Simple Solution to the "Bathroom Debate"

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  1. OldManOnFire

    OldManOnFire Well-Known Member

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    Read the article I posted that estimated 150,000 kids...
     
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    Oh stop, I never said it wasn't more than bathrooms what I DID say is the Bogey man you fear isn't there. The facts don't back your argument.
     
  3. Bluesguy

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    I think they have been "sexualized" for almost all of time and even under Democrats. You know Mens and Womens. And it worked just fine.
     
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    150,000%?

    I ask what PERCENTAGE of elementary school kids are dressing like the opposite sex and pretending to be that opposite sex?
     
  5. Bluesguy

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    Why do you believe that is a "simple solution"? Do you have any idea the additional building and maintenance cost? Why do you think other public buildings have group bathrooms especially the bigger it gets. I can't imagine a NFL stadium or Talladega International having only separate bathrooms.
     
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    I have a more simple and much cheaper solution: if you have a penis - you go to the boy's room; if you have a vagina - you go to the girl's room...PERIOD! (No pun intended.)

    There's no in-between grey area crap....no "sex you identify with" -- it all comes down to the equipment you have (by birth or by surgery).

    This whole "gender identity" thing is nothing more than liberal social engineering.

    Has "transgendered" just recently become the "cause celebre" out of altruistic motives on the part of liberals?

    Has it just now become an issue that didn't exist before?

    No. It's just another reason to get people stirred-up for political reasons and to create division.

    How did this world manage to exist before liberals started taking these causes under their wing?

    It's getting really B - O - R - I - N - G!!!
     
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    I'm pretty sure the trans gendered issue started with the courts.

    As far as the "how the world survived before" argument - by that line of thinking, we should all be worshipping the Greek or Roman gods that existed before Christianity was even a concept. Better yet, paganism. From which Christianity borrowed so much. The world survived when cavemen were living without fire or the wheel. It's too bad they developed. Things were so much simpler then.

    The whole sexual identity topic is a very strange one, for sure. It is not a debate about practicality (eg. cost or inconvenience of changing buildings). It's also not a debate about safety, mental health, religion or many other things that it stirs up. It's about liberties and individuals feeling oppressed (personally I feel it's a bit of a stretch). The number or percentage of individuals is not important 150,000 or 1 or 49% or 51%. Ultimately it should be in the hands of the courts. Not political debate or executive order.
     
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    I totally agree with you about executive orders needing to be reigned in. We don't want the presidency to become a king's thrown. I don't agree that the power is being granted or taken by the left. Both parties are taking way too much liberty with e.o.'s. It seems to be a response to a broken system where Congress can't pass anything because it's so divided, corrupt, and worried about re-election.

    This is off topic and would make a great separate thread. Though I'm sure it's been hashed over before.
     
  9. truth and justice

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    The womens restrooms in a NFL stadium and the Talladega International have separate cubicles

    - - - Updated - - -

    Some people are born with a vagina and a penis
     
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    Only a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of a percent have both, which is hardly a compelling argument for anything.

    That's like trying to justify all abortions off the less than 1 percent of rape victims receiving them.

    If you wish to take the leftist stance and think bathroom usage should be an individual choice fine, but using these kinds of justifications is non sensical
     
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    Except by admitting it is indeed more than the innocently and dishonestly pitched bathrooms, and that it is everything and anything...you validate that "bogey man" for me. Those are the facts, and you just confirmed them for me.

    Anything else?
     
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    Any idea of what percentage of people like that are in this debate?

    It is appx. .03 to .05 of the general population.

    Only a dyed-in-the-wool liberal lunatic would advocate societal changes to accommodate a percentage that low of people born with such a deformity.

    Autism and severe retardation are far more common - but we don't force all of society to change and enact sweeping modifications to our infrastructure to accommodate that segment -- why should we for those afflicted with gender ambiguity defects?

    This whole issue is a manufactured problem with political motives...PERIOD!
     
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    The topic is schools not the NFL stadiums or any public restroom, shower or locker room, or as some like to point out - what they do in foreign countries. Schools................... schools in this country. You have to change the topic or lose your narrative.
     
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    Glad you admit that your statement "There's no in-between grey area " is wrong
     
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    Be kinda spendy don't ya think?
     
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    Always remember, with the left it's never about what they say it's about. The truth is always behind the curtain.
     
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    Immigrants commit fewer crimes per capita than citizens. This means that every immigrant that comes here reduces the average crime rate.

    Using the bathroom is very practical/

    I love how you just make up statistics to suit your needs.

    Show me that you didn't fabricate this from thin air.

    Given your math skills, rare could mean anything. And that sentence doesn't even make sense.

    Civil rights are not a local issue but those who wish to deny other's rights sure wish they were.

    No they didn't. That is just another one of your made up facts in the true Trumpian style.

    No it wouldn't. Show me the math that you just made up in true Trumpian style.
     
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    If you're interested in percentages you'll need to do your own research...I provided data stating 150,000 kids in school are transgender.

    If those 150,000 use the 'facilities' 5 times each day, this is 750,000 events per day, five days per week, 35 weeks per year, which is approximately 131 MILLION events per year. While you are searching for small percentage numbers to justify your position those kids must face this issue 131 MILLION times each year! How many are ridiculed, harassed, bullied, beat, murdered? And even if there is no retribution what must be going through these kids heads worrying about what 'might' happen?

    If you bother to notice I've not once talked about the solution to this issue and this is because I don't know what it should be. But there is no denying that with 131 MILLION events each year this IS NOT an issue that can be ignored...
     
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    Seperate stalls in the womens but troughs in mens room for peeing but that is not what was suggested. Total individual restrooms.
     
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    Clearly separate stalls have been accepted as the solution by those who have asked for the change
     
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    And if we start counting how many times the normal people in this nation go to washrooms we will get a billion (if not trillion) events. So what is your point exactly?
     
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    Just like white and colored fountains worked fine, right? You're on the wrong side of history on this one and I think you know it. You'll get a few victories from the neaderthal in the white house as far as legal protections go, but time is not on your side. The generation coming up has less and less in common with the regressive social nonsense of the baby boomer generation currently in charge.
     
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    I actually believe that people should have the right to determine who they want as friends, neighbors, employees, mates...etc. Forced integration is just as bad as forced segregation. I say do away with both and let people figure out how they want to live their lives.
     
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    That isbwhat was asked and the pertinent number here. What perecent of elementary school kids go to school dressed as the opposite sex and pretend to be the opposite sex.

    More than 1% or less than 1%?
     
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    Hermaphrodites were born into that "grey area". That's not what we're discussing here.

    This topic is about creating special restrooms because a segment of our population that has a mental defect is being used as political pawns by the radical left to further their agenda and manufacture problems that play to their narrative.

    That's all it is.
     

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