NYT: Illegals, you are on notice. It's going to get very uncomfortable for you!

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/25/...nytcore-iphone&smid=nytcore-iphone-share&_r=0

Finally something positive in the New York Times!?!?! How refreshing it is to hear law enforcement officers and field agents being told they can now go out and do their jobs. Now we just need to let our local cops cooperate and do away with these ridiculous sanctuary cities. I did not vote for Trump, and I think he is mostly a buffoon. But this I can support 100%.

From the article...

“Which part of illegal don’t people understand?” an agent in Arizona asked.

On Thursday, Los Angeles, a sanctuary city, asked that ICE agents stop calling themselves police officers, saying it was damaging residents’ trust of the city’s own police officers. Ha! Screw you Garcetti! (my Mayor).

“Before, we used to be told, ‘You can’t arrest those people,’ and we’d be disciplined for being insubordinate if we did,” said a 10-year veteran of the agency who took part in the operation. “Now those people are priorities again. And there are a lot of them here.”
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What vindication for officers Ramos and Campeon. Remember them? They were the two border patrol agents who spent five years in federal prison after shooting an illegal alien drug dealer in the butt... who had 800 pounds of marijuana in his van.

This may provide some minor comfort to the Steinle family whose daughter was taken from them by a five-time deportee and multiple felon illegal alien who was free to walk the streets of a sanctuary city because city leadership believed it was more important to make a political statement than to protect its residents.

This is a victory for the American people; a victory for our legal immigrants who have stood in line and patiently complied with our laws; and a victory for the rule of law.

Seems a new day is upon us brothers and sisters. Savor it.

 

Again, positive new in the NEW. YORK. TIMES.

 

Here in Central Texas, we have MANY MANY MANY people of Mexican descent...obviously.

I work with many of them and have many more as personal friends. They are good people who work hard and have strong family values.

Every single one of them - and I mean EVERY SINGLE ONE - are strongly in favor of removing illegal aliens from this country. I don't mean just the felons/criminals - I mean ALL OF THEM!

They came here LEGALLY - and they are highly offended by our past administrations' (all of them!) failure to get a handle on the immigration mess before it got so out-of-hand.

The people perpetrating all the outrage over President Trump's immigration plan are simply charlatans who care nothing for the actual people they claim to support.

They want to create that path to citizenship to garner their ultimate votes - plain and simple.

Deny it all you want, libs -- it's the truth!

We're not buying it anymore. Stop trying to sell it!

 

Absolutely. I also have a number of Hispanic friends here in Los Angeles. Almost to a man, they have the same opinions. At least in this one area of American life it seems some measure of sanity and rationalism is returning. Not a moment too soon in my view.

 

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What about the illegal immigrants coming from Europe?
are they also being ICE'd.

 

Keepin his promises one at a time!



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ICE isn't a discriminatory organization!

They're equal opportunity deporters.

 

Every intelligent, educated Hispanics and Latinos I know and work with want illegals GONE!!! Its amazing how drastic a difference there is when you deal with the lower income, less educated Hispanics who have illegal family members. Totally different mind set.

 

They certainly should be.

 

Yip, they should be, perhaps currently they still concentrating their efforts towards Latinos and Mexicans.

 

Well, they happen to be in closest proximity so they tend to make up the majority of illegal aliens. But if someone is here illegally from Sweden, they need to go as well... This is just plain old common sense!

 

This is simply the wrong way to go about handling the illegal immigration process,. Breaking up families and dreamers isn't progress. Here IS what would create progress, no deportation necessary. Create a process for illegal aliens to become legal. The amount of resources we spend on ICE and their deportation operatives could be used on much better and productive ways to combat illegal immigration.

Deportation is not a victory for the American People.
Deportation is not a victory for legal immigrants.
Deportation is a victory for those who think they own this country, when its really the Native Americans land, not ours.

Furthermore, why don't we just simplify the immigration process to become a US citizen? Reduce more than half the time and resources, and put Sanctuary Cities to a productive and legal use? Then, illegals will have less incentive to come here illegally. It's not that hard to figure out people. How stupid ARE conservatives, really? That's not a democrat asking that question, that's common sense asking the question.

 

Thankfully, people like you don't speak for the "American people" like you claim to, or for "common sense" like you claim to.

Your "solution" to the illegal alien problem is to turn illegals into legals. No thanks. Ship them back, let them leech off the benefits of another country.

 

I'm no less American than you are. Deportation is simply a Band-Aid on a larger problem, not to mention its a clear violation of human rights. Why doesn't Trump just come out, and announce everyone who had ancestors from Europe will be deported? How about that? Every white European gets their ass kicked out of the country.

The ugly and heartless really have taken over this country. Thanks for defacing what it means to be American.

 

All this is just your own personal opinion. Also you seem to be very partial towards the illegals. We need people who are more impartial to make policies.

Also, your suggestion that we "solve" the illegal problem by granting them citizenship is like trying to reduce violent crime by declaring murder not a crime. This is dumb and does not address the underlying problems.

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Meting out justice to those who have committed a crime (as in, having entered US illegally) is not "violating" their human rights.

 

It's not a "human right" to illegally enter a country and reside there. Ask Mexico.

Your thinking destroyed what it means to be an American a long time ago. That's why we have illegal immigration in the first place. If you want to be generous and altruistic, donate your own time, money, and property to take care of your illegal alien friends. Stop leeching off the tax payer to pay for your little social projects.

 

And how about that tax burden we're all going to face with Trump's border wall? That's not going to curb illegal immigration much at all. And it'll cost a LOT more.

 

Yes, we need people to be impartial toward simplifying naturalization, rewrite and make Sanctuary Cities legal, and make accommodations wherever necessary. The more you think about it, the more ICE in itself is wasteful spending. So they've entered the US illegally, omg the world is going to end. The vast majority of these people are not murderers nor rapists, and a good chunk of the people being deported don't have a single skeleton to hide.

 

No it's not. Illegals cost California alone about 10 billion per year.

 

Imagine how much that figure could be reduced by actually simplifying the naturalization process, and making it easier to become a US Citizen. Then not only would illegals not be illegals, California would see a lot more revenue. Maybe I'm just thinking in the long term, not the short term.

 

We don't enforce laws based on whether there is any serious consequence if we didn't. We should enforce them purely on the basis that those who broke laws, should be apprehended and punished. Do you agree that we should uphold the Rule of the Law, or should we administer laws only when it suits our whim?

If anybody entered the country illegally, then technically they have broken the laws and they are therefore criminals. Additional crimes just make it worse.

 

How is it going to reduce costs? Giving them legal status will only increase their welfare usage (since they would become fully eligible), and it would encourage a lot more impoverished 3rd world immigrants to come here.

 

There's a much easier way to curb illegal immigration. Stop giving the criminals benefits. Also, hammer down on employers who hire them. Cut off all the incentives for those bloodsuckers to be here.

Lol why should we give welfare to someone who can't prove they are a citizen, or even a GC alien? That's nuts!

 

They are going after criminals. They will probably find more illegal Hispanics who are criminals, than Europeans. As far as I know, we have no british, or Nordic gangs here, nor is Europe a supplier of illegal drugs, so no European drug cartels here to go after. I would imagine illegal Europeans over stayed their visas. Harder to walk across the Atlantic than our southern border.

That we finally have a president that is doing his job is refreshing, and hopeful as he is allowing ICE to do their jobs. Of course we lost loads of illegals when our housing bubble popped, for some of our construction companies really liked paying them less wages, for this left more in profits for themselves. Make no mistake about it, some of our crooked businessmen demanded the illegal labor and got it, and these banana republic democrats saw some more people to use for votes, by giving them welfare, on my and your dime.

No doubt about it. Trump, even as the faux liberals call him a criminal, is the least corrupt president we have had since carter. I think the democrats in DC are getting a bit nervous. Trump will not turn a blind eye to their corruption, unlike your run of the mill establishment GOPher, who is paid by the same elites as the dems are. DC runs on legal bribery on one hand, and extortion on the other, using the tax codes.

 

To the contrary, it is exactly the right way to handle it. Like every other nation on earth, we have laws. People who break our laws have to accept the consequences of doing so. We are far more generous in that regard than most.

Those families bear the sole responsibility for that as they knowingly and willfully violated the laws of a sovereign nation. They knew what they were doing was wrong and as such assumed all risks.

Why should we reward people for breaking the law? And how is that fair to people like my friend Lucia - a Mexican national and Green Card holder who has been patiently waiting for years to take her citizenship test?

They should be paid for by the fines that are supposed to be levied on employers who knowingly hire illegals. But regardless of the funding, the rule of law and law enforcement are both necessary elements of a civilized society.

You are simply wrong.

Of course it is. These people followed the rules. To see those who don't follow the rules not punished and worse yet - rewarded as your preposterous idea suggests - is a slap in the face to those who have demonstrated respect for the law. Those are exactly the kind of people we want to welcome into our country, by the way. Why do you want to welcome those who have shown they have no respect for our laws?

OK, you just lost the argument.

Now that's the first intelligent comment you've made.

It should be much easier to apply for citizenship, I agree. However, if you've already been deported - meaning you've already demonstrated your lack of respect for our laws - then you are out, and you've blown your chance to ever legally reside or even visit here.

I think what you are seeing right now with regard to law enforcement actually doing its job is a fantastic disincentive. Now we just need to go after the employers.

Now your petty little name-calling truly betrays the weakness of your ridiculous argument.

I don't care what cartoon animal you worship, you either believe in the rule of law or you don't. And if you don't, you are simply on the wrong side of this issue.

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He wants to reward people for breaking the law. What a ridiculous position to take! Well, in fairness, he seems to worship the party of Eric Garcetti who told us we should thank felons for serving their prison sentences.