Rep. Steve King Defends ‘Somebody Else’s Babies’ Remarks

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by superbadbrutha, Mar 14, 2017.

  1. WillReadmore

    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 21, 2013
    Messages:
    60,420
    Likes Received:
    16,541
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I didn't ask why you picked France.
     
  2. Louisiana75

    Louisiana75 Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Aug 8, 2011
    Messages:
    11,363
    Likes Received:
    11,580
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    We've been asking that for years wondering why so many blacks can't do better for themselves and people like you have assured us that we are privileged and blacks are not.
     
  3. Brewskier

    Brewskier Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2011
    Messages:
    48,910
    Likes Received:
    9,641
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    You are a racially aware person, so it should be obvious to you. When you go to an all white area, you see differences than when you go to an all black area. When you spend time around whites, you see differences in how they behave compared to when you spend time around blacks.
     
    Louisiana75 likes this.
  4. WillReadmore

    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 21, 2013
    Messages:
    60,420
    Likes Received:
    16,541
    Trophy Points:
    113
    This argument in favor of racism dodges all other factors as well as ignoring progress and accomplishments made by others.

    Plus, it must be embarrassing for the master race to not be able to spell the names of those claimed as members.

    The mention of Marco Polo especially calls out this issue, as Ibn Battuta, an African, explored at the same time and covered far more of the globe. Individual trips of Ibn Battuta were longer than all Polo's exploration. And, we have no written material from Polo, while you can read Ibn Battuta's detailed account today - from Amazon or other reasonable outlets - in the original Arabic or English translations. He reports of his interaction with the people, of his time as a legal magistrate in foreign lands, of his involvement in trade negotiations and economics, of local religions, culture, etc.

    Why do you suppose you have heard of Polo and not of Battuta??
     
    Last edited: Mar 17, 2017
  5. WillReadmore

    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 21, 2013
    Messages:
    60,420
    Likes Received:
    16,541
    Trophy Points:
    113
    No, you are far from an unbiased observer.
     
  6. Louisiana75

    Louisiana75 Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Aug 8, 2011
    Messages:
    11,363
    Likes Received:
    11,580
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    Marco Polo was born 60 years before Buttata. Your information on written details is completely incorrect.

    http://www.encyclopedia.com/people/history/explorers-travelers-and-conquerors-biographies/marco-polo
    http://afe.easia.columbia.edu/mongols/pop/menu/class_marco.htm
    http://www.travel-studies.com/category/travel-classics-topics/4-marco-polo

    Annnnnd Battuta was born in Morocco but was not a black African.
     
    Last edited: Mar 17, 2017
  7. WillReadmore

    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 21, 2013
    Messages:
    60,420
    Likes Received:
    16,541
    Trophy Points:
    113
    The travels of Ibm Battuta were dictated by him in person. It is a first hand statement of his travels, which were far more extensive than those of Polo - from whom we have nothing.

    Your racism is noted - along with your efforts to narrow its focus.
     
  8. Brewskier

    Brewskier Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2011
    Messages:
    48,910
    Likes Received:
    9,641
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    I'll trust most people who have had experience around white people and black people will agree there are cultural differences between the two groups. Some rich, white progressives living in all-white suburbs tend to lack this experience and often times substitute their ideology for reality.
     
  9. Louisiana75

    Louisiana75 Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Aug 8, 2011
    Messages:
    11,363
    Likes Received:
    11,580
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    And again, he wasn't a black African as you seem to be making him out to be so not sure what your point is.

    And am I supposed to be bothered by your "racism noted". We are all so tired of that, it means absolutely nothing.
     
    Last edited: Mar 17, 2017
  10. Brewskier

    Brewskier Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2011
    Messages:
    48,910
    Likes Received:
    9,641
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    What's wrong with acknowledging that European whites have done more for the advancement of human civilization than blacks have? The list of accomplishments of both groups greatly supports that argument, so what's the problem?

    As a society, we have no problem acknowledging that blacks are better at basketball, Olympic running, and other things, but whites are not allowed to have a single advantage over blacks, in any area, (besides world genocide, starting wars, and whatever other left-wing talking point applies). As someone who promotes this worldview, can you explain the reasoning behind it? I already know the answer, of course, but I want to see your explanation anyway.
     
  11. Brewskier

    Brewskier Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2011
    Messages:
    48,910
    Likes Received:
    9,641
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    If you want a good laugh, look up the "we was kings" internet meme. Lots of hilarious examples of sub-Saharan Africans taking credit for the accomplishments of non-sub-Saharan African groups.
     
    Louisiana75 likes this.
  12. superbadbrutha

    superbadbrutha Banned

    Joined:
    Feb 10, 2006
    Messages:
    52,269
    Likes Received:
    6,446
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    What is obvious is that you have never spent anytime around black people.

    I've seen both races in a good light and I have seen both races in a negative light.
     
  13. Brewskier

    Brewskier Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2011
    Messages:
    48,910
    Likes Received:
    9,641
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    But you see differences between the two groups, right? How they talk, behave? The things they are into?
     
  14. WillReadmore

    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 21, 2013
    Messages:
    60,420
    Likes Received:
    16,541
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Well, the SUBJECT is racism, so I'd say yes, you should be aware of the subject.

    Do you think there is some other excuse for King's diatribe on "somebody else's babies"?
     
  15. WillReadmore

    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 21, 2013
    Messages:
    60,420
    Likes Received:
    16,541
    Trophy Points:
    113
    As a rich white progressive let me just say that I experience similar feelings when I come upon people who are just as white, but lack the rich and progressive components.
     
  16. Brewskier

    Brewskier Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2011
    Messages:
    48,910
    Likes Received:
    9,641
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    I'm sure minorities are very thankful rich white progressives like you are standing up for them. I know you'd like to think they are, at least. But thanks for the admission with respect to the poor. So many progressives pretend to care about them.

    In my experience, those people with the least amount of problems in their own lives, thanks to the "privilege" that they project onto others, are the most willing to take on the problems of other people. Seems really patronizing and condescending, to me. I suspect a lot of minorities feel the same.
     
    Last edited: Mar 17, 2017
    Louisiana75 likes this.
  17. PoliticswithAllies

    PoliticswithAllies New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 15, 2017
    Messages:
    24
    Likes Received:
    6
    Trophy Points:
    3
    I would like to know where you got your "factual" information from!! So tell me exactly, where did the "Native Americans" migrate from? So going by your theory, we can conclude that nobody ever originally owned any piece of land, we all discovered it, hence, we are all immigrant. 1, that is very wrong, 2, even if you are right, you have just made my point for me. Everybody talking right now are immigrants so who are we to judge others from doing what our ancestors once did to get us to where we are today!!!
     
  18. Brewskier

    Brewskier Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2011
    Messages:
    48,910
    Likes Received:
    9,641
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    I learned about the Bering land bridge in elementary school. No clue how you could have missed it.

    https://www.scientificamerican.com/...on-bering-land-bridge-for-thousands-of-years/
     
  19. Lil Mike

    Lil Mike Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2011
    Messages:
    51,800
    Likes Received:
    23,068
    Trophy Points:
    113
    No...you insisted that I was talking about the US even though I specifically said France. You seemed like you needed some extra help in understanding the flow of conversation and what the subject matter was.
     
  20. Lil Mike

    Lil Mike Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2011
    Messages:
    51,800
    Likes Received:
    23,068
    Trophy Points:
    113

    Ahem. It's spelled, "Kangz."

    White People! Am I right?
     
  21. micfranklin

    micfranklin Banned

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2009
    Messages:
    17,729
    Likes Received:
    1,887
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    That's because way too many places in Africa are involved in some form of conflict and have been. Then again I don't see a ton of people getting overly upset and getting on a pedestal about that continent either. Haven't heard much about people here showing outrage about anything in say, the Congo.

    Or much of the African continent in general. Or parts of Asia or South America, namely in those countries that the average person probably can't even name. Anybody remember the last time Sudan was even mentioned in the news?

    And? Maybe some of their original cultures are tied to Islam. Or maybe their original cultures and religions got wiped out.

    Or when they can do something about it.

    Seems like many whites here don't mind outsiders as long as they're not any shade of brown, or darker than that. Not to mention that the Sentinelese are among many other tribes who are rooted in their old ways and don't want any part of the outside world.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncontacted_peoples
     
  22. micfranklin

    micfranklin Banned

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2009
    Messages:
    17,729
    Likes Received:
    1,887
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
  23. micfranklin

    micfranklin Banned

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2009
    Messages:
    17,729
    Likes Received:
    1,887
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Depends on which section of each group you're talking about. I'm pretty sure trailer park redneck whites differ enough from upper class whites, just as blacks from the uber ghetto differ from middle or upper class blacks.
     
  24. Merwen

    Merwen Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 10, 2014
    Messages:
    11,574
    Likes Received:
    1,731
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Middle class whites tend to be more respectful of the law and to really try to follow it.

    IMO members of the black middle class tend to justify certain actions on the basis that they're owed something, so it's OK to, for example, receive stolen goods. The black underclass thinks it's OK to be disrespectful to authority figures, especially the police. The white underclass knows that if it is disrespectful to the police there will be consequences, and accepts them. The black underclass does not--it expects to be understood and coddled no matter what.

    Advantaged black students at ivy league colleges have recently made it clear that they are unwilling to expend the work necessary to understand the great Western classics.. Everyone else has to, in order to to pass the basic courses, and most find it just as difficult, but some black students have gone on record that they feel they're special because they're black and that they shouldn't have to.

    Black people tend to give up easily and blame racism. Whites tend to grind their teeth and work harder.



    This is not true of all black people. I have seen some extremely impressive black people that surpass the behavior most whites are capable of and that don't indulge in blaming racism for their own shortcomings. They are self correcting and have as good a culture as anyone else.
     
    Stonewall Jackson likes this.
  25. Merwen

    Merwen Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 10, 2014
    Messages:
    11,574
    Likes Received:
    1,731
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Unfortunately "progressive" does not stand for that which you believe it to.
     

Share This Page