Getting Healthcare Right

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  1. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Bull, my friend. When I emigrated into United States many a year ago, my Green Card said "Legal Alien". So it stands to reason, if there's a Legal Alien, there's also an Illegal Alien.

    Is all there's to it.
     
  2. Maximatic

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    There's actually a bit more to it than that. The US is a union of states, a government constituted by a document establishing certain power centers and delegating particular authority to them. The physical laws of the Universe don't prevent them from enacting any kind of legislation they can dream up to write, but the legal limits of the kind of laws they are authorized to make are spelled out in the document constituting their existence. When it comes to legislation they enact on matters not expressly delegated to them by the states(the states, not the people), we can either say that that legislation is illegal or that they are a totalitarian government. Which do you prefer?
     
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    squidward Well-Known Member

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    go ahead, help one of them. But of course we know, you want me to help them, and you too.
    Actually, you don't really give a rat's ass about them anyway. They are just your talking point, to help you get what you want.
     
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    squidward Well-Known Member

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    everybody is worth what they are willing to accept
     
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    squidward Well-Known Member

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    yeah, so you can take from everyone.
    Let your income get decreased by the same percentage that you want doctors to be cut.
    Then pay the same tax rate on your remaining income as them.
    Until then, you don't give a **** about anyone but yourself.
    Stop hiding behind your contrived care for the poor.
     
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    "feigned"
     
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    Yep,, I love our universal healthcare just as much as I love being a contrived self centred so and so. Since you get your rocks off throwing knives at people you know nothing about instead of debating the topic, let me tell you, I pay more tax and have paid more tax than the average Joe Blow, which quite frankly is none of your bloody business.
     
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    He appears to be a bit confused.
     
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  9. Maximatic

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    What do you love about it, since you pay all the taxes, then? Why can't you just help people you see in need? Is it the deferment fo responsibility, the alleviation of the feeling of responsibility. I honestly just don't ****ing get it.
     
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    What do you mean by 'just help people you see in need'? And how is this relevant to universal healthcare? How does supporting universal healthcare defer responsibility and the alleviation of the feeling of responsibility? Please explain?
     
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    And who pays for the sick from private insurance? That’s right, the healthy i.e. its exactly the same as a government run health care, the only difference being you pay according to your means.
     
  12. Maximatic

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    The difference is that "private" is voluntary, and "government" is forcible on pain of violence and killing. What's so hard to see about that?
     
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    So your advice is if you’ve got a lump on your stomach this size of a tennis ball, under private insurance you have the right to ignore it.

    Well done, your intellect is amazing.
     
  14. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You've lost me during second sentence. Sorry
     
  15. lizarddust

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    Violence and killing?
     
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    spiritgide Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No, it was a good attorney but a lousy judge. And you can't appeal "I can't decide", because it's not a decision- it's more of a coma state.

    So- as long as it works for you, none of the rest matters? I'm sorry, but your logic runs at true as a sewer main and winds up the same place. One can hardly reach any legitimate conclusion when he sorts the facts out to get the answer he wants to hear. Dow Corning was under bankruptcy protection and reorganization, and it took the company 9 years to recover enough to exit that situation. Obviously, you are one who sees corporations as the the great satan, which then permits you to justify all kinds of actions that would offend you deeply without that special labeling. How convenient for you- and how unfortunate.
     
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    Yes, governments are violent and they kill people. While we're at it; there's no Santa Clause, no Tooth Fairy, and probably no God.
     
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    It's also how people buy homes, cars, boats, food, entertainment and so on! I know I'm guilty of taking advantage of it, how about you ;)
     
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    He also didn't, and he clearly could have, cure all the sick either ;)
     
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    I noticed for a country of 40 million or so, your debt is marching along nicely! So what's Canada's plan to fix that, more tax's or less services?
     
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    So you want to subsidized by others ? You don't care who you take from as long as you get yours ?
     
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    you don't want to be responsible for others, you want some faceless "rich" to be responsible. You want to take from others to satisfy your needs.
    You're looking out for number one and want government to take from someone else for your benefit.
    Stop hiding behind the poor. You're not believable.
     
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    Yeah, yeah, yeah, ..........another high tax payer who just cares about the poor.
    Isn't the internet fun ? You can pretend 'til your heart's content on the internet.

    It is my business when you support taking from everyone else. I am part of everyone else.
     
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    And you know this just how? Considering that about 50% of births are Medicaid that may not even cover costs, it means you don't know a thing about health care.
     
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