Trinity’s transgender boy wins girls state wrestling crown

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  1. Genius

    Genius Active Member

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    Things like this are becoming the new carnival freak shows. I'm enjoying it.
     
  2. guavaball

    guavaball Well-Known Member

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    No. It is not. It is an excuse for the mentally ill.

    And yet that is exactly what is going on here. The fantasy a biological female can magically change her chromosomes through a male hormone drug.

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    Please. Post your "medical" journals that claim this isn't a psychological condition but a biological one.

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    Now you've done it. You and your anti religion science. How dare you speak science! Burn him!!
     
  3. guavaball

    guavaball Well-Known Member

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    Because she is not a boy but is using a drug to enhance her strength when none of the other girls and boys are allowed to do.

    Because she is not a boy but is using a drug to enhance her strength when none of the other girls and boys are allowed to do.

    Why can't you shorten your rants down to I hate science and everyone should embrace my religion of wishing away my sex because I said so?
     
  4. RP12

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    We are being told "she" is a "he" so why is the new "he" playing on girls team?
     
  5. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    ''Tis being the case, should not this girl (boy) compete in Special Olympics?
     
  6. guavaball

    guavaball Well-Known Member

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    Well said. But of course they have actual proven physical disabilities. These kids are just mentally imbalanced.
     
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    Considering it's basically competing with someone using steroids is this a surprise? People understand this is already illegal in organized competitive sports, but don't let hypocrite liberals acknowledge the obvious in the face of fairness. Hehe. Fair?


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  8. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    l wonder this myself. All the science I know says that a 110lb girl and a 110lb boy can have muscles that will reach to the same strength, if they work out enough. Are muscles of a different composition depending on what sex you are? And yes, I realize that boy and girls have different NATURAL body fat percentages, the percentage any person has is largely dependent on how much they work out, so it still shouldn't make any difference if they both work out the same.

    Neither should steroids for that matter. Steroids only enable you to work out harder, they can make muscles bigger but they won't be any stronger for the same weight.

    I do also understand that if we made wrestling coed we'd have a LOT more people trying out for the teams, :wink: but I don't think anyone is suggesting that.
     
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    Have to say it doesn't appear to be very masculine of her.
     
  10. cd8ed

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    Probably because people like the op don't want these people treated by their biological gender or their transitioning sex. I agree he should be playing on the boys team - and if the progress is far enough he should be *gasp* using the men's room.
     
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    Which is why he should be playing on the men's team, you cannot disqualify someone because of medically necessary medications.

    I actually enjoy scientific theory. You seem to be the one that shuns it whenever it presents something you dislike. I am not wishing away anything, I feel this is an extremely uncomfortable issue but it cannot simply be brushed under the rug like the far left and right loves to do and pretend it isn't there.

    So witch is it, does she get to play on the boys team, the girls team, or should she just be disqualified from every extracurricular activity?
     
  12. cd8ed

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    Silly, we can't have boys wrestling with girls. God would get angry and neocons would quickly run out of safe spaces. :roll:

    Coed weight classes seem like the perfect fix
     
  13. Texan

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    Have a 130 lb boy and a 130 lb girl train for a year and race 100 meters. The boy will still win by over a second. I ran an 11.0 sec 100 meters and I was not fast enough to compete at that distance. The fastest girls run about a 12.7 sec 100 meters. (I'm talking about your average high school track meet.) The men's world. record beats the women's record by about .9 sec.

    Men's weight is distributed differently and they have the ability to gain muscle faster because of hormonal differences. I doubt that men and women of the same weight are the same strength. We share 99% of the same genetics with chimpanzees, but a chimp is much stronger than a human.
     
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    Science disagrees

    No, she is making her exterior match how she feels. We lack the ability to change chromosomes currently. MRI's have shown transgender people often have the same mental processes and neurological elements as someone of the opposite sex,

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    In some it is absolutely a psychological issue but in others:... While I doubt you will review the source material or even attempt to read through impartiality here are a few. The first two link to various journals and talk about results before transitioning occurs, the second two follow the neurological transmission after the transitioning.

    Transsexual differences caught on brain scan
    Is There Something Unique about the Transgender Brain?
    A Structural MRI Study in Transgender Persons on Cross-Sex Hormone Therapy.
    Structural Connectivity Networks of Transgender People
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    If you didn't have sarcasm and condensation your posts would cease to exist. Transgender issues are not anti religion or anti science. Just because you don't agree with it doesn't make it either.
     
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    There you go again with your anti science. Prove it's medically necessary and not a psychological condition. Go ahead.

    Biological sex is not a theory. Your first mistake of many.

    When you have facts and not theory let me know.

    She should play on the girls team without the performance enhancing drugs. Is that so hard to understand?
     
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    So she should just simply stop being transgender. Got it - I expected nothing less. Like with homosexuals, if they would just stop being gay all these uncomfortable issues for the bigots would go away.
     
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    Says who?!?!

    Get rid of all male and female teams and just do co-ed so males can dominate all high school sports and we can hear the next round of (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)es and complaints clamoring for it to go back to the old way.
     
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    This is absurdity at its finest, hope women enjoyed professional sports cause you never going to see it again.
     
  19. guavaball

    guavaball Well-Known Member

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    We are all bigots. The very fact you think you can use it as a weapon shows how little you understand the word. She can continue the fantasy without performance enhancing drugs. The fact you can't be honest about that either speaks volumes l.
     
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    So you would agree in allowing female Olympic Athletes take performance enhancing drugs like testosterone a steroid as long as they claim they are transgender?
    We would have Olympic female teams all be dopers is that where you want female sports to become?
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    How am I trying to use it as a weapon, I was using it as an adjective to describe the virulent anti homosexual lobby, specifically the "me having to see a gay is an assault on my religious freedomz" members.

    Everyone is bigoted to an extent, sexist, racist, heck I'm gay an I can sometimes be a bigger homophobe than my redneck friends. If that word bothers you so much you need to reflect on the reason. You can call me any of the above and I will agree, where we differ is that you believe you should be in control of others lives - I do not.

    I notice you skipped my links after you requested the, guess they didn't say what you wanted.
    Ignore, obstruct, obfuscate, deny. Rinse and repeat. How did that work for y'all on the SSM front?

    Integrity, you should try it sometime
     
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    I have to agree, women want equality of treatment, having segregated teams is blatantly unequal.
    I still like the coed weight classes the best in many sports. If a woman can compete with a man on the field why should anyone try and stop her?
     
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    I would agree with them going to the team of their transition. So no, to answer your question.
    I do not agree that she should have been left on the girls team, I am just simply acknowledging that the most likely reason she is still on the girls team and not the boys team which is the anti-trans groups. She probably would prefer to be on the boys team if she is, you know, a transgender boy...
     
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    so then you would want boys to be on female teams as long as those boys claim they are transgender?
     
  25. ButterBalls

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    I think it goes further than hypocrisy with Libby's the more I read the more I'm convinced that logic never plays in to any discussion, they seem to thirst for argument! It's not about right or wrong, clearly they are comfortable in either roll, its just the of argument for them "The Juice" as some say, getting under peoples skin is the entire game!
     

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