House Speaker Paul Ryan on Trump camp's alleged Russia ties: 'We need to get answers'

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  1. Think for myself

    Think for myself Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well, there seems to be some split in the congressional GOP.

    Whilst on one hand you have Nunes claiming he never heard anyone say that there was a campaign ties, on the other hand you have the speaker of the house saying yeah, we really need to figure it out.

    Paul Ryan seemingly has come out in favor of pushing forward with looking into the Trump campaign's possible ties to foreign governments.

    Should make for interesting relationships between the speaker and the administration.

    A political witch hunt? Maybe, but now looking like a bipartisan politcal witch hunt.

    http://www.today.com/news/house-speaker-paul-ryan-trump-camp-s-alleged-russia-ties-t108661


    We need to get answers. We need to make sure that nothing happened that shouldn’t have happened as we go forward,” Ryan told TODAY's Matt Lauer in an exclusive interview, ahead of President Donald Trump’s address to a joint session of Congress on Tuesday night.

    Ryan didn’t directly say whether a special prosecutor should investigate the alleged ties between the Russian government and members of Trump’s team, and whether the White House had tried to influence reporting about any communications.

    Ryan said one of his main concerns is ensuring that the collection of intelligence data is not compromised, and a bipartisan investigation is necessary.

    “It’s the most sensitive tool in our national security toolbox,” Ryan said.
     
  2. PrincipleInvestment

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    These days a lot of (D) House / Senate members are finding they have a lot of free time. As they appear happiest when pursuing their pipe dream, impeachment proceedings, I say, why not indulge them? (D) John Lewis hasn't yet decided whether he'll attend tonights joint session meeting. Lewis orchestrated the inaugural boycott, and seems content in collecting his congressional salary while not actually performing his congressional duties. IMO, it's preferable to sit ins, filibuster, and obstructionism. So by all means, instead, spend the next 4 yrs. investigating Russia ... :wink:
     
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    Think for myself Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Interesting.

    Paul Ryan is a Republican. Whilst I understand the need to deflect from the patent and total failure that is Trump, Ryan is also speaker of the house, one of the most powerful people in Congress.

    And a Republican.
     
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    You missed where I said "indulge" them? Ryan is aware the investigations are pointless, and futile. Without GOP recommendation, no investigation can proceed. Ryan is simply placating fools.
     
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    Think for myself Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I find it so deliciously amusing that in defense of Trump, your post insists on deflecting to Democrats. Isn't that really just a convenient excuse to ignore the reality that is the failure, to date, of the Trump president, along purely partisan lines and without any basis? To be less wordy, isn't that just made up partisan nonsense?
     
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    Don't expect Paul Ryan to do anything unless it helps Paul Ryan. He's probably just reacting to the public outrage that Trump's ties to Russia are so deep that they just aren't going to disappear on their own accord. However, I'm pretty sure that he is all smoke and no fire. There is no way the GOP is going to do anything to address the potential compromising of the Trump Admin. So look for some cynical ploy as Ryan waves his hands for a while and then POOF! they try to make the issue disappear. Here's hoping that the media and the public keep the GOPers' feet to the fire and makes them pay for their effective dismissal of this potentially critical issue. The party in charge of the White House tends to lose seats in Congress - sometimes a lot of seats - during midterm elections and I'm sure the GOP, self-serving Ryan included, aren't taking this lightly since the Republicans lost seats in both houses of Congress and got absolutely Trumped in the general election's popular vote.
     
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    Where did I mention Trump? How do you construe my comments regarding Ryan as a "defense"? Let the investigation begin, and the chips fall where they may. Transparency though costly will at least require (D) congressmen to show up for work ... albeit, "busy work". (D) are merely posturing themselves for 2018. Frankly they've nothing else.
     
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    You didn't, which is odd when one considers the thread topic concerns him.
     
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    Oh! It's a Trump bashing thread! I'm sorry you've disguised it so masterffully I completely missed it. :wink: I thought you were merely highlighting some perception of divisions within the GOP. Ryan seems amiable to bipartisan cooperation in resolving this issue that's proven so distracting. Seems unlikely you'll score political points bashing him either ... :roflol:
     
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    By all means, please investigate to your hearts content.

    Get all the dems in a room with their diaper pins, pajamas and relaxation doh and let them call the FBI, check the wiretaps, dive back in to the Flynn tapes and do whatever else you want to do.

    Subpoena Putin, do whatever you want.

    We really don't care.
     
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    As opposed to deflecting from Trump onto democrats for things completely fabricated?
     
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    Yeah at least it's a way to get the Dems to do their jobs.
     
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    I am not a democrat, nor did I advocate an investigation. Your post seems sadly misguided on those two points.
     
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    Yeah I know you voted for Trump. Good job.

    What is the point of the thread?

    Ryan is just tired of the bellyaching like the rest of us.

    Just do the investigation and stop bothering everyone else with conspiracy theories.
     
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    You don't concede that the calls for congressional investigations are at the behest of (D) lawmakers? Ryan, and the GOP seem to have every confidence in the FBI's abilities, but (D) are searching for political capital.
     
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    No, I don't concede it is due to some bizarre conspiracy theory you outlined in your post.
     
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    Speaking of bizarre, the notion that democrats wanting to drag this issue out for as long as possible to gain political capital is somehow a "conspiracy theory" is very very odd indeed. It is willfully childish, actually, and ignores the political wars this nation has been obsessed by for decades!
     
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    Sort of how all the Benghazi investigations vanished when trump won lol
    Don't you think foreign meddling in our elections warrants as many investigations as Benghazi?
     
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    Trump obviously isn't going to waste any of his political capitol dredging up stonewalled issues from years back. That's just a political fact of life that I find unfortunate because things like Benghazi and
    the Clinton email scandals are just begging for prosecution now that the left won't be able to block them anymore.


    This has been a democrat issue for months now without one single shred of evidence to support it but since when has evidence been a factor when the left demands an investigation?

    I would still like to know why zero military aid was sent to Benghazi as our people were under fire and why the Obama regime insisted the attack on our facility was due to an anti Muslim video when they knew from the start this was a lie.
     
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    Ryan is panicked that he will actually have to deliver real results or get called out by Trump on the national stage. On a per month basis, Ryan has run up more national debt than even Pelosi!

    Ryan would have been quite happy with Jeb! Trump isn't Jeb!
     
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    If Trump has nothing hide he would produce his tax returns. It's a simple as that.
     
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    I hope trump never ever releases his tax returns . Well , maybe 8 years from today.
     
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    I'm sure that his family and cronies hope the same. As for 8 years...:roflol:
     
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