80 percent of Canadians back Israel boycott

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  1. moon

    moon Well-Known Member

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    It seems that the issue of supporting Israeli criminality didn't have a high profile in the Canadian general elections- otherwise Canada would have a very different government.

    Next time there's a national election- anywhere in the West- we should ensure that ending support for neoZionism is at the top of the candidates' manifestos.
     
  2. wgabrie

    wgabrie Well-Known Member Donor

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    Canada doesn't know what it's doing.

    Israel has a right to all the Palestinian land. Might makes right and the Palestinians need to become a footnote of history.
     
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    As a Canadian, I also happen to believe in the exercise of soft power, in this case the application of sanctions, etc.


    I also happen to believe that calls for boycotts against Israel are not in and of themselves anti-semitic.

    While I support Israel and its absolute right to exist and thrive, I do not support its settlement program and the continued annexation of the west bank. I do not support the continued military occupation, but until such time that Israel's security can be guaranteed and a minimal level of trust established, it is ridiculous to suggest Israel simply retreats to the green line.

    As to knowing what we are doing. Sometimes yes, sometimes no, but more often than not manage to get things right. Kinda like 'Murka.
     
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    Maybe it is Canadian(s) that are calling the US and making threats against Jewish groups that support Israel. It is worth investigation.
     
  5. DennisTate

    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Here is a part of the formula that I personally find rather moving emotionally......

    http://www.politicalforum.com/relig...bered-400-000-did-majority-convert-islam.html


    First century church may have numbered 400,000... did the majority convert to Islam?

    I guess it was about two years ago that I ran into evidence that the Palestinian people are largely the descendants of the second century Messianic Jewish community....... who DID NOT join in the Bar Kochba revolt against Rome..... and thus were allowed to stay in the Roman province of Judaea after the revolt was crushed.

    I have noticed that this information has altered the way that I view the Israeli - Palestinian conflict ..... has affected the way that I pray about this situation...… and has been a subject that I have gone over and over again in my mind.





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    Mr. Tsvi Misinai is the leading proponent of important evidence for this theory:

    Tsvi Misinai - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsvi_Misinai


     
  6. wgabrie

    wgabrie Well-Known Member Donor

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    Dennis, I'm under the impression that the Palestinians are the descendants of Arab invaders who haven't been there more than 100 years or so.
     
  7. DennisTate

    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    An important part of The Engagement Movement is evidence from genetics.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsvi_Misinai

    Proportion of Hebrew-descended Palestinians[edit]





    A thinly disguised star of David on a doortop in Yatta, southern Mount Hebron


    I have nominated a man for consideration for the role of National Leader of the Democratic Party who has written a fascinating booklet on how peace could perhaps be attained between Israelis and Palestinians.


    http://www.politicalforum.com/elect...tions-potential-leaders-democratic-party.html

    Nominations for potential leaders for the Democratic Party.


    I have a man in mind who, if chosen by the Democrats, would give the party a very different flavour than has been attempted by Secretary Hillary Clinton.

    He is a writer who has been shown a plan for peace in the Middle East that in my opinion, was well worth reading and re-reading four times already.


    http://godspeaceplan.blogspot.ca/2014/07/gods-peace-plan-for-holy-land-peace.html


     
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    Dennis, modern day Israel has nothing to do with historic genetics. It's an invention of the 20th century to house the Jews both genetic and religiously. The Palestinians are traitors to their people and converted to Islam over the centuries and so they don't have any say. In fact since Israel IS a modern invention, and Palestinians haven't been serious about tending to THEIR modern state their time has just about past. And thank goodness for that.

    One state solution it is!
     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Frankly..... at this time in my life I can't see anything else working other than
    a One State solution but.......
    ISIS has the government of Jordan scared......(for good reason).... so:


    http://www.politicalforum.com/middl...u-plan-canada-jordan-israeli-cooperation.html

    P. M. Justin Trudeau and a plan for Canada, Jordan - Israeli cooperation on....



    an alternative method to stabilize the climate.
     
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    Interesting. When it comes to their health, no one seems to boycott any of the advances in medicine from Israel. Not even Arabs!

    What if there was a group that wanted to boycott Palestinian products and services; what would we have to live without?
     
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    The America's are all annexed land would you pack up and leave if native American's wanted you to leave? I'm not defending Israel in anyway because I am firmly against the illegal settlements. But I assure you the Natives want us gone. We settled their land the same way Israel is doing in Palestine. Given it wasn't you and I personally but we live on stolen land none the less.
     
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    wouldnt know, not allowed into canada. Too frenchy anyways
     
  13. moon

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    There's a moral case for that- and native peoples should be recognized as such all over the world- but the era of taking territory by force of arms and settlement pre-dates modern international law. It's illegal now and all civilisations have signed up- via the United Nations- to condemn and outlaw it.
    That's why Israel is so dangerous. Zionism threatens to undermine the established rule of law for everybody.
    Even supporting Zionism from a distance lays the supporter open to a charge of rank hypocrisy- and that is very damaging to the US on the world stage. When your public political face is sweet but your breath stinks- you don't have any close friends- just sycophants .
     
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    Interesting. the days of imperialism and colonialism as active political/economic ideologies died early in the 20th century.

    A crime of the past does not justify a crime of the present. Fact is expansion of a nation's territory by warfare is a war crime in this era.
     
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    What I want to know is how a piece of land on the other side of the earth can be so important for a country like Canada, or for Sweden. Why should we care either way? I don't care about the muslims, I don't care about the jews... Atleast not enough to bother to boycott any of them. For christ sake we're trading with china aren't we, and with saudi arabia, and lots of other countries that are much worse in every regard than Israel. Enough of this... I don't want muslims and jews dragging everyone else into their stupid tribal feud. muslims and jews living in the west.. if they care so much about what goes on in the middle east... they should move to there, and stop bothering westerners with their stone age feud.

    it's ridiculous... Israel this and israel that... "ooh it's apartheid over there" or "if you don't support israel you're an anti-semite".. it's a tiny country of 8 million. WHY do people care so much about it??? It's not as if the rest of the world is respecting human rights perfectly... it's not as if they're not other oppressed groups than the palestinians. Yet I don't hear nearly as much about that. The USA is in Israel's pocket, it's obvious and it's pathetic. But similarily, the EU is captive to it's anti-israeli muslim minorities...

    Of course, were you ever to question why jews who call themselves swedes seem to care more about israel than sweden, or why muslims who call themselves swedes care more about muslim countries than sweden... Then you'd be called a racist of course. these people, who came as refugees, welcomed here, essentially infiltrate our state and intend to use it to pursue a foreign agenda. I can't think of anything more disrespectful. There is only room for one flag. If you wont fly the swedish flag, go back to your country. If any of you remember the swedish-israeli diplomatic incident some time back.. What did that have to do with swedish national interest? nothing at all, but we were pursing palestinian interests. Same goes with the USA with regards to israel... sad, sad, sad, we're all hostage to annoying minorities...
     
  16. moon

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    Justice, the rule of law.......and preventative medicine. A large territory such as Canada does not experience the same fears for its future as small states worldwide which absolutely depend upon international law and the protection of the United Nations for their respective futures.
    You don't have to bother about which ' side ' you ' support '- but you surely must care about justice. Just support international law and let the law do its job.

    You wouldn't ignore a diagnosis of disease- don't close your mind to neoZionist fascism.
     
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    So easy for armchair anti-Semites to decry Israel just trying to protect itself when they are thousands of miles away from land that is surrounded by hostile populations that would love to wipe it off a map. Where will they be if Israel gives the crybaby Palestinians what they want and finds themselves under a military assault from their Arab neighbors?
     
  18. moon

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    Armchair Zionists aren't burying their children and watching their houses being demolished by a brutal regime which assassinates and steals while being supported from afar by frightened Islamophobes who swallow the Zionist rhetoric whole.
     
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    Indeed.

    Just how much land belongs to Arabs in the Middle East? A pathetic 99.85%, nothing to write home about. How much land does Israel occupy? Huge, mind-boggling 0.15% of the region.

    I say, Israel has too much land!!!

    By the way, just how much land was expropriated and stolen from 800,000 Jews, used to live in Arab countries? Five times the territory, occupied (pun intended) by Israel.

    Go away with your antisemitic propaganda, moon. You're not fooling anyone.
     
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    WHY do people care so much about it??? here, lemme give you a hint:

    “Israel today concentrates the genius of the Jews. Obscured by the prevalent media narrative of the “war-torn” Middle East, Israel’s rarely-celebrated feats of commercial, scientific, and technological creativity climax the Jews’ twentieth-century saga of triumph over tragedy. Today tiny Israel, with its population of 7.23 million, five and one-half million Jewish, is second only the United States in technological contributions. In per capita innovation, Israel dwarfs all nations. The forces of civilization in the world continue to feed upon the intellectual wealth epitomized by Israel.

    Today in the Middle East, Israeli wealth looms palpably and portentously over the middens of Arab poverty. But dwarfing Israel’s own wealth is Israel’s contribution to the world economy, stemming from Israeli creativity and entrepreneurial innovation. Israel’s technical and scientific gifts to global progress loom with similar majesty over all others’ contributions with the sole exception of the United States.”

    Gilder, George. “The Israel Test.”

    These of us who recognize Israel's importance to the world, support Israel. And how do you think Arabs living in the Middle East feel about Israel? How do all these kings, sheikhs and other little despots explain to their subjects the success of Israel, comparing to their own poverty?

    That's right.
     
  21. moon

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    Well- a tumor need only occupy a very small area of the brain in order to kill ya. Restring your fiddle- and play anothet tune.

    Too much of Palestine- and that's a fact. The law says so.

    Well- somebody has fooled you into thinking that I'm ' antisemitic '- and you won't find any evidence against me.

    Half-witted racist hogwash.
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I agree with ya there moon - Israel represents clear and present danger to the Islamic Middle East, stuck in the seventh century.
     
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    And in other news 80% of Canadians support Cuba.
     
  24. moon

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    Cubans aren't a bunch of ethnic-cleansing fascists sitting on a pile of covert nukes waiting to fry your ass if you don't Kow-tow to ' Jewish ' supremacy.
     
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    Very well put!

    I too support Israel's right to exist, but it seems there are some very bad hombres within the Israeli government. Its policies and actions are often criminal.
     

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