West Indians? From the Caribbean? I would have traded for some Jerk Chicken and Ginger beer. If it was that bad, then move. It happens all the time here in the US. - - - Updated - - - Then move to Canada where the nearest neighbor is a few days away.
Seemed to me that there were a lot of non-racists there that were virtue signalling. Quite a disturbing read actually. People need to chill the f*** out a bit. The color of your skin is as relevant as the color of your eyes. Act accordingly. You know what really pisses me off? Calls to have people bottle all of this (*)(*)(*)(*) up and suppress it under the media echo chamber. That's what gives you (*)(*)(*)(*) like Trump and Brexit. Do you know in your heart that the person you're talking to isn't a racist? Okay, well then if they make what you perceive to be a racist comment you should address it in a lighthearted, frank manner. Break the ice on a taboo topic, make your position known, and move on. Deal with it. People think all sorts of silly things. Just because someone jokes that the Indian bloke in the shop next to yours smells like curry doesn't mean he's about to walk him into a gas chamber. Everyone chill the f*** out.
If it really annoyed me I would have moved out of the neighborhood too. I find your example to be a failure of the police to enforce the law; not a problem with people of different cultures living in Britain. But personally I myself come from a culture where there is a lot of noise pollution. When I visited the country of my origin I was surprised at how loud people were, the use of the loudspeaker for Mosques was normal, and there is no concept of "not disturbing the neighbors with blasting the volume up". At first it was a cultural shock but gradually I came to appreciate this. I think it's normal for people to be loud and noisy. It would be depressing to live in an environment where people are quiet and there isn't much noise. But to each his own. I don't think your example (partying on the weekend with loud music) is compelling enough to argue against the benefit of multiculturalism. Plus I'm sure a lot of White people have loud parties on a Saturday night too.
So, you're saying if the neighbors were loud soccer hooligans, you'd be okay with that? Is it the noise, or the fact that they're different?
My parents-in-law had lived in that house for all their married life, and had memories, one of which, you might be interested to hear, was many years of caring for one of their two daughters, who was stricken with multiple sclerosis. And you simply write them off as being intolerant of being kept awake all of those nights, then to have to stay awake all day the following day(s) to fulfil their caring responsibilities, and that if they didn't like it then tough - move away, because multiculturalism takes precedence? You really are saying that??
I never suggested your in-laws are intolerant. I know all too well how young people from the Caribbean play loud music and don't have much consideration for others when they do. There are sometimes tensions in Guyana and Trinidad between Blacks and Indians over "steelpan" music. When I lived in Alexandria, VA, we had a similar problem with our Hispanic neighbors. People from that part of the world (Latin America, Caribbean) really like their loud music and partying on weekends. Yet the example you gave is one where you are arguing that people with special needs must be accommodated over and above what people normally do. I already said it is quite ordinary for people of all sorts of cultures to play loud music on the weekends and have noisy parties. Now sometimes those needs are accommodated. For example when peanut butter sandwiches are banned in the lunch room because one kid out of a 100 is allergic to it. But generally speaking that's not the case. If someone is allergic to a perfume or cologne he can't expect people not to wear them in a public bus. He will have to be inconvenienced, that's just the way it is. I don't find that playing loud music on weekends (which is an ordinary activity in society) to be a compelling reason against multiculturalism for this reason.
All I can say is that you have a very superficial idea of what multiple sclerosis is, if you can just dismiss a victim as having 'special needs'. I suspect that if ever you find yourself in my in-law's situation you might become less tolerant of such disruptive and irresponsible anti-social conduct. But I think I've made my point about 'cultures cannot be mixed' without bringing about unwanted repercussions. One day you might have cause to remember it?.
The hoods are an aspect of the need for privacy during reconstruction after the civil war. You can see the same thing with democrats of today who wear masks to protect their identities when they vandalize their own cities.
I was not referring to ms as "Special need", I was referring to your parents-in-laws special need to sleep at night because they have to take care of kids with MS all day.
No, they make up that much of our prison, because they embrace a thug culture. Nothing to do with racism. Everything to do with personal responsibility.
Their lives were literally destroyed by this, but you still believe multiculturalism is more important. You're obviously one of those (usually religious ) individuals who believes 'We're all the same under the skin'? Well we're are, but 'upstairs' we're entirely different.
That "thug culture" has been declining for some time now. Violent crime including homicide has been dropping around America. Meanwhile, black median income is increasing, college education. http://www.nielsen.com/us/en/insigh...creasingly-affluent-educated-and-diverse.html With almost 30% of the black population under the age of 18, this population is not only young and influential but also increasingly educated. High school graduation rates for black students increased to over 70% in 2014, which outpaced the growth for all students in the nation according to the U.S. Department of Educations National Center for Education Statistics. In fact, the college enrollment rates for African-Americans jumped significantly in 2014 to 70.9% from 59.3% the year prior, which exceeded the enrollment rate of non-Hispanic whites (67.3%), according to the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics. That's quite incredible that from 2013-2014, just one year, college enrollment rate of blacks increased from 59.3% to 70.9%.
Err..that's probably the definition of racism, actually. You are correct in that there are (probably) evolutionary mechanisms behind it. I suggest that its not only recognizing patterns of behaviour and associating them to race, but also recognizing the breach in pattern (ie racial difference) and suspecting potential harmful behaviour. In any event, one should be continuously trying to avoid being judgemental of others for any reason.
It's not at all the definition of racism, and no a person should not ignore these patterns, as it's terrible for one's well being. The only thing you should do, is be mindful and act accordingly to these patterns, while keeping in mind not everyone fits the mold. - - - Updated - - - Good, I hope they continue to improve.
Higher level mammals (humans in this case) deal with things that are natural inclinations all the time. Even so, they are capable of observing values, morals and applying disciplines leading to far better outcomes than some visceral or raw expression of 'instinct'. So... no excuses for that disease-like evil, better known as "racism". You are relating your commentary here, but I don't see anything sensible in it. Goodbye.