Hawaii judge puts Trump's travel ban on hold

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  1. The Mello Guy

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    A federal judge in Hawaii has issued a nationwide temporary restraining order on President Donald Trump's revised travel ban.

    U.S. District Judge Derrick Watson issued his ruling Wednesday after hearing arguments on Hawaii's request for a temporary restraining order involving the ban.

    https://www.google.com/amp/abcnews....puts-trumps-travel-ban-hold/story?id=46157273

    Yet another unconstitutional EO attempt. Maybe travel ban 3.0 will finally get it right lol. How many times will he try it before he gives up?
     
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    Of course it's a travel ban. Citizens of 6 nations were banned from travelling to the US, as outlined in Trump's executive order of March 6. This order was to take effect on March 16. There are a few exceptions to this travel ban.

    For the OP, yes, this ruling surprised me a bit. It looks like the judge is taking the clown's comments about banning Muslims he made during the campaign into account. I'm really not sure if this ruling could survive another look by the rest of the 9th or, should it come to it, SCOTUS.
     
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    Will trump actually fight this time or will he cave again and rewrite it?
     
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    How could a judge dare consider the words of the ass? Doesn't he know that Trump is not subject to the same laws governing honesty that the rest of the world is? Indeed, I assume that Trump will announce himself god any day and the Pubs will bow down and worship him.
     
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    The constitution gives extremely broad discretion to the president with respect to enforcement of immigration. The judge is the only one not following the law here. I look forward to seeing this activist tried for treason if a single American is so much as injured by someone from one of these countries.
     
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    It's Trump....I'm thinking he'll fight it. He is really being quite petulant & childish, most sane people know there is no need for this temporary ban on citizens of the nations listed however the man-child moron made a stupid promise to his base to "ban Muslims until we figure out what is going on....". The vetting procedures in place for visitors, immigrants and refugees are already more than adequate.

    I don't believe there will be a 3rd EO, it's just too embarrassing. I also think they'll get this overturned.
     
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    That will depend on how long he wants to leave the DP owning all these dangerous immigrants. Someone should have asked the judges involved if they felt lucky before they made Trump's day. ;-)
     
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    LOL!!!

    I love it!!

    Trump just cannot win.
     
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    Why use future tense? They worship him now....
    I have long ago figured out why the most religious are firmly GOP - if you can reach adulthood and still believe in an imaginary friend, you can swallow all the illogical swill the GOP puts out. Well, let me clarify - illogical if you aren't rich. If you're rich, it makes perfect sense.
    They are taking Trump on faith alone. Faith is belief in the face of contrary facts.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    what would you call it?

    a "Muslim ban"?
     
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    I remember when a judge was about the law, not partisan politics...The answer, fill the 100 or so empty seats in the district and circuit courts with real judges and change the law/procedure to preclude judge shopping. Start in the 9th Circuit so as to fix the most screwed up court.
     
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    No, the DNC does
     
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    Wrong again SFB.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I remember when Presidents were not Fascists or racists.
     
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    So do I. I even remember when America was a country, not right wing Americans and left wing Americans, and Nazis and ....... oh hell, all the others.
     
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    Trump's Ban 2.0 is still anti-Muslim, as it only targets Muslims and is simply extension of his campaign pledge to ban all Muslims.
     
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    Now you sound like Stephen Miller!! This is a society with checks and balance and if that part is missing or ignored then it might as well be a dictatorship. The judges are doing exactly what they are meant to be doing and this is how you know the system still stand a chance agains a man-child!!
     
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    Really? Trump is the first president to be elected in at least 20 years that didn't solicit the most donations from industry. Industry controlling government is textbook fascism.
     
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    Trump's comments, opinions, writings, scribblings, Tweets, smoke signals, tree carvings, graffiti, texts, emails, or personal diaries have nothing to do if something is legal or not.
     
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    Trump raised hundreds of millions of dollars for his election.

    he is bought and sold by the corporations.
     
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    Trump will definitely win this round.......just needs to stick to his guns.......let the 9th Circus do what they usually do........then get overturned by the Supremes.
     
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    Congress, and the president, and more importantly, the majority of Americans support the ban. We'll need a few more years between major terrorist attacks before these opinions change.

    https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2017-02-08/poll-majority-support-trumps-travel-ban
     
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    As I remember when idiots who have never seen either didn't misuse the word so as to make it silly.
     
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    Trump is a race-baiter and a religion-bater.

    and a Fascist wanna-be.
     
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    I'm sort of wondering why this argument is playing either.
     

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