"Trump cannot be taken literally"

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Sandy Shanks, Mar 9, 2017.

  1. GreenBayMatters

    GreenBayMatters Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    LOL In almost 5 years, you've not even seen any examples of admitted press errors of fact that they've had to retract? LOL Even your mom wouldn't believe that. Keep fishing, I ain't biting.
     
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    When you ask if Trump will retract his statement on behalf of Bush. Do you honestly think Trump cares weather one is republican or democrat? That is not at all why Trump was elected.

    Matter of fact your American "republicans", are sick and tired of both parties. Thus an outsider, is now the most powerful insider.
     
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  3. Durandal

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    Errors? Since when are errors equivalent to lies?
     
  4. Durandal

    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

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    I like that your link cites Breitfart talking about the Washington Post rather than the Washington Post directly on its first "humongous lie". The Breitfart article does what I'd expect - editorializes like crazy, worse than the worst MSM. Then it finally links to the WaPo article, which has been updated in response to the criticism it has received.

    (Update: This column generated criticism from many readers who said that her statements were entirely factual, as she once was a secretary, and thus were not worthy of Three Pinocchios. John Sexton of Breitbart wrote a critique in which he said the column was “poorly reasoned.” Even our old colleague Howard Kurtz berated us. Fiorina herself said the column was “ludicrous” and “sort of floored me.” In determining the rating, we tried to be consistent with other cases when a politician would use words that, while on the face accurate, gave a misleading picture. A good example is the Three Pinocchio rating we gave President Obama’s campaign in 2012 for a campaign video narrated by Tom Hanks, concerning his mother’s fight with an insurance company. That column also generated criticism, though mainly from Democrats. We strive for consistency in how we apply these ratings. In this case, Fiorina’s career really began after she received her MBA, when she was hired as an AT&T sales representative. We did not, as Fiorina falsely claimed on “Meet the Press,” assert she was not a secretary.)

    ... Long story short, there is no "humongous lie" here on the part of WaPo, but lies have been told about WaPo based on it. Calling this "three Pinochios" article a "humongous lie" is itself a lie.

    For its second alleged "humongous lie" by WaPo, your link is kind enough to forego the Breitfart front and link directly to WaPo as it claims:
    During the 2012 presidential campaign, Mitt Romney accurately pointed out that in his first term as president, President Barry did not visit Israel. This was an incontrovertible fact, and still Romney was tarred as a liar with two Pinocchios.

    President Barry... lol. I can tell your link is very impartial. :rolleyes: Anway, it's again not clear how WaPo is supposed to have lied here, since again WaPo did not print anything contrary to the "incontrovertible fact" that 0bama hadn't visited Israel. However, that's obviously not the end of the story:

    The Facts
    The State Department historian’s office maintains a list of presidential foreign travels, so we can quickly see which presidents have visited Israel — and when. Here’s the list since Israel’s founding:

    Harry Truman: no visit

    Dwight Eisenhower: no visit

    John Kennedy: no visit

    Lyndon Johnson: no visit

    Richard Nixon: sixth year of presidency

    Gerald Ford: no visit

    Jimmy Carter: third year of presidency

    Ronald Reagan: no visit

    George H.W. Bush: no visit

    Bill Clinton: 4 visits—in the second, third, fourth and sixth years of his presidency

    George W. Bush: 2 visits—in the eighth year of his presidency



    According to this list, only four of the last 11 presidents visited Israel during their presidency, and two — Nixon and George W. Bush — waited until their second term to make their first trip. In both cases, they visited in the last year of their presidencies (Nixon resigned because of the Watergate affair shortly after his trip.)

    Only Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton, then, visited Israel in their first term. And of the last four presidents, two never visited Israel, one visited in his second term and one visited in his first term.

    Thus Obama’s failure to travel to Israel thus far is not unusual at all.

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    I expect the rest is similar. See, no lies on the part of WaPo. Just allegations of "humongous lies" that don't actually exist.
     
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    Xtremenerd Well-Known Member

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    Bruh, if someone says Obama didn't visit Israel, and WaPo calls them a liar, they are lying, and the fact that its not unusual is not the point, the point is WaPo called a person a liar when he said the truth
     
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    Muslim ban. That's one lie. It's a ban of ANYONE from those countries. If it was a Muslim ban, the country wouldn't matter. It would be a world ban on actual Muslims no matter where you're from.

    The entire ***** assault LIE. They always leave a very important part out of that rude comment he made and that's the "they let you". If he hypothetically grabs someone that lets him, it's not assault. It's NOT rape. And the whole thing isn't even based on facts anyway. No proof he ever did it since all his supposed accusers have shut up or flat out lied about it.

    Trump being against ALL immigrants is the other lie the MSM constantly harps on. They always leave out the "illegal" part. Kind of changes the meaning dramatically doesn't it? But why should the MSM care about facts?

    He NEVER called ALL Mexicans rapists. He NEVER called ALL women nasty.

    Lie after lie after lie.
     
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    That is a pretty sad commentary, but it is a consequence of a Republican self-fulfilling prophecy. A recent study showed that only 14% of Republicans trust the media. So, whenever there are polls concerning the media's trustworthiness, the media always ranks low.

    The people who don't trust the media are Trump's people, and, like you, they are not bothered by his dalliance with the truth. Other Americans wonder why we can't trust our President. They are the vast majority of Americans, BTW.
     
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    again, more Americans trust Trump than the media, and yes, by the way, I am bothered when Trump says something patently false, fortunately he hasn't done that in a while
     
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    If he should not be taken literally or cannot be taken literally, then he should not be President of a country, Governor of a state, or Mayor of a city.
     
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    If Trump believes what he's saying is the truth or are the facts, he's not lying.

    Now Barack Obama and Crooked Hillary are right out psychopathic liars.
     
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    lol, false, but feel free to fake like your speaking for the American people
     
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    Goebbels used to tell people the same thing about Hitler.
     
  14. snakestretcher

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    None of the above 'quotes' are factual. You made them up in an attempt at defending your orange goon.
     
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    And yet, I'm not aware of the media making these simplistic claims about Trump based on the things he's said. It's your fellow uninformed haters who aren't a part of the media who sink to that level. People like those on this forum.. NOT the media. At least, not beyond simple headlines.
     
  16. truth and justice

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    Since his supporters have said that everyone should not take Trump's words literally, "This is not a Muslim ban" Figuratively means it is a Muslim ban as per his pre-election promise, "Not all Mexicans are rapists, I assume some are good people" Figuratively means I imply that I think all Mexicans are rapists and drug dealers. ( Caviat - not actual quotes).

    Also who is "they" in "they let you"? It's quite funny that you also said (let's say implied) that he is a liar !
     
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    Wow, that's a boat load of turd polishing.
    All trump does is lie, and his supporters know it, but they don't care as long as he promotes their bigotry and hate.
     
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    I still find it hard to believe that we actually put someone like Donald Trump in charge of our government. Fortunately we have checks and balances in our judicial and legislative branches that will curb his worst excesses.

    The real problem is some of the incompetents he's put in his cabinet. Scott Pruitt is probably the worst example. The damage that will result to the earth's environment from his stewardship may be catastrophic.
     
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    Trump called it a Muslim ban, the name stuck

    calling the ACA Obamacare is fake news by that logic as it's really called the ACA
     
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    If he lies, please quote him directly. You can't add "ALL" or remove "ILLEGAL" in front of a quote and think you're smart. You're just ignorant. Obama obviously called ALL cops morons when he accused some of them of being racist then? Hillary called EVERYONE undesirables right? Right? Or just some? You can't interpret people's words in your own head. You have to quote them. Trump NEVER assaulted anyone. He never RAPED anyone. He never grabbed anyone. He NEVER called ALL Mexicans anything bad, just specific ones who actually were murders and thugs, because those were the specific ones he was referring to. Never called ALL women nasty. The quote is right there. SINGULAR "WOMAN" not women. Do you understand what plural is? Guess not.
     
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    "They" is the women he supposedly grabbed. Can you please provide the video showing him grabbing anyone by the privates? I can show video of Hillary claiming she keeps hot sauce in her purse, because hey, Black people love spicy food. Nothing racist there folks=) I can show video of Hillary not giving a crap about people she allowed to die. Its all there in black and white. She didn't think it mattered how they died. She didn't care. Obama thought a teenage thug was his long lost son....until he saw an actual picture of him and not the cute little 8 yr old the MSM was showing. WHOOOPS!
     
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    Is this an example of the media lying?

    http://money.cnn.com/2017/03/10/news/economy/february-jobs-report/

    U.S. economy added 235,000 jobs in Trump's first full month

    President Trump's first full month was a big one for jobs.
    The U.S. economy added a robust 235,000 jobs in February, the Labor Department said Friday.

    The unemployment rate ticked down to 4.7% from 4.8% in the previous month. It's a vast improvement from 2009, when unemployment peaked at 10% after the financial crisis.

    "The U.S. economy is doing very very well at the moment," says Jeremy Cook, chief economist at World First, a foreign exchange firm.

    Economists say it will be a challenge for Trump to fulfill his promise to create 25 million jobs over the next 10 years. The unemployment rate is already very low, and many Baby Boomers have either retired or left the job market.

    At least in his first full month, though, Trump is on pace to fulfill that promise.

    ...
     
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    Then you don't actually watch or read the news. Ostrich syndrome. Heres but one example. And the amount of times NPR and others purposely leave out "illegal" when talking about Trump and immigration is astoundingly pathetic.

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    And since we can't take him literally, what he says can mean whatever you want.

    Just know that he's serious about it! :dizzy:

    So much BS - too much to believe. My brain still has a hard time accepting that this is actually happening in THIS country. I start to think of it as a non-reality because it just doesn't seem real. It is a reality TV show come to life.
     
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