AG Sessions spoke with Russian officials

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  1. Ronstar

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    Look, I am not positive. And none of the Democrats are either.

    First why did Franken ask him that question? Does Franken meet with Russians? Maybe Franken thought he set Sessions up.

    I am so far the only one to question Franken's motives.

    Two scenarios

    1. Sessions meets Russians and discusses normal business as always
    2. Sessions meets Russians and wants favors acting for Trump or tells them that if Trump wins, he will hand them favors

    1 is fine
    2 is not

    Democrats achieved madness on Nov 8, 2016 when they lost their butts. They still are angry. I heard Debbie Schulz moaning over what Conway said yesterday and she is pathetic in her whining. CNN is trying to make things up.

    Conway never said poor hurt feelings Debbie did not stand up, she said she hoped that is not true. Wasserman had a damned fit.

    This is how Democrats swing their bats today.

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    Here is CNN frothing foam out of their mouths over the Sessions issue. Some democrat called this the event that will finally bring Sessions down.

    I don't get the rage against Sessions. I honestly can't understand why his then fellow senators hate Sessions so much. Clearly this is some plan of the Democrats. They ought to be ashamed they so hate a fellow former senator they want him hung out to dry.

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    A false left wing narrative is not reality.
     
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    A large numbr of Republican legislators are disturbed by this as well ya know

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    Franken asked "in the couse of this campaign", specifically.

    Session's duties as senator do not fall under the realm of, "In the course of this campaign."
     
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    What question and what answer, specifically?
     
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    Sessions just announced he will recuse himself from all present and future investigations into Russia connections with Trump and his campaign.
     
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    He is tired of being the subject of fake news stories.
     
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    Obama was President. He talked with Russians because of diplomacy. Trump is too obedient to Putin. Dems loathe the Russians because Putin is a killer. And Trump may have multiple illicit connections to Russia, according to an intelligence dossier. Even if that's a sham, Tillerson, Flynn, and Sessions all had contact with Putin before being apart of the Executive Branch. Flynn and Sessions reportedly discussed lifting sanctions, which could give Putin more of a foothold against sovereign nations such as Ukraine. If Democrats had illicit connections like this, Republicans would be up in arms, and for good reason. There is a ton of evidence, and it bothers me how partisans are so willing to dismiss it. That's not to say that Democrats aren't just as stupid, but in this case, it's the Trump supporters that are doing it. Right now, this isn't about policy, or liberal crybabies, or racist conservatives, or whatever. This is about freedom, national security, and preserving American prosperity and hegemony.

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    Same could be said about Hillary. If he is investigated, and is innocent, he'll prove the media wrong. It would be the logical thing to do, if he were innocent.
     
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    You are using the argumentative fallacy of Guilt by Association. Talking with Putin is evidence of nothing
     
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    Yes that certainly must be the case - I can't imagine a peaceful resolution of the issue otherwise: the Dems would never accept the investigation's findings and this issue goes to the very validity of the presidential election.

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    Well there you go
     
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    And again, there's nothing false or misleading about Sessions's statements. As far as we know, he was unaware of Flynn's actions or anyone else's. He was briefly a part of the campaign and in that time, he had no communications with the Russians. This is literally word for word what he said(and you quoted) in Senate Testimony and he reiterated his statements in a press release.

    This is dishonor from the Democrats, incredibly low skunk attacks by correlating Sessions's legal behavior as a member of the armed services community with that of Flynn's actions. And this dishonor is unbecoming, which begs the question: Why are you and other Americans defending the actions of tarnishing people's reputations?

    You are supposedly "stronger together", but we evidence facts(behavior) to the contrary. If you want to defeat Trump, show you're better. Because right now, Trump looks like the better human being. And that's not a high bar.
     
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    You just did what we would call a 'Hasty Generalization'. You assume that I was talking about him talking with Putin. I perhaps did not explain enough. Tump critizises people within his own nation, such as Obama and Hillary, and calls them enemies of America, and such. Which is fine. But when he consistently defends Putin and being friends with Putin, then there is a problem. He is willing to denounce political rivals, and even war heroes such as John McCain, but not a foreign semi-enemy such as Putin. Now, I expect that you will cite diplomacy as a reason for Trump's defense of Putin, but he insults leaders from Germany, France, and Mexico every other day of the week, so it would be contradictory for him to hesitate to say anything negative about Putin.
     
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    No, the issue is whether he mislead the Senate, regardless of what was discussed.
     
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    oh I remember when even the faintest hint that the president was cozy with russia would upset the right wing sooo much. Remember that polish missile defense, remember how he'd be more flexible after the election, remember telling russia british nuclear secrets. Do you remember their reactions? "traitor". "weak"... just IMAGINE how they'd have reacted if he'd have two people in his cabinet with ties to russia. It would be a revolution.

    That's why we see such strong condemnation from the right today. except no, we don't, because they're hypocrites, without any principles. Russia is suddenly cool you see. Maybe it has something to do with that the president is no longer a democrat, but a republican. It certainly has nothing at all to do with america, or patriotism. Of course, one wonders, what did the democrats say when obama flirted with the russians? Nothing.

    USA is a joke. Both parties are a joke. Filled with partisans who don't hesitate to sell out their country if it hurts the other party. Russia humiliated you under Obama, and they're continuing, more now than ever. Trump has a long way to go to make america great again... Thus far everyone's just laughing at you. the president has clearly no idea what he's doing... He can't control his own white house, leaks everywhere. intelligence agencies withhold information from him.. President says on thing VP says another... pathetic
     
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    Gotta agree. Say what you want about Pence, but he's at least competent and desicive. Trump is broken all the way through.
     
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    I can't see how any reasonable person would take what he said to mean anything other than that he had no contact with any rep or purported rep of the Russian government during the course of the Trump campaign. It was a misleading statement, clearly evidenced by everyone being shocked by the contrary truth.

    However, I do not personally believe that he deliberately or wilfully mislead. The context of the disclosure indicates to me that he was talking in a narrow frame of mind specifically looking at his own participation in the campaign and conversation with Russians in that capacity.

    nonetheless, it was a hugely sensitive issue and he was talking to the Senate on point, in respect to his own confirmation as Attorney General.

    He is not a criminal, but we are not supposed to have morons in that position either.
     
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    It may be the issue for the Marxist Democrats but the fact is that Sessions answered the question that was asked. He was under no obligation to do Franken's job for him.
     
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    "In the course of" stated this way means during that specified time period, i.e. communications prior to the Trump campaign would not be relevant. So that doesn't help him.
     
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    Well, he said he couldn't answer the question that was asked, and everyone seemed to accept that.

    But as part of the rationale for that answer, he also volunteered that he himself had had no contact with the Russians, and this was misleading.
     
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