Pence says US 'strongly supports NATO,' will hold Russia 'accountable' for Ukraine

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  1. litwin

    litwin Well-Known Member

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    its clear that usa knows whats going on in Ukraine , and says it, whats about "payment" will Muscovy pay for its crimes against the independent state Ukraine ? will it be enough to stop Muscovite offense in Ukraine?

    http://abcnews.go.com/International...s-us-strongly-supports-nato/story?id=45577179
     
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    Only idiots are surprised by this news. Informed people knew all along that Trump and his administration had nothing to do with Russia. All those posters who screamed Putin's administration look like bunch of morons now.
     
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    Russia cannot be held ' accountable ' for Ukrainians rejecting the violent coup against their democratically-elected leadership nor for 96% of Crimeans voting by referendum to return to Russian sovereignty.

    ...but Russia-bashing is the norm for the Western military/industrial complex looking for greater power and profits.
     
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    96%...I thought it was like 117%, with dead people voting, and green men with guns?
     
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    Oh well then it must be the pet hamsters and iguana's then.
     
  9. litwin

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    both Rep. and Dem. elites know whats going on and what usa has to do, but agree with you its very , very slowly
    [video=youtube;LOOQskWG5pY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOOQskWG5pY&list=WL&index=13&t=4100s[/video]
     
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    Now what could have caused you to think that ?

    - - - Updated - - -

    And body bags, eh ? Lots and lots of body bags. You delivering ?
     
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    why , not less then today ?
     
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    didn´t trump have 0 political experience? the 1 time in the USA history ...
     
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    Nothing wrong with it.
    Trump may´ve said that NATO was obslete b/c it
    was behind times and didn´t have in place a strategy
    which dealt with todays modern day expression of
    tetrrorism.
    Fact is fact and so it is.
    Trump is absolutely right,not wrong in his assumption
     
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    Actually, I understand the Muscovites don't use body bags anymore, before where they fell the dogs and coyotes ate at them, but there was a trace, now they use portable ovens to cremate, quick, easy and leaves no trace.
     
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    IMO Trump is not well educated or bright.
     
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    sorry pence but I don't believe you, because the orangutan has the final word and he says the opposite of what you do.

    The USA is a mess... everyone expects that everything the white house says is just pure bs. they contradict themselves all the time. Pence gets lied to by others in the white house, and the orangutan himself probably doesn't even know what he thinks before he says it. It's a joke.
     
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    Yeah, say goodby to the big guys. :flagus::salute: They're going home and you're alone now... :hiding:
     
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    Evidently- and so a great many people identified with him, he got their votes and we were saved from Billary. He's been a useful idiot up to now- but his selected advisors must take advice if we are to emerge intact from his tenure.
     
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    I deal with reality, so for me to say that Trump doesn't have exceptional leadership skills would be a denial in reality.

    Trump's leadership skill set is superior to 99% of those in the Democratic Party.

    And as far as the topic goes, Putin went into the Crimea for one reason. The natural gas deposits there and offshore under the Black Sea.
    Putin was quick to throw a pipeline in... But this pipeline can easily be retooled to flow natural gas in the opposite direction.

    https://www.rt.com/business/371937-putin-crimea-gas-russia/
     
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    He is not a czar, USA is a democracy, if he is not a Putin's spy , everything will be good...
     
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    I agree, strangely enough. We don't tend to agree on much, but this is one of those issues.

    This all started with the EU's association agreement and the subsequent pro-EU coup. All reputable Western looking agencies consistently show 80%+ support for annexation in Crimea.

    The referendum was odd in that the talking point was that it was rigged, but nobody proposed a follow up referendum. They didn't want one. I wonder why. Could it be that they knew the will of the Crimean people?

    The media is a (*)(*)(*)(*)ing disgrace.
     
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    Trump was very knowledgeable about politics, and was even asked if he would run in 1980 when he was only 33 years old.

    [video=youtube;0-w47wgdhso]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-w47wgdhso[/video]
     
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    Granny says, "Dat's right - da lot of `em's ridin' the U.S. coat-tails...
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    US Pays 22.1% of NATO Budget; Germany 14.7%; 13 Allies Pay Less Than 1%
    March 20, 2017 – While President Trump’s weekend Twitter assertion that “Germany owes vast sums of money to NATO” is disputed by experts – and by Berlin – it draws attention to the fact that Germany, like the majority of the 28 members of the alliance, has yet to meet a NATO-agreed commitment to devote two percent of GDP to defense spending.
     
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    Sean Spicer? Is that you?
    Ah, one of the times when you can't take what Trump said literally, eh? I wish there was a way to tell when people are supposed to listen to him.

    And Pence is a liar, also. Saying Flynn lied to him - Pence was heading the transition team and he was told about Flynn.
    Our allies must be shaking their heads in disbelief at this corrupt and incompetent regime.
     
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    Trump has compared us to Russia on a moral level and has absolutely refused to condemn Putin for his policies. He speaks and behaves very differently from Pence and every other Republican. I've also noticed that he reacts frequently to any news relating to his potential ties to Russia. He even felt compelled to tweet a(nother) lie about that in particular during the hearing with Comey.

    I think he's getting a little hot and bothered.
     
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