Trump Effect: Jewish and Muslim Organizations Form New Alliance

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  1. Private Citizen

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    Peaceful land of the Free? You are not serious are you? You can not be subject to a jurisdiction and free. It's impossible to be a subject and free. You may be less restricted but that does not equal freedom. The term land of the Free is propaganda and it makes me sick when I see slaves pretending to be free. Those that believe they are free when they are not are HOPELESSLY enslaved. That means true freedom is unattainable as long as the land of the slaves believe themselves to be free.
     
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    American Muslim and Jews have never really had a problem with one another. Just go to Chicago and you will see Jewish and Muslim neighborhoods directly adjacent to one another and no walls separating them. They live in peace with little or zero violence happening in either of their neighborhoods. You can be walking through a Jewish neighborhood and cross a street and be in a Muslim neighborhood. The only differences you will notice is the shops and the restaurants change what they are selling and the clothes people wear.
     
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    What I don't get about this is why are Jews upset with the ban? You would think they would be happy. It will send more Jews seeking asylum to Israel instead of coming to the United States.
    Many Jews seeking asylum in the United States are Russian criminals any way. We don't need anymore thieves and thugs here. I think the Russian mob has enough degenerates in America already. As for the Muslims there is too much propaganda surrounding them to know what is actual and factual so I don't have an opinion on that matter. I guess I'd have to say they don't need to be here either. If it's so bad at home pick up a gun and fight for yours. Better to die on your feet then live on your knees.
     
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    They are now banning human rights activists in Israel. What's that tell you? The difference is the thread is about American Jews not Israeli. Even though most American Jews support Israel and everything she does most wouldn't leave their cozy safe haven here in the states to go and live there. That's the thing about bigotry it is contradictory. What's good for the goose is not good for the gander to bigots.
     
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    The Islamic texts say that eventually they (the Muslims) will have to KILL the Jews, so of course this anti-Trump love-fest can only be short-lived. Muslims will go back to being Muslims in the very near future.

    Narrated Abu Huraira:
    Allah's Apostle said, "The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. "O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him."
     
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    Just a Muslim ban.
     
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    Great. Did they also change the parts of the Islamic texts that teach utter hatred for those same Jews? Did they? That would be cheaper, easier, and would have a much much longer lasting effect.
     
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    No, they are largely RELIGIOUS disputes....religion is the main (not only, however) problem in the Middle East. Both sides are supremacists: we know Islam teaches supermacism, and Judaism teaches that they are "god's chosen people" (i.e. better than you and I are.) The Nazis were also supremacists. Religious supremacism and the fact that religion takes people away from reality are the two main problems.
     
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    Keep in mind that the main reason that Bannon and many Christians utterly hate Jews is because Jesus himself hates Jews....according to the Bible Jews are to be burned alive in a lake of fire, and certainly can't get into the magic invisible elitist exclusive (pearly) gated community in the sky ("heaven"). I blame Jesus' hatred for Bannon's hatred.
     
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    They are all so cowardly that they steadfastly refuse, day after day after day, to improve their religion's texts which say to kill gays. So yes, to some degree they do all think alike (but not in a good way, of course.)
    In all fairness, Muslims, Hindus, Christians also refuse to alter the parts of their own beliefs that say to kill innocent people (gays.)
     
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    Yes, their religious texts BOTH teach hatred of "the other".
     
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    Muslim camps will unfortunately be a reality, some day, I fear.
     
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    How about a temporary immigrant ban from the countries, traditionally supplying terrorists? Sounds better?
     
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    Of course they do. Ask each one of them this question: "your god says to hate that other group...did your god get that right or wrong?"

    You won't like the answers that you get (hint: they are not loving answers - unlike with Modern Secular Humanists.)
     
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    You mean a Muslim ban.
     
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    Why is that?
    are you restricted by the legalities of laws or something?
     
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    I think I understand your view. It's not right for God-Loving people to love one another, and get along.
     
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    We are debt slave's. Required by law to pay a percentage of our fruits of labor. Don't pay your taxes then you will be a full fledged slave. Take some time to see how words are defined in law. Words like employees (servants) employer (master) employed (bound) (bound also means enslaved) imprisoned (enslaved). The 14th amendment says it all when it makes people subjects. Another interesting definition in law is the word BOND (all caps). That definition explains a lot. It explains why you don't get the original copy of your birth certificate. Another thing about slaves is they can't own property. Since the farm act of 1933 all property inside the US is owned by the IMF with the treasury department as the receiver of said property. When I say property I mean all property. The computer you use is not really yours. The couch you sit on doesn't belong to you either. Sound far fetched? A simple test will open your eyes to the truth. Grab your old dusty couch drag it into the front yard where your nosey neighbors can see. Then get your axe and start chopping it to pieces. When the neighbors call the police they will show up and cite you for destruction of property. That couch belongs to the bank and they want it back if you don't pay your slave tax. You yourself are property. Threaten to end your life and the police will imprison (enslave) you to secure the banks property. Once you are enslaved (imprisoned) they are not shy about informing you that you are government property. You can be charged with defacing government property if you get a tattoo in prison or when in the military service. Most of the time they will not enforce this law but it does exist. If you get your ear pierced while in military service and you get an infection from the peircing they will charge you with defacing government property. Face the facts you live a less restricted life. Not free. Freedom gives you the right to own property and to do with that property as you see fit. You don't need to get a building permit (permission) to add a room in your basement. Because you can walk around without physical chains on your ankles doesn't make you free. Canadians, French, Cubans, British, Mexicans....every other country in the world can do that. Now I've told you why you are not free. Tell me why you believe you are free.
     
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    You still don't get it. Or maybe you just pretend not to get it. My point was that when I make a serious accusation against someone – like when I write that an influential jewish religious and/or political leader advocates the mass murder of Palestinian children – I link to an article from a well-known jewish newspaper or news site that contains his actual quotes, because I refuse to rely exclusively on articles that were written by jews' critics / opponents / enemies.

    You, on the other hand, can't seem to do that. You claimed that Bannon is an "antisemite", and your "proof" are links to sites that are run by Bannon's critics. As I've said before, I don't know whether or not Bannon is an "antisemite" because I've never paid much attention to him. I just think it's strange that you keep accusing him of "antisemitism", yet you can't produce a single "antisemitic" text that was written or published by him.

    I keep hearing that he runs this "right-wing extremist" news site called Breitbart. If he's really an "antisemite", wouldn't it make sense that he would use this site to "spread his hate against jews"? Link to one of his "antisemitic" Breitbart articles, then I will read it and tell you what I think about it. I promise you that I won't shy away from it.
    Yeah, that's the ticket. If you just keep attacking and insulting me, our readers won't notice that you don't have any arguments. Good job, Lexi.
    Actually, you did say that. Here are some of the smears that you have excreted in this thread:

    When you post in the way you did above and emphasising Jews it does come over as antisemetic. Antisemitism like all hatreds is trying to present people as different from what they are. When you say Jews all the time for nasty happenings it is like you are trying to present all Jews in this way.
    (...)
    It very very rarely is warranted to criticise an ethnicity. Generally that comes from the idea that they are all the same and no ethnicity, 'race' or anyone else is. That is where your 'Jews' headlines say more than you seem to know.
    (...)

    No. However every thing you say does seem to amount to disparaging Jews. That is generally a sign if you can only see bad in a people. Pretty obvious.

    Of course, none of this is true, but don't let that stop you, Lexi.
    I know you didn't, and that's yet another example of how you ignore what I write. You claimed that Steve Bannon is "antisemitic", so I quoted the following part of his Wikipedia page:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Bannon

    The ADL is one of America's biggest and most prominent jewish organizations, and its aim is to fight "antisemitism". Whenever something "antisemitic" happens, no matter how insignificant, the ADL is always there to condemn it, and the media dutifully report its comments as if they were God's words.

    Yet here we have Steve Bannon, a close adviser to the president of the United States, who has been accused of "antisemitism", and the ADL's bigwigs say that they haven't been able to find any "antisemitic" statements made by him.

    I find that interesting, to say the least. You, on the other hand, prefer to ignore it since it doesn't fit your agenda.
     
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    Yup individual freedom is of course a bliss, nothing to tend but yourself alone, but what if I live in California then my Mom and Dad are in Washington, could I make a road from California to Washington by myself alone?, or how many days is it for me to reach Washington on a horseback, then is it okay that here in the US I'm riding a horseback while my neighboring country are driving sedans in well paved road?.
    Reality is we need each other and if we are grouped then we should be regulated for we do have different needs and traits.
    By the way the first day we are born, we are already slaves of our own natural human needs.
     
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    You confusing sales tax and income tax. Every gallon of gas sold in America has a portion of the tax to pay for roads. Every quart of oil has a portion of tax reserved to pay for roads. Every tire, automobile, and any other product associated with roads and the vehicles that use them is taxed. Some states tax the use of the road.
    I'm talking about being taxed because I need to provide a life for my family or even just myself. I am also talking about not having the right to own any real property. Including myself. You can talk about the bliss of ignorance all you want. Just because you "believe " you are free doesn't in fact make you free. It's just a lie you tell yourself to not have to deal with the enormity of the real world. In the real world you, me and any other citizen or subject are defined in law as slaves. You think getting a fiat currency for your labor is real payment. The only thing that makes it work is getting the rest of the world to except it. When it becomes rejected all your life savings becomes toilet paper.
    China is currently trying to get reserve currency status. When they succeed you will see how much of slave you are.
    As for being a slave to eating and human basic needs you are correct. That is why then people say God is their master. It's also why those things are not supposed to be taxed.
     
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    Here's what the despicable jewish mass murderer Madeleine Albright had to say about Muslims in the Middle East:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madeleine_Albright

    And here's what she says about Muslim immigrants in the US:
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-bialik-white-house-refugee-ban-a7546896.html

    Now that's chutzpah.
     
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    For some reason, the left doesn't know the difference between a travel ban or undocumentable foreigners, a refugee, or the difference between a legal and illegal immigrant.

    The TDS rolls on and so it goes.
     
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    In the Mid East, Jews and Muslims haven't always been foes as per the following article.
    Hostilities between the 2 groups only began with the invasion of Foreign Zionist terrorist Gangs and militant Jewish colonists from the West.
    You're right in asserting that the native Jews & indigenous Muslims have the same lineage.

    Top Ten Myths about the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict”
    http://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com/2010/06/17/top-ten-myths-about-the-israeli-palestinian-conflict/

    Myth #1 – Jews and Arabs have always been in conflict in the region.

    EXCERPT "Although Arabs were a majority in Palestine prior to the creation of the state of Israel, there had always been a Jewish population, as well. For the most part, Jewish Palestinians got along with their Arab neighbors. This began to change with the onset of the Zionist movement, because the Zionists rejected the right of the Palestinians to self-determination and wanted Palestine for their own, to create a “Jewish State” in a region where Arabs were the majority and owned most of the land.

    The British Hope-Simpson report of 1930 similarly noted that Jewish residents of non-Zionist communities in Palestine enjoyed friendship with their Arab neighbors. “It is quite a common sight to see an Arab sitting in the verandah of a Jewish house”, the report noted. “The position is entirely different in the Zionist colonies." CONTINUED
     

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