Getting Healthcare Right

The big problem today is that the size of the workforce has exceeded employment vacancies, inviting exploitation and exposing the shortcomings of supply and demand in a free-market system. Regulation of every facet of our lives is necessary in an imperfect society. However, we don't need to tolerate BAD government; standing together we can demand BETTER government.

 

Amen.

I'd add that the ACA has resulted in a mild reduction in the rate of increase of per capita health care expenditure in America.

When people have seen higher bills it has had to do with changing the cost distribution. That is, some pay more and some pay less than they would have before the ACA and some just didn't get much health care.

 

No we discuss options with the family but we are under no real obligation to put 99 year old grandma through invasive and horrific interventions if they are not going to be life saving

And maaaate! Anyone who thinks that there is "nothing worse than death" has never seen a person literally rot to death on a ventilator

As for the Morphine - depends on the framing of your drug administration act - here someone can ASSIST a person in administration of any medication.

 

What do you base that on? There are a LOT of countries with nationalised health care that are not spending what America currently is

 

The ONLY way to eliminate the cost distribution problem is through universal coverage with a single payer system, but we must first eliminate the stigma of the words "socialized medicine".

 

Canada is not on the list but quite a few European countries are. So is New Zealand.

https://www.humanservices.gov.au/customer/services/medicare/reciprocal-health-care-agreements

 

Indeed. Ask yourself if "these" countries have illegal Alien population approaching what we have here.

Percentage-wise?

 

Indeed. Productive members of the society pay disproportionately more, and the rest pay disproportionately less. Half the country loves it, half the country hates it. Welcome to socialism, Comrade.

 

Yes as a fair number are in Europe. But why do you think illegal aliens are covered by national health care schemes?

 

I agree with you. I agree with active euthanasia and I believe any responsible person, especially once they are older, should have a living will that will shield their families from those decisions.

None of those countries are the US and I have yet to see any bill that does anything to lower the cost of care in the US. Every bill Ive seen just shifts the cost to someone else.

 

I think this is the point. National health seems to lay some impetus to ration care to those who can most benefit I.e. If we had to choose who got the last bed in ICU we would choose the person with the best chance of surviving and having a decent quality of life. Whereas private health where profit is made off bodies in the bed the is an impetus to admit everyone to ICU regardless of expected outcome. I know this because I have worked both private and public. Public has its downfalls but it does stop the over servicing you see in private health

 

It's amusing that so many Americans worship the ‘Free Market’ but when a bill is put forward to allow the purchase of medical supplies worldwide, it’s turned down.

So much for the free market and competition, there’s no competition between the American drug companies; they operate a cartel and have been screwing you poor suckers for years. Don’t tell the Europeans about Liberty and Freedom until you get some.

 

Obviously you don't understand how $15.00 for Tylenol is arrived at. Government intrusion into the health market.
http://www.healthcarefinancenews.com/blog/why-aspirin-taken-hospital-can-cost-upwards-25

I wish all those who include single payer health insurance on their wish list could experience tratment by the VA health delivery system.

http://www.ncpa.org/sub/dpd/index.php?Article_ID=24455

 

You’re modifying your position so your reply to me here is irrelevant because of your shift. You had said “If we abolish freedom and tell people what they must eat, how they must exercise and sleep, what habits they must adhere to- we could impact their physical health. We would however, impose on their mental health- and that has brutal consequences.”
Now, after initial vagueness, you refer to the size of soft drinks and calories being regulated as though it’s spreading like wildfire. You probably oppose a coming ban on hydrogenated oil and high fructose corn syrup too.

Do you really want to help the criminal capitalist by limiting our right to sue for damages? If so you’re in a teeny tiny minority.

That’s extreme hyperbole to me. Dow Corning is still in business, yet you speak of them being “bankrupted” and “destroyed”.

But if a company must be wiped out as an example to others, so be it. We have no shortage of corporations. But you’re over the top here.

Sounds like a lousy attorney. There’s something called “an appeal” and probably other measures a good attorney could offer. I just settled a suit against the builder of my house for substandard construction resulting in water intrusion. I got the amount I needed and got the corrective work done with a small amount left over for details. So there are all kinds of stories. But I’m not willing to pass laws stopping anyone from being sued. Frivolous lawsuits are different.

 

You can blame the feds for that. I personally think you should be able to buy drugs from whoever. If it's purchased from overseas, it should just have the caveat that it isn't approved by the FDA.

 

They are not as a rule, although some States such as Kalifornia cover them in one way or another. And Illegals are huge drain on our economy as hospital emergency rooms provide them with services, and this drives costs up.

 

If those illegals though are working and paying taxes in your country - then they should benefit at least partially. I know that illegals here hold special insurance for health care. I know because at least one hospital caters to them in SE QLD and it was "ask no questions" - was not happy at all about that arrangement!!!

 

As it happens, there's no such thing as an illegal alien in the US. See, the federal congress wrote those laws, but their constitution never authorized them to legislate on that matter, so it's actually the laws that are illegal, not the people.

 

Faulty premise, sorry. They do not benefit our economy, far from it. They do not pay taxes for they work under the table most of times and what ever they make they send to a relatives in Mexico. And the serious drain on economy they are, for they draw welfare one way or another.

Trust me, Illegal Aliens bad for America.

 

No, you can blame the drug companies for buying enough legislators to get laws passed to favor their profits.

 

So no blame for the legislators at all? They're just innocent bystanders with no volition, motives, or responsibility of their own, I guess, kind of like children.

 

NO.
My point was: in my opinion government should regulate drugs and drug companies, but the laws are for the companies and against the people because of the Bribes - oops, campaign donations - to lawmakers.
I blame Citizen's United allowing wholesale sale of our government, and congresspeople for sale.

 

Oh. Well, I blame representative democracy, because the whole thing's about as predictable as that water drowns and fire burns.

 

Drugs only got expensive after 2010?