human rights, the Constitution, and various other issues such as an intelligent response, that their tweeter in chief has created. The point of the topic was that from the beginning Trump has ignored traditional methods of doing things, and is not concerned about public opinion, or the lives of others. Many of the thousands that were sent back have spent at least 18 months, to two years, gaining their visas. Now they have to start all over again, and this could mean death to many. Even those who worked for the government as interpreters are being sent back. Then you have the issue of Trump doing business in these countries, not the ones he banned. Then too, the issue of Obama is irrelevant save for the Trimpkins wanting yet another excuse to justify their voting for a lying, adulterous, thieving, coward.

    I hear a lot of talk from the "talking heads" as to how Trump "likes a fight" thus his denigration of judges, etc., those who can't fight back. In my lifetime I have noticed that most cowards are bullies when they have others protecting them. That is Trump. He has hired private security to back him up all his cowardly life, now he has the taxpayer providing it.

    Makes me wonder what kind of character his followers have.

    Then too, why is he in Florida wasting more taxpayer dollars? Isn't his home in NY, or the White House, good enough for him? After all the whining the right wing did about Obama's trips, well....
     
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    Everyone knows that but the deniers are just playing dumb in order to attack Trump. Hillary taught them well on how to be liars.
     
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    And that is a shame!

    Time to reverse course.
     
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    They maybe the worst thing that has happened to Islam. Imagine what Christianty would be like if the US GDP had been run through the Westborough Church for 50 years and they had funded affiliates through Christiandom.
     
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    You should have passed that word to Obama and his minions when he was still around.
     
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    I just hate it when Americans are so bloody ignorant.
     
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    Were Democrats complaining when GW Bush stopped them from departing the USA on 911?
     
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    Americans don't care.
     
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    What cracks me up so much is the outrage.

    There are 55 Muslim nations.

    Trump halts 7 from entry and the world came to an end for Democrats?

    Trump lets 48 enter and we are told he enacted a Muslim Ban?

    Funny innit?

    Now we have Democrats screaming to also ban Saudi Arabia?

    See why [MENTION=51832]Margot[/MENTION] 2 you picked the wrong people to back?
     
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    its a partial Muslim ban
     
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    In 1994 Saudi Arabia revoked Osama Bin Laden's citizenship and declared AQ a terrorist organization.. so he wanted 9-11 to have a Saudi face...
     
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    and the Saudis raised money for Al Qaeda.

    and funded terrorists in the Syrian civil war.

    and sent thousands of fighters to Syria
     
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    If Saudi Arabia liked Bin Laden, why did they give him the boot?

    Key too is if Trump banned Muslims, why did he leave off 48 Muslim nations?
     
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    <Rule 3> KSA has been aggressively fighting terrorism since the 1990s and have been a US intelligence partner since 2000.

    ...there are 40,000 Americans living and working in KSA who know a great deal more than you.. and they don't fall for lies and propaganda.
     
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    its a partial Muslim ban
     
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    Just about the time I have hope you are smart, you pull that cheap stunt.

    I was agreeing with you for the most part. I know why Saudi Arabia is our ally. I know what they did to Bin Laden. Guess how long I knew that? I have been aware of this since Clinton still was president.

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    Muslim smushlim. We know why those 7 alleged nations got picked.
     
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    yes, cause Trump has no investments there
     
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    Never a larger untruth gets told. No idea why you have no clue who Charlie Wilson was and what he did for the Mujahadeen.

    Wilson took funds allocated for one purpose and by his power alone, (well, he had the full support of Tip O'Neil) shoved them to the CIA who used the funds to wage war vs the Soviets by directly arming the fighters who fought the Soviets. Bin Laden was no more than a contractor who created a base to train them at. Ergo, the name Al Qaeda. This word means the base. Ask [MENTION=51832]Margot[/MENTION] 2 if you don't believe it.
     
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    Even were Trump to have investments there, and who cares anyway, there is no purpose to focusing on Saudi Arabia. They kicked out Bin Laden anyway which is why he was in Afghanistan as a contractor.

    Were Trump to ban muslims, he had 55 nations to ban.

    Aside from that, it was Obama's list. Ask why Obama refused to list Saudi Arabia?
     
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    America aside from stragulation/government/regs.
    The US can process,if granted the authority inside
    its own borders and territories,its own oil,natural
    and otherwise.
    Welcome to the world of raffinery.
    For you can have all of the oil in the world,but no
    raffinary,of what really is worth that consumption
    of oil?
    For without its first being raffinied,it´s worthless.
    Welcome to what is referred to as its being the2
    "Lude of crude":
     
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    this was just the beginning.

    read the EO, it allows more nations to be added.

    Thank God a Patriotic Federal Judge put a stop to Trump's illegal order.
     
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    Probably on account of oil, and then too, do you have any idea as to how much land Saudi Arabia owns in the US particularly Arizona? In any event, Trump consistently denigrated Obama as being too soft, so where is his list? So you know of anyone Trump consulted, aside from Steve Bannon, before issuing this unConstitutional order? BTW, have you read the list, or the purpose for it?

    https://www.dhs.gov/news/2016/02/18/dhs-announces-further-travel-restrictions-visa-waiver-program
     
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    Trump doesn't have any investments in Arabia. More to the point KSA is a proven ally and helps the US with intelligence .. They are also fighting al Qaeda and ISIS.
     

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